PHOENIX UNDEAD THE MONTAUK PROJECT AND CAMP HERO TODAY Copyright � 1998 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc All rights reserved All text within this document not quoted from other sources is the sole property of John A. Quinn/Newshawk Inc. No reproduction without permission. Part 2 CORROBORATIVE INFORMATION AND TESTIMONY THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT, VALLEE, "DUDGEON", MARSHALL BARNES AND THE DEBUNKER DEBUNKED Jacques Vallee, a fairly well-known and "credible" UFO researcher, who I discovered several years ago has had substantial and verifiable links to intelligence/military agencies in the U.S. going back 30 or more years (in other words he was a high-level spook and disinfo agent who was recruited from France, and worked with J. Allen Hynek and other spook/scientists for Air Force Intelligence and similar groups; initially at the Batelle Institute near Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio), published a report in 1994 which purported to totally debunk the Philadelphia Experiment and show that it was a hoax. The problem is, Vallee's own article itself was complete and utter bullshit, utilizing as it's primary source one "Edward Dudgeon", some phony with absolutely no credibility who has been conclusively proved a liar--and thus by extension Vallee has been so proved as well. The person who busted these clowns is named Marshall Barnes, an independent researcher who in addition has heavily and thoroughly investigated the Phoenix Project from Philadelphia all the way through the Montauk Project, and has found SOLID evidence to support many of the major claims being made about Phoenix, as well as scientific data and so forth which prove that many of the claims are quite possible. Vallee and Bernhard Haisch, Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Scientific Exploration which published Vallee's article and has refused to disclaim or otherwise back off it, have become the target of an ongoing private investigation focusing on them having promoted research fraud. Proof which shows Jacques Vallee's article to be an outright fraud has been made public by Barnes, leaving no room for doubt that the world famous UFO researcher was an active participant in an official coverup effort. Barnes shows irrefutably that there was on the part of the Navy and other government agencies: 1.) a strong agenda to make a ship both radar and sight invisible; 2.) knowledge of the physics by which this can be done; and 3.) possession of the technology by which this physics could be applied in the field. � Apparently these facts are so disturbing to the "powers that be" that they have in desperation engaged or coerced two well known scientists into perpetrating a bizarre act of deliberate scientific debauchery; risking their names, reputations and those of any organizations they may belong to. The so-called Dudgeon reportedly told Vallee, "Your book Revelations was wrong about making the ship invisible to radar: the Germans hadn't deployed radar at the time..." Dudgeon is referring to the summer of 1943. Without any question whatsoever the German navy had radar on their ships before WWII. There is information posted on a website at http://www.cnd.net/ ~kais/ navy/ raiders.htm which provides hard factual data regarding the Nazi's development of radar. By scrolling down to the third and fourth paragraphs under the heading:The pocket battleship Admiral Scheer, one can find information on how these same radar systems were used to devastating and deadly effect against Allied ships and crew. The so-called Dudgeon's comments on this point, as on so many others, are utterly worthless drivel. As for the entire issue about Dudgeon's "credentials" and papers which supposedly support his contention that he was even in the Navy at the Philadelphia Yard during this time--the "papers" he showed Vallee are completely insignificant and prove nothing of the sort. In fact not even Vallee has said anything about seeing any hard documentation/ confirmation of these critical elements of Dudgeon's story, and Dudgeon, as we see, is untrustworthy at best. Vallee doesn't even describe what kind of "identification" papers he saw. Who really knows if this so-called Edward Dudgeon is even Edward Dudgeon! In light of the following evidence of his blatantly untruthful testimony, this issue of his real identity becomes especially significant. One of the main points which Dudgeon (or whoever) and Vallee make which they say gives the lie to claims about the Philadelphia Experiment has to do with the dates of the shakedown cruise for a number of vessels. Dudgeon claims that The Eldridge accompanied his ship, the DE 50, U.S.S. Engstrom and two other ships on shakedown together during the first week of July. Surprise! The Navy's own official records for the Eldridge show that the ship wasn't even launched until July 25, didn't receive its commissioned crew until August 27 and then didn't go on its shakedown cruise until September. It was within the period of time between July 25 and August 27 that a skeleton crew could and would have been used in the clandestine experiments, as they would not be listed as the official commissioned crew and thus any tracing of them would be as pretty much impossible. Barnes says, "I assure you that these dates are accurate because they reflect the same information that I got from three different published official Navy ship record sources, as well as other books that have quoted the same records." At this point Vallee's article and the "testimony" which make up the bulk of it are shown clearly and unargueably to be the complete garbage that they truly are. Why then, and at whose direction, have editor Bernard Haisch and his Journal of Scientific Exploration refused to issue a disclaimer regarding this work of outrageous fraud and in fact continue to publish it on their website and doubtless elsewhere also? Very good questions but most likely also rhetorical ones. Undoubtedly relevant is the fact that Vallee for one reason or another deemed it desirable his report "reviewed" and obviously censored or "cleared" by one "Vice-Admiral William D. Houser". Hmmm... Very interesting as well is the fact that apparently a false connection was made by Dudgeon between the "St. Elmo's Fire" phenomenon and the witness descriptions of the visual phenomenon observed during the Philadelphia Experiment; that is, that the phenomenon in fact does more than just impart to a ship a greenish, glowing aura due to the coronal discharge, but can also have the effect of rendering the ship relatively invisible to sight, and presumably to radar as well. However, this claim only came up in a summary of Vallee's "research" into Dudgeon's claims and on a TV interview of Dudgeon by Vallee, and is not mentioned in the article itself, which was reviewed by the Vice-Admiral. St. Elmo's Fire was mentioned by Dudgeon only as a disinformation ploy, to provide a false explanation for any bizarre conditions noted by a number of eyewitnesses regarding the condition of the USS Eldridge. No mention was made in the printed article to the effect that St. Elmo's Fire can also result in invisibility--something much more significant from a defense or "covert operations" point of view than some greenish glow, and which if true would indeed logically have a direct relation to the Philadelphia Experiment technology itself. If this were really true then there WOULD be a scientifically valid way to make a vessel or other object invisible--by merely replicating the effects of St. Elmo's Fire! Thus the Vice-Admiral would have advised Vallee to remove this material from the printed article, regardless of the fact that Dudgeon's yarn about St. Elmo's Fire is false and was only originally offered at all as way of explaining the other accounts which attest to the ship becoming invisible. A POSSIBLE PERSONAL LINK I have had a number of personal contacts with Preston Nichols, a few with Peter Moon, and have conversed with both of them of the phone many times; and with Al Bielek several times. Nichols did a "Reichian" (according to methods developed by Wilhelm Reich) energy reading on me during our very first personal meeting and he concluded that there were extremely strong indications of a personal involvement in the Montauk Project on my part. This reading was however somewhat cursory and incomplete, because at one point I became intensely emotional about something related to my childhood and my family, feelings which definitely seemed to be connected to the entire business. Although we were not able to pursue it at the time, I felt distinctly that, along with whatever else had been going on with me personally in relation to the Project, the entire matter had a sizable and negative though hidden effect on our entire family and was responsible for a certain amount of emotional turmoil, pain, and disruption. This is all a subjective impression--at this point in time I have no hard evidence to back that aspect of things up. Nichols felt that my skills in communications could have been utilized in dealings with ETs; he also picked up from my energy patterns that I had several implants, and that I had been used in time travel experimentation as well. Other definite indications of some kind of direct personal involvement in some aspects of the Montauk Project were discussed in my first report on the Project. Other strongly suggestive memories, impressions, vivid dreams and experiences of mine, most of which material is covered in Part 4 of my initial report Montauk Air Force Station--Active Or Not?, indicate a definite likelihood of some type of connection to or involvement with the Montauk Project on my part, very possibly beginning at a rather young age. My trip to eastern Long Island in the summer of 1998, which included a number of side trips to Montauk, showed a possible link between the underground facility at the WW 2 Navy submarine base on Montauk's Fort Pond Bay and some peculiar experiences of mine as a child, during the time my family began vacationing right up the road from this area in 1959 and 1960. This relates to an exceptionally vivid dream/nightmare, one I can remember to this day, from when I was 5-6 years old. Not the standard fare of goblins or monsters threatening to gobble one up: this dream presented, it would seem, an scenario more along the lines of what "Dr. Jonas", in the movie Conspiracy Theory, described as the focus of his "work" as a "research" scientist for the CIA in the field of mind control as part of the well-known MK-ULTRA program--which was terminal sensory deprivation. There is a stong factual link here to the ubiquitous and repugnant "dean of modern psychiatry" Ewen Cameron and his MK-ULTRA experimentation at McGill University and Allen Memorial Insitute in Montreal, Canada during the 1950s and 1960s. Cameron, who had made no secret of his slavering admiration for the monsters and butchers of Begen-Belsen and indeed for the entire Nazi movment in all aspects, rightly viewed his psychotic and brutal "work" for the CIA and other agencies as a continuation of the experiments carried out by the Nazis upon their millions of helpless human victims. Circumstantial evidence and a number of personal accounts indicate that similar operations were in fact also being conducted on Long Island, probably at Camp Hero, Fort Pond Bay Naval Base in Montauk, and at Brookhaven Labs during this time period, perhaps involving Ewen Cameron himself. The main image in this early childhood dream was of being naked, freezing cold, and huddled on the floor of a featureless, cement cube or "box" of some kind, perhaps 12-15 cubic feet; the atmosphere was chilly and very damp. My terror increased substantially when I observed that liquid of some kind was beginning to enter holes in this cube, and the implications was that at some point I would drown. Naturally I woke up screaming from that one. An interesting point is that my family did not own a TV and our trips to the movies were fairly infrequent. At that age and at that period of time I can't imagine where or how I could have "picked up" or otherwise appropriated such a terrifying image from any conceivable source. The memory of this dream experience as noted has stayed with me since that time, and now that I am aware of the Montauk Project and related operations on Long Island at the time I was growing up there I've wondered if perhaps this dream was a psychic bleed through of some horrific event actually experienced by me. Interesting then to notice on my recent