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Some Good answers here...between the lines..
http://www.vegan.swinternet.co.uk/Articles/Conspiracies/arizona.html
I found this rather interesting. It seemed to fit in a lot of places.
Peter
David Icke, Arizona Wilder
and The Biggest Secret
by Ivan Fraser
The following is a short summary of a minor investigation into aspects of
David Icke's latest book and his star witness Arizona Wilder. The latter
claims to have been a mind controlled slave who performed Satanic rituals
for the Illuminati at which she witnessed many famous people including the
Queen Mother, shapeshift physically from a human to a lizard and consume
sacrificial victims. She claims that since her programming broke down she
has been able to reveal this information to the wider public.
My own role in the Biggest Secret saga was that I was asked by David to help
him check spelling and offer any further information to his initial draft of
the book. It was following my input that David was introduced to Arizona and
heard her revelations, which subsequently became a focal point within the
book and used as 'evidence' to support various themes outlined therein.
Having discussed my concerns with David's wife and having sent David e-mails
outlining my concerns over errors in his book and a feeling I have that he
has been set up with misinformation and been the target of psychic
manipulation, over a period from before publication to very recently
(September 1999), and as yet having absolutely no feedback from David about
any of the major concerns, I decided to publish my findings at the David
Icke website forum. Consequently, I was banned from attending that forum by
David Icke.
I wish it to be known that I bear David Icke no malice over this affair and
the reason for publishing this information is to seek clarification and also
offer information of which most may not be aware. My fears may be unfounded,
but I feel that after reading this,they are justified. And if my fears have
solid foundation, these issues need urgent clarification, both for the sake
of David Icke and his readers.
My suspicions about Arizona Wilder (AW) first manifested the first time I
heard of her.Something in me said, 'something isn't right here'. A familiar
feeling which usually turns out to be trustworthy, as anyone who has read
Lifting The Veil knows.
She was not mentioned at all in the draft copy of The Biggest Secret (TBS)
which I had read. David had not met her yet. And it wasn't until the book
was released and people started ringing me with questions like, 'is it true
about the reptiles', and 'is this stuff about the royal family true'. At
which time I replied that I thought it was, based on the fact that the
version I had read stated only the theory of the reptilians and that certain
of the Royals were involved in Satanic rituals.
Soon I heard about Arizona Wilder. I reviewed the book again, this time the
printed version, and asked Linda Icke (the British manager of Bridge of
Love) to send a copy of the video from which AW's testimony was taken. I was
by this time very dubious about AW's statements. Her statements had already
overshadowed those of Christine Fitzgerald, Princess Diana's healer and
confidante, which were prominent in the version I read and which were not so
sensational.
David stated that he saw his encounter with AW as an amazing synchronicity
which endorsed his work in his latest book. How could she have known all of
this stuff which tallied so exactly with TBS? Well, I believe I am not as
na�ve as David, and I know exactly how she could have known. He was passing
copies of the book via post to me and others for editing. It was on
computer. Both are simple to access by Intelligence people.We had also
spoken over the phone about the reptilian issue. In fact I am shocked that
David does not see this as a possibility himself.
This brings I another character who is pivotal to the entire Biggest Secret
thesis. It was a contact of David's named Brian Desborough who introduced
Arizona to David. Brian is mentioned as a source for a great deal of
information in the book, having supplied most of the material upon which
David based his idea that Martians came to Earth and founded the Aryan race
which the reptilians used as a vehicle to overtake the planet. Brian is also
the source of much of the information David had compiled on the Babylonian
world, its myths and how they fed into the sinister secret societies.
It was Brian Desborough, a scientist and researcher who had worked for
several aerospace companies, who was also looking at the draft copy of The
Biggest Secret at the same time as myself; i.e. before David met Arizona
Wilder. Therefore the fact that Brian Desborough may be responsible for
fundamentally leading the direction of David's research, if not planting
much of the basis of the book in David's mind, is obvious. But then to be
the same person responsible for giving him a so-called eye-witness to
testify to the verity of that information is highly suspicious. Brian also
writes articles on mind control and seems very knowledgeable on the subject.
Is it possible that he could be directly involved in some way that we are
not being told about? Cathy O'Brien testifies to having been taken to
military aerospace locations and NASA bases for trauma-based programming
(see Mind Control Out of Control).
David met AW and interviewed her for about 2 hours. Some of the questions
were quite leading, but her testimony revealed an awful lot if you know what
you are looking for.
She did indeed endorse a great deal of David's own theses; that is other
people's theses (again including many of Desborough's) which David has
agreed with. So closely, in fact, you would almost think she had already
read the book - or had been given the information beforehand! Or,
considering that she claims to be an ex-mind controlled slave, could it be
she was pre-programmed? Testimony from Mark Philips and Cathy O'Brien as to
how arduous it is to deprogram a CIA slave makes me very suspicious that AW
could be considered reliable. She claims that since her programmer died, the
programming broke down. I don't believe this can be accepted as such, and
external experts would have to be brought in to convince me that if she was
controlled to the highest level, that she could be so deprogrammed now as to
be considered reliable.
