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Subject: Dorothy Kilgallen and JFK
Date: 1999/08/25
Author: David Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The point to be remembered in any assessment of her evolving skepticism is
that Dorothy [Kilgallen] was open-minded, accessible, and fearless.  In this
regard, she was almost unique among heavyweight, establishment journalists
in the United States.  What she was publishing has been made tepid by time,
but doubting the official version then verged on apostasy.

The mindset of her colleague and friend Bob Considine was far more typical.
By March 6, only four months after the assassination and a half-year before
the release of the Warren Report, he denigrated the European press for
"still clutching to the long discredited notion that there was a dark
conspiracy involving JFK's death."  He had apparently learned at some point
that Jack Ruby had had the opportunity to shoot Oswald on the day before he
actually did the crime.  Using that datum as a kind of sealing wax, he
closed himself hermetically to any and all evidence that challenged the
lone-assassin theory.
----
Of the handful of reporters who had the commitment, the clout, the
predisposition, and the intrepidity to go after what the government wanted
withheld, some were frightened.  Thayer Waldo of the Fort Worth
Star-Telegram originally furnished to Mark Lane information that Officer
Tippitt, Jack Ruby, and Bernard Weissman (one of the signers of the
notorious black-bordered advertisement that ran in a Dallas newspaper on the
day of Kennedy's fateful visit, charging that the President had abrogated
the Monroe Doctrine and "sold out to Moscow") had met in Ruby's Carousel
Club eight days before the assassination.  Waldo would not use the story
himself.  Waldo also discovered that the Dallas chief of police had been
surprised by the course finally chosen for the President's motorcade and was
unable to fathom why the procession was instructed to take this more
vulnerable route.  Nor did he use this story, though once again he made the
information available to Mark Lane.  Thayer Waldo was not minimizing the
significance of his information.  On the contrary, he told Lane that if he
published what he knew, "there would be real danger to him [Waldo]."
Dorothy eventually published what Waldo had uncovered but was afraid to run.
    --Lee Israel, KILGALLEN, A BIOGRAPHY OF DOROTHY KILGALLEN (New York:
Delacorte Press, 1979) pp. 372-373

Three days after her death, Bob and Jean Bach invited [Dorothy's dissolute
husband] Richard Kollmar to their home for dinner.  Bob asked the widower,
"Dick, what was all that stuff in the folder Dorothy carried around with her
about the assassination.?"

Richard replied, "Robert, I'm afraid that will have to go to the grave with
me."

Mark Lane also pursued.  Dorothy was dead on his return to New York.  They
had never had the opportunity to discuss the last Dallas trip, before which
she had told him that she expected "to learn something important" on her
visit to New Orleans.

Mark waited a respectable month before he queried Kollmar, though she was on
his mind every day.  When he finally telephoned Richard, he asked if he
might see the folder.  "I suspect she might have really found out
something," he said, "something which could affect all of us in the future."
Richard equivocated.  Mark insisted that he was talking about "the soul of
our country."

Richard said, "I'm going to destroy all that.  It's done enough damage
already."

Richard's post mortems were so riddled with lies, it is impossible to know
whether he ever really possessed the material or what he decided to do with
it.

The FBI evinced interest as late as 1975, four years after his death.  The
G-men sought out [Richard and Dorothy's son] Dickie, who told them that he
knew nothing about the disposition of his mother's papers.  He suggested
that his grandfather might have them.

Nothing of what Dorothy gathered, surmised, or wrote during her private
interview with Jack Ruby or on her Texas or New Orleans sojourns has ever
come to light.

A book called "Murder One" was published in 1967.  Her name was affixed to
the title.  The writer assigned to the book, Allan Ullman, worked from the
old newspaper clips that she had assembled, and merely edited her reportage.
He was under the impression that Dorothy had not put pen to paper (This was
a book she had long had in the works. ed.).  Her editor would not comment.
No one approached at Random House was aware that she intended a chapter
about Jack Ruby.

She was silent now.

-end-

---Lee Israel, KILGALLEN, A BIOGRAPHY OF DOROTHY KILGALLEN (1979) pp,
443-444.

All we need to know about the "soul of our country" is that none of her
fellow journalists rallied behind her when she began to exhibit the sort of
reporter's curiosity about our President's assassination that ought to be
second nature to any self-respecting newspaper person.  Unfortunately, she
was alone in the last two years of her life, and she was alone in death.

As time has passed, we are even less a nation of  Dorothy Kilgallens than we
are a nation of Richard Kollmars.  May God have mercy on us.

---------
DC Dave
Author of "America's Dreyfus Affair, the Case of the Death of Vincent
Foster"
http://thebird.org/host/dcdave
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From: Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Dorthy Kilgallen's Sucide Information Wanted


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>In a message dated 9/15/99 6:44:18 PM, you wrote:
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>>
>>I would appreciate any information that any one can forward me on Dorthy
>>Kilgallen's alleged suicide, and any other information on her alleged
>>involvement with Marlyn Monroe, Jack Ruby, etc. It is also alleged that
she
>>was going to break some real news the next day after she committed
suicide,
>>does anyone know what the news way.
>>
>>Thank,
>>Fred
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