trip to the old WW2 Navy submarine base at Fort Pond Bay in Montauk, a old concrete cube about 12-15 cubic feet in dimension right at the shore line, obviously some structure related to the submarine pens on the Bay here. This is less than a half mile from the hotel on Fort Pond, which is where my family began vacationing on eastern Long Island, when I was about 6 years old. Hmmm... OTHER CORROBORATIVE INFORMATION Michelle Guerin, who has uncovered within herself buried memories of some very traumatic and significant events at Camp Hero and nearby Ditch Plains, has provided the following information on a number of points concerning the Montauk Project and related issues (Michelle has a web site detailing some of her Montauk experiences at -- http://members.aol.com/nymush/ sands.html). "Preston Nichols states in his books that he worked for "BJM" (note: "BJM"="AIL"), a well known defense contractor on Long Island. While a pseudonym has been used for the company in order to protect himself from possible lawsuits, I have a friend that did indeed work with Preston at a well know defense contractor on Long Island. "I have an uncle that is very familiar with the area around Montauk, as he spent most of his summers there, from childhood through adulthood. Up until 3 years ago, he owned a home in Montauk. My uncle has some very unusual memories concerning something that happened at the camp when he was younger. At the time, his family summered at a campsite near Camp Hero. Due to an impending hurricane, the residents of the campsite were evacuated to the base. All of the children were housed in a separate building, on the second floor. During the night, he woke up and recalled seeing a face at the window, and was mesmerized by the eyes. He's never forgotten this. Remember, he was on the second floor! He only related this story to me after I told him of my own experiences at Montauk. "My cousin (his daughter) then told me of her memories of Montauk. Every summer when they arrived there, for about a two week period, she would experience an unusual "sensation"... she would feel depressed, uneasy and lethargic for no apparent reason. Then she said it was as if she would get used to the sensation, and it no longer bothered her. She had never mentioned this to her family until I started to ask about Montauk. "I myself have been to Montauk and can attest to the strange "vibes" there. My psychic antennae seems to be most affected in an area near the location of the Sage radar dish, along a stretch of an isolated road known as Old Montauk Hwy. We had been able to verify (through the use of an EMF detector), anomalous EM readings in that location." --� Michelle Guerin I got a very noteworthy email from a woman in the New York area regarding the fateful day of August 12, 1983, when the major phase of the Montauk Project "crashed and burned". Judith wrote to me as follows. "I live in the tri-state area so your article interested me. I did some research at the New York Public Library a couple of months ago on the Philadelphia Experiment--supposedly the ship which disappeared- reappeared in Montauk August 1983--I was living in Manhattan at the time and I clearly remember a late night news broadcast about this ship reappearing and the reporter saying the base was totally closed, nobody could get in to check it out. But, I could not find anything in the local newspapers about it from 1983. What I DID find was that the entire midtown area in Manhattan lost ALL electrical power at about the time the ship was supposed to have shown up. The subways were virtually stopped. The outage was so severe as to have crippled midtown for an entire three-four days before it could be restored. I seem to remember this too back in 1983. There is no mention in the papers about WHY this occurred." --Judith Several other individuals from the New York/Long Island area with whom I have spoken also recall seeing a spot on local news about the military vessel which appeared mysteriously off Montauk Point for at least a few days that August. The following, written by Stephanie Chesler, was posted by Ellie Crystal on her web site. "I read with great interest your material about Montauk in the Universal Updates. I grew up in a small town called Port Jefferson on Long Island's north shore, about half way to Montauk from the city. My father worked with a division of Grumman Aerospace on top secret projects that involved the Navy, and I remember our neighbors often told my mother that the FBI had come around the neighborhood to "check" out my father's activities in the community. I remember him speaking about rumors of an underground base at Montauk. "My neighbor across the street was a scientist of some sort that worked with government. He never revealed to me exactly what he did, but he had some very complicated electronic apparatus in his garage that I was fascinated with. I babysat his children twice a week, and I would always take a peek in the garage after I had put them to bed. When I questioned him about the purpose of the instruments, he blew me off with a wrong answer. I knew enough that he was lying, as I was keenly interested in science at that time, having won first place in the High School Suffolk County Science Fair two years in a row. "The other strange thing was that they were definitely under some kind of guard or surveillance that my neighbor was completely aware of. There were frequent visits by unmarked cars parked in front of their house, always with two men in the front seat. Very weird for a quiet suburban neighborhood!! My father was told it was government job related, not to worry about it. When I was in my sophomore year at school (1976-77), my neighbor hurriedly asked me to watch his children for a weekend, while he and his wife looked for a house to relocate in Montauk. They told me they had bought a pharmacy there. The move was completed in less than two weeks. Strange though, when I drove to Montauk to return a book I had borrowed the family had vanished! There was only one pharmacy in Montauk at that time, and they had never heard of my neighbor. I never saw them again. "Another interesting thing was that I frequently did see a greenish glow in the sky, always on cold winter nights in the direction of Montauk. I wouldn't say it was a beam, but it was definitely localized in certain areas of the sky. When I told my science teachers that I had seen this occur, they told me I was imagining it, as we were too far south to observe an aurora borealis type of sky. But I know my family and I saw it! "Here is the strangest story of all. My family frequently went to Wildwood State Park just east of Shoreham. I remember always passing a small sign on a metal fence gate off what was then a two lane road that read TESLA Research Station. On this particular day my family decided to take a walk on the beach, which is composed of pebbles, not sand. I lagged behind at quite a distance, picking up beautiful pebbles and looking for frosted sea glass. All of a sudden I froze as I sensed a "wall" of energy enveloping me. It had moved rapidly from off the Long Island Sound, heading from the north to south. I didn't like it at all, and somehow I felt trapped. I seemed to move in slow motion, as if thick honey had been poured over me. When I screamed to my family for help, my screams seemed to bounce back at me as if deflected by some invisible wall. They never even looked at me. But I was struggling with all my might to break free of this energy. I was very cold and sobbing and my heart was pounding very quickly. I ran toward my family, with a huge effort, and I felt a resistance, sort of like traveling through a wall of very thick jello, then a pop as I began to more easily run like a devil was after me. My father looked up in a panic when he saw my state, and told me they hadn't seen me at all for the last few minutes. After all was said and done, my "adventure" was chalked up to an overactive imagination. I was told I read too much and I was actually teased quite a bit about this incident. "Well, there are some of my wild stories!! I never did figure out what happened to me on the beach at Wildwood, but my family can tell you I never went to that section of the beach again!" --� Stephanie Chesler Christine Oliva wrote to me with some very intriguing recollections of her childhood on Long Island with a father deeply involved in covert government /military projects and a knowledge of the underground at Montauk, as well as her own experiences working at numerous defense contractors on Long Island herself. "I was wondering if you are aware that there are underground tunnels leading from AIL to who knows where, I suspect that the tunnels lead to Montauk and also Brookhaven Labs. "I grew up on Long Island, my father was involved with black projects for many years during his career as a electronic engineer, mathematician, designer and inventor. He was definitely involved with the manufacturing of microchips and helped to design one so that it may go into some of the spaceships that we sent to outer space. All of the work he did for our government was top security cleared, his history follows from WW ll with Nazi technology. "Not to get off the subject of AIL, I worked there among other places and my work was also security cleared although not as high a clearance as my father. AIL is priority on my mind because of the extensive interrogation I got there from the persons doing the security clearances, these people definitely were not your average guy on the street. They looked mean, and acted very cold, I felt as if I were being inspected under a microscope. "This was the first time I felt like this while being cleared for security. I will never forget it. They asked the most ridiculous questions, and expected me to remember my grandparents histories, and asked me also if I could remember more than that regarding my family's history. "After I passed their interrogations, (seemed like hours for me! and their staring at me was very uncomfortable), I had to go for drug and other medical examinations in order to satisfy their qualifications. These people were not playing around! "After a few months working at AIL, their were rumors that there were many stairways leading to secret doors that lead to underground tunnels and parts of the building you could not get to unless you knew how and where they were. It was as if there was another part of the building hidden away from everyone else. "One day I was approached by a fellow whom I did not know well, he started talking about these secret entrances, I now feel as if he was testing me out for some reason. I acted surprised at what he was telling me, because I was! I heard rumors before, but thought they were just that. He asked me if I believed what he was saying, and I sort of doubted him (I am the type of person who does not fall for rumours easily), and when he saw the doubt on my face, he asked me if I would like to see what he was talking about. I said to myself something was wrong here, who was this person?, why was he approaching me with this information?, and why didn't he care if he got caught?, the red flags were thrown up for me!, I followed my intuition that danger was near. I felt very uneasy and angered that he would suggest such a thing to me knowing very well how dangerous it was. I said to him no thank you, and didn't he realize the dangerous situation he would be putting the both of us in? He laughed and said "Oh come on, nothing is going to happen"!. I said again no thanks and walked angrily away. I know he was not lying! And I still cannot figure out why he chose me among all of the rest to tell me this, and to try to persuade me to go along with him. I can only thank God that I did not follow him out of curiosity. " So there is my story about AIL and the underground tunnels and secret doorways to who knows where. Again my gut feelings say that most of Long Island has these underground tunnels leading from military outposts, electronic manufacturing facilities, military airports, etc. I believe that Brookhaven labs is also intertwined underground with the rest. "I now know that because of working at the places I did, and the type of work I did, I was definitely controlled in some way, since childhood I might add, and suspect that ELF waves were used on me and who knows what else. My memory has been definitely affected. The time sequence is a mess for me remembering those years. In other words, I can remember important events, but not the sequence in which they occurred. Very frustrating to say the least. Everything is scrambled for me." A further message from Ms. Olivo revealed the following. "Ok, first of all I had no idea that Nichols worked at AIL too! Amazing!, who knows?, I probably brushed shoulders with him and didn't know it. Or at least my mind won't let me remember it! I am hoping that my father being old now, and probably retired, won't care anymore. I am of course not on speaking terms with him sad to say, because I know within my heart, he knows a mouthful and more! He definitely knows about alien technology. He said some very important things to me about it when I was very young, and now when I reflect back, alien technology was his forte. "My father did some really awful things to my deceased mother and me while I was growing up and later on. This included brainwashing, hypnosis, and God only knows what else he did in his laboratory in our family's basement home. I do believe that the phenomena that took place during those years was due to his meddling around down in the basement of our home with all kinds of equipment, radars, oscillators, generators, I know for a fact that the company he worked for, Loral--located in Vermont and then Long Island, loaned him all of that equipment, some of it was way to expensive for him to buy on his own, and why would he when the company gave him all of it. "He would go to his regular job daytime, and then come home to continue his job in the basement. This went on for thirty years, and the last time I saw the basement, he added computers that he built himself to do God knows what. Even though my father being as such, he is still my father, and I haven't come to the point yet in revealing his name to anyone. For some reason I still feel protective of him, but if there were someone I could really trust, I guess I would reveal his name as long as I was kept updated to what was found concerning him, and given the truth, and guaranteed that no harm would come to him. I wouldn't even mind someone asking him questions, but he is tight lipped, believe me. Now that all of this stuff has come out, he might not be." --� Christine Olivo THE SAGE STORY I think there is a good chance that most or all of the SAGE radar sites were deliberately chosen to coincide with geomagnetic hot spots, earth grid power points, or something along these lines, and that (most) SAGE sites have had a connection to mind control all along; in other words I consider it possible that the SAGE system had at least a twofold agenda going since its inception or soon after. Nearly all military installations have been constructed on earth grid power points; in particular those constructed in this century. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the other SAGE radar sites are used in Montauk-type operations as well. At a SAGE location in Germany it was observed that many of the people in the adjacent town seemed to be "under the influence" of EM/RF mind manipulating transmissions; San Francisco area researcher and author Ken Wells, Jr. informed me that there is a SAGE radar site close to San Francisco. (All SAGE radar dish sites were constructed with at least four levels of underground directly underneath the supporting tower structure itself.) When the Phoenix operation pulled in to Montauk Air Force Station, they weren't exactly strangers to the Air Force there, and in fact base personnel related to the new arrivals data they had amassed on how the SAGE transmissions caused some very definite effects on personnel at the base, which varied depending on the particular frequencies being transmitted by the SAGE dish. (One gets a good idea exactly what kinds of "effects" these were further ahead in this report, in the section entitled More Weird Tales Of Montauk AFS). THE AIR FORCE AND THE (MYSTERIOUS) MONTAUK BASE Important information about the Montauk base as well as some exceptionally intriguing anecdotes come my way from a former Air Force radar technician/engineer named Bob Tidwell. Bob was briefly stationed at Stewart AFB, an installation otherwise noteworthy for the fact that it has without doubt figured significantly somehow or other into the (lower) Hudson Valley UFO phenomenon. Many black NSA choppers seen at or near the sightings of the giant boomerang (and other craft) were traced to Stewart by investigators during the course of this years-long series of UFO sightings--unsurprisingly, long after Stewart's "official" closure. Tidwell has some pertinent technical information regarding SAGE and other radar systems. He also notes that it was highly unusual for a SAGE site to situated so close the shoreline--virtually all other sites he knows of are much further inland. He specifies a few other instances of incongruities and anomalies regarding the equipment used at Montauk AFS. Additionally, Tidwell's information shows how Stewart was used as a staging area for operations at the Montauk base, and probably as a paper trail cover for Montauk as well. The following material is from a number of emails sent to me by Mr. Tidwell. "These special sites were referred to as SAGE sites, which is very misleading. SAGE (Semi-Automated Ground Environment) actually refers to the manner in which radar and communications information was automatically routed from all radar sites to a central Control & Command center. Most locations also had an associated "ground radio" site that would allow C&C to communicate with whatever intercept aircraft were currently in that particular area. This specialized system involved the setup of multiple communications paths and new protocols to insure that all of this information would reach C&C. This new technology would later evolve into today's World Wide Web. I don't know why theses sites themselves were referred to as SAGE, unless it was a ploy to draw attention away from the manner in which our radar sites communicated with C&C. "The Air Defense Command constructed most of these sites in the 1950s, but most were decommissioned in 1969 and 70, because of the new airborne radar aircraft, which overcame the curvature problem without having to use the lower frequencies. Some sites that were in sensitive areas remained open as late as 1980. STRANGE GOINGS ON "I can positively say that this site (Montauk Air Force Station) was in operation, in some manner, as late as 1972. This was verified to me by a personal friend a few years ago. He was serving submarine duty in the area, and was leaving for extended sea duty within a few days. He and several shipmates were on shore leave on Long Island, and were looking for a beach area to have one last beer party before shipping out. One of the guys suggested the old Montauk Base, as it was deserted, and they could get drunk and spend the night on the beach without getting into trouble. "They were able to enter the base area ok, the main gate was open and in disrepair, so they started looking for a good place to party. When they came to the location of the radar site they discovered a shiny new security fence, and were immediately surrounded by armed security police. They were then escorted off base and told to NEVER COME BACK (emphasis added). "It has been suggested to me by several persons during my investigations that Stewart AFB was acting as a staging and transfer center for Montauk. Steward certainly had connections to the electronics and radar schools at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, Mississippi. I myself was given orders to the 1st Air Force at Stewart. When I questioned my orders, I was told that Stewart was indeed my correct destination, and to consider my orders secret, even though this was never officially stated on paper. I've been told that certain personnel were being brought into Montauk through Stewart, in order to eliminate a paper trail leading BACK TO MONTAUK (emphasis added)." This last comment is very interesting to me because I have heard the same kind of thing from other sources and this practice may in fact be continuing presently. In fact in 1996, while combining a visit to my family in East Hampton [Montauk is in E. H. Township] with my ongoing investigation into the project, I overheard at a supermarket some comments made by the two guys in front of me (one in particular was especially talkative--almost in a nervous fashion) to the checkout girl. This fellow was saying that he and his companion had just arrived in the area, and in fact had orders to report to Montauk! (obviously there is no overt military facility ON THE MAP anywhere in this area these days). His decidedly more taciturn buddy grunted in a discouraging way--like, "shut up dude," but blabbermouth kept on obliviously, to the effect that they had come in "through New Jersey" (as if to provide some paper trail cover) in order to be stationed at Montauk. After they left I inquired of the young lady about their comments, adding, "what branch of the military has an active installation at Montauk?" She replied animatedly, "yeah! That's just what I was wondering!" If I had to hazard a guess as to which branch of the military these guys were in, I would say Navy. I definitely didn't seem to get an "Air Force" vibe. Also as they were both pretty chunky I would think they were probably officers of one degree or another! Tidwell continues: "I remember the trip up there, and the trip back, but the few days that I was there are only a blurred memory. I remember showing my orders to the guard at the main gate, and being directed to a location that was away from everything else. There was a small one-story barracks-like building that had been converted into office space. "I went in and presented my orders. There were only three people in this building; a female secretary, a First Sergeant, and a Captain. I remember then being told to go outside and police the area (pick up cigarette butts) while they checked my orders. Looking back now, this memory seems very absurd, having a new person walking around, picking up trash in a dress blue uniform. "After what seemed like an hour, I was called back in and told to go into the Captain's office. He informed me that my orders were a mistake, and that I would be reassigned to another location. He had my new orders on his desk, already typed out, except for the new location. The nearest location would have been Buffalo, but the Captain simply asked me where I wanted to go. (This is unheard of in the military) In a daze I said "back to Alabama." He then took my orders out to the secretary, and returned a few minutes later with the Alabama location typed in. He never called or checked with anyone to ok this, and I never checked in with the base personnel office, which is standard practice. They seem pleased to get me out of the area. "One of the things that seemed to trouble them was that I had gotten married a few months earlier, and had brought my wife with me. I vaguely remember being there about one to two weeks, and had even rented a place to live. I also have vague memories of shopping on the base, although I don't remember anything else about the base. Also, why would I be there that long if I had gone in and was told that I wasn't supposed to be there. "So, I loaded up my car and drove back to Alabama. I spent the next year at the Dauphin Island radar site (I found out later that this was one of the most sought after assignments), until it closed. "We were again asked to fill out the dream sheets for reassignment. After the site closed, the personnel began leaving for their new assignments. After a while the base commander called me into his office and wanted to know why I was still there, and hadn't left yet. I informed him that I hadn't received my new orders yet. They started checking, and appeared to be experiencing some confusion. At one point I was asked if I had been getting my paychecks OK. "The next day I was called into the commander's office, and laying on his desk were my new orders, with the new assignment location blank. I was again asked "where do you want to go?" The nearest location that was still active was North Charleston S.C., so I requested that. He took the orders out to his secretary and returned a few minutes later with that location filled in. Back then I didn't question any of this strangeness, I just told myself that I was being extremely lucky. "I spent my remaining two years at North Charleston. While going through my out-processing physical, several doctors were very interested in my knees. They asked several times if I was having any trouble with them. This seemed strange to me, as I have never had any trouble with my knees in my life. I was them asked who had performed the reconstruction work on both of my knees, as they were amazed at how precise it had been done. I told them that they were mistaken, and that nothing had ever been done to my knees. This seemed to really trouble them. Later, when I got home, I examined my knees and discovered traces of faint surgery marks on both knees. The marks are still visible today. "After going back to civilian life, I occasionally would have a recurring dream. In this dream I was told that I would have to go back into the Air Force and work for an additional two years. I thought that this dream might have a connection with being on inactive duty status for two years before I would receive my permanent discharge, but the dreams continued on for about 20 years. They were very vivid, and were always connected in some way. I would be stationed at a strange radar site, and worked on equipment that I was not familiar with. The site was located on what appeared to be a section of a larger base, although I couldn't quite picture the base. It was also located near water. In the dreams I would do normal everyday things (besides work at the radar site), like shop in stores and ride around in my car. It was as if I were reliving another life in my dreams. "Then, sometime in the early 90s I noticed a book titled Montauk - Experiments in Time. The name drew my attention, so I picked up the book and started thumbing through it. My blood then seemed to turn into ice water, for here was the location that I had been dreaming about. All of the photos and illustrations had been in my dreams, even the ones that supposedly pertained to time travel. "I know that there wasn't enough time for me to have been stationed there, as I was only in New York for a few days, although several people that have helped me with this (author Marc Davenport and quantum physicist Dr. Fred Allen Wolf), insist that some form of time travel could have been involved.) "A few vague memories that have come back to me my time at Stewart are; being taken to a Holiday Inn(?), to a room on the second floor, and being strapped into a chair and drugged. There is also a memory of being put on an aircraft and taken to another location. This reminds me of your mention of psychotronic devices, maybe used for mind control. Another point that has surfaced in the last month concerns the time that I was stationed at Dauphin Island. I wrote an article for my newsletter about UFO radar reports, and used my knowledge of working on equipment at North Charleston. After completing the article, I realized that I didn't refer back to my experience at Dauphin Island. I then realized that I didn't remember exactly what it was that I had worked on there. I do remember everything else there, except what I was supposed to actually be working on, and probably would not have realized this had I not have decided to write the article. "As a quick note, during my investigation into sites and bases here in Alabama, I discovered that Maxwell AFB, at Montgomery, was the original NORAD Command & Control Center. I have several eye witnesses to the fact that Maxwell has several underground levels. My investigation into this goes as far as to even show what happened to the dirt that was removed. It is still being used for research and development projects, among other things, and one of my information sources stated that the basic research for the HAARP project was conducted at Maxwell. I haven't been able to confirm this, but thought that it might fit into your research." --� Bob Tidwell Tidwell recollected an incident which happened to a friend of his in the Air Force around 1980. This fellow had just reported to a base in Maine, and the next thing he knew he was waking up in Navy hospital in Boston. He was told that he had fallen and hit his head badly. He had no recollection of any such event or what happened in between that and waking up in the Navy hospital. As fortune would have it he was befriended in the hospital by a nurse, and when he was released he was given some time off from active duty to continue recuperating. The nurse invited him to spend a few days with her at her parents' house on Long Island. Major and continual feelings of deja vu washed over this fellow after he arrived on Long Island, coupled with some very strange feelings about things that he felt may have happened to him during the time he was supposedly "unconscious" after his "accident". As Tidwell put it-- "He then told me about having dreams of being stationed at an unusual site that he felt was located at Montauk Point. In his dreams he felt as if he were an officer, because everyone would salute him. He also said that the site was a joint Air Force-Navy project of some sort." This person became progressively more curious about what might be going on and subsequently became aware of the Montauk Project operation, which he was sure he had somehow been involved in. As Tidwell noted, the man believed, based on what he found out about the Montauk Project, that it was an operation involving both the Air Force and the Navy (as HAARP was originally). Not many people know this and I don't believe it was mentioned specifically in Nichols' books. Tidwell also relays how his friend has to have a yearly checkup as a requirement for his disability classification. Bob writes, "Every time he undergoes his physical, he is questioned as to his medical records. It seems that he has two identical files with his correct name and social security number on each file. The other file incorrectly identifies him as a Marine Corps Captain. (He was put into a Naval Hospital after his injury, not an Air Force Hospital)". NO RECORDS OF AIR FORCE RADAR PERSONNEL FROM MONTAUK! Bob Tidwell keeps fairly close contacts with other Air Force radar techs, and they are somewhat a specialized breed. He confided to me that although there is absolutely no doubt that Montauk AFS exists (or existed), that it was a radar station for the Air Force and that obviously it was staffed, neither he nor any of the numerous radar techs he has contact with know of or ever heard of anyone who was ever stationed at Montauk. Here's what Bob had to say. "Radar Techs tend to stay in touch with each other, even after all these years. I contacted some of them and requested the names of anyone that was stationed at Montauk AFS, and at a site that I'm looking into here in Alabama that may have been similar. What we discovered was that none of us has ever heard of anyone that was ever stationed at Montauk, before or after 1969. This is very odd, in that we are usually able to track down people from sites all over the world. There are major web sites devoted to us radar techs, but nobody can remember ever hearing of anyone that admits to being stationed at Montauk. We put out feelers everywhere and came up completely blank. The radar site was there, no question about that, but the people that were stationed there are like ghosts. The same is true for several other sites that I am looking into. "We did find out that when Montauk closed in 1969, and was reopened through TAC, that this was most unusual, and also suggests to us that the site was being used as a cover for something else. I did find out though that Montauk's military connections after 1969 were being made through Hancock Field in New York. Hopefully this can be of use to you." --� Bob Tidwell MORE WEIRD TALES OF MONTAUK AFS Information which strongly suggests that some most unusual things were going on at Montauk Air Force Station in the late 1950s and early 1960s comes from a fellow who's father was an Air Force Colonel and assistant base commander at Mitchell Air Force Base in central Long Island (he wishes to retain anonymity). Periodically, personnel from Montauk AFS would come to Mitchell for R&R. These fellows caused considerable consternation and distress to personnel at Mitchell due to the peculiar, bizarre, dissociative and generally loony behavior exhibited by just about all of them. Among other oddities, a number of the men became totally lost and disoriented, though they had not gone very far at all from the central base area. The group from Montauk was monitored closely and constantly by their commander. Something seemed seriously out of whack with the entire group and the Mitchell commander was asked by other Mitchell personnel to have the Montauk group leave before their R&R tour was over. This was in the very early 1960s, and the number of these kinds of occurrences prompted this colonel to conclude that something was indeed amiss at Montauk AFS, and to drive out to Montauk a number of times with his son in the interest of attempting to find out what was going on at the Camp Hero location. Even though the phase of the Phoenix Project--now known as the Montauk Project--had not yet "officially" gotten underway, let's not forget that Camp Hero has had a reputation of being a "psych" base pretty much throughout its entire existence, shortly after the land was legally stolen from its Montauk Indian owners around 1910. In other words it has always been a center for experimental, psychologically oriented or based (i.e. intelligence) government projects. Nichols indicated that there were some indications that even before the Montauk project commenced there were ties between Brookhaven Labs with it's considerable (ex)-Nazi scientist contingent, and the Montauk Point base on a major earth grid power point, with it's connections to the preexisting underground and a significant, well-established pro-German (Nazi/Aryan) community in the Montauk area. On top of this, there is some very strong evidence that Montauk (Camp Hero) was the site of some weirdness with psychedelic drugs in the mid-60s. As Peter Moon noted, there is almost certainly a link to Timothy Leary and Richard Albert of Harvard during this period of time at Montauk Air Force Station. A base building which had a number of rooms painted in full on psychedelic style circa 1967-68 were found and videotaped by Preston Nichols with a video crew at Montauk Air Force Station. A Mrs. Sneed of Sag Harbor visited Montauk AFS in 1980 and related to me her experience there. She was with a friend and on legitimate business for her husband, a retired military man. The trip was pursuant to certain consumer goods and other items being made available to veterans at a major discount and obtainable at the PX of any nearby military base. Mrs. Sneed had with her the letters/documents of authorization. Montauk AFS was the closest base to them so that's where they went. (Let's not forget however that Montauk Air Force Station was officially decommissioned and closed 11 years prior to this; of course the reality was that it was NOT closed and naturally many people in the area knew this obvious fact). Strangely (or not!), they were treated with extreme brusqueness, suspicion and rudeness, first by guards at the entrance to the base, then by other base personnel and officers called to the scene by the guards, all of whom attempted in every possible way to deter the women from entering the property, despite being shown the official authorization numerous times. Mrs. Sneed refused to back down, having made up her mind not to have undertaken the 50+ mile round trip for nothing; and seeing no good reason why the desired items should not be made available according to the terms of the authorizing document she presented. Finally the women were admitted and escorted directly to the PX with vehicles directly in front and in back of their car. They were not allowed to stop or slow down. Although the base itself did seem to be unusually quiet on the "surface", judging solely by the reception they'd received there was obviously something rather "important" and secretive going on there. Mrs. Sneed stated that there were air vent stacks protruding from the ground all over the place. She told me she felt very strongly at the time that substantial underground activity was taking place at the Montauk base and in fact commented on this to her friend. Mrs. Sneed stated that though she and her friend couldn't possibly be any threat in any imaginable way to anything (legitimate at least) that was going on there, they had people standing right next to them when they went into the PX, and were escorted right back to their cars and right off the base. According to Mrs. Sneed, everyone they encountered was acting very strangely, downright creepy... END PART 2 Copyright � 1998 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. 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