And don't forget how much influence her testimony had to the final version
of David's book. It was her and only her who provided all the information
about physically shapeshifting royalty, Pindar, the Belgian blood rituals
which were allegedly attended by everyone from Laurence Gardner (!!??) to
the Queen Mother!
Before I watched the video I dowsed the box with a pendulum and asked
questions. I don't usually use dowsing, but considered it may be useful to
evaluate this case from as many angles as I could because if I was correct
in my gut feeling then I had stumbled upon some very significant
realisations. The basic questions were:
Was she going to be telling me the truth? Yes. Wow! I hadn't expected that.
Was she also going to be telling lies? Yes. Ah!
As I thought she was a Multiple Personality, I assumed that she had been set
up. So I asked, 'Is she going to deliberately misinform David?' Yes. This
made me curious because I thought she would be doing it from programming.
I always like to ask questions I know the answers of now and then to check
whether I am interpreting the pendulum correctly.
So I asked a question I was sure of the answer to: 'Is she a programmed
multiple?' No.
That was absolutely the last thing I expected. I couldn't see how she could
be lying to deliberately misinform and not been a set-up multiple stooge.
'Then she isn't a multiple?' Yes.
'So has she ever been programmed as a multiple?' No.
'She is going to lie deliberately in full awareness?' Yes.
Now that was only an initial test and I don't put too much store in my
abilities as a dowser. But I tell you my line of enquiry so that you know.
So I watched the video in order to get the full picture.
As I said, her testimony tallied so well with David's that I can see how he
was so impressed. He has always stated that he works on cross-referencing
testimonies and 'synchronicities' as proof. Well, this time I think the
Intelligence people took advantage of that one!
More revealing, however, about AW's 'evidence' was that she demonised the
ancient archetypes and occult images throughout. Osiris, Isis, Druids, even
Harvest Festival. My own research tells me that there is a very positive
side to these things. In fact these things are exactly what the Bible was
written to obscure. AW's testimony was overtly Judeo-Christian in its level
of gross and blanket demonisation of the occult. Something which I had
warned David about doing when I read his draft. Something which he promised
to amend for the final version.
But of course, that was before he met AW. And as a consequence of her
testimony, it seems, David decided not to balance out his demonisation, but
instead increased it. If I was going to set David up to make that mistake,
that's exactly how I would have done it!
Then came some obvious bloopers. Having claimed to have been a multiple, she
also states she forgets certain names of people. Multiples have photographic
memory and perfect recall (see Cathy O'Brien's testimonies). This memory
lapse does not happen in recovered multiples.
Her facts were either regularly wrong, or so full of spin that she was
hardly credible. Other information is impossible for anyone to verify,
conveniently.
I checked with 2 occultists about her description of the demon raising
ritual and both stated she had it wrong. Strange for a top level Satanist!
Then she targeted Sitchin and Gardner and said they take part in blood
rituals with the Royals where shapeshifting happens. Considering Gardner's
books are revealing profound insights into the ancient knowledge, I am not
surprised they wanted him demonised. I personally do not believe this
testimony. I do however, think that Sitchin has been less than honest in his
research, but again, the statement that he takes part in murderous rituals
is more than I will accept without some pretty firm proof. But proof is
offered nowhere in relation to AW's testimony.
She states the royal lizards change back to lizards when asleep. Considering
how many of them were educated in schools where they also lived amongst
hundreds of others in dorms, and how many of them were in the armed forces,
you would think someone would have noticed this little thing!
She states that the royal lizards can't stay in human form at the scent of
blood and transform and go crazy, ripping into their victims. And in all
those years nobody has ever noticed this when they have cut themselves, been
around blood, menstruating women etc. Considering they are so public, there
is no way they have never been in the vicinity of blood. No signs there
though either.
I thought, 'this is just too ridiculous for words. David how the hell are
you allowing this nonsense to influence you?'
She regularly inverts important ideas. The ancient Egyptians were anointed
with the fat of the dragon - the sacred crocodile. AW states that the royal
lizards anoint themselves with the fat of humans. Head lizard is Pindar. How
similar is Pindar to ben Pandir, the Talmudic name for Jesus? Reversal at a
deep archetypal and psychological level? I think so. And there are more
examples too numerous to go into. I think you get the point.
Then strange things started happening as I watched the video. I kept getting
psychic impressions of other people overlaid on her face. The first, Ingrid
Pitt, whom I associate with Countess Bathory as she played her in the film
Countess Dracula. Bathory is reputed to have been kept young by bathing in
the blood of virgins.
Then, of all people, Jimmy Carter. I immediately recall David's testimony
in .And The Truth Shall Set You Free, where he describes being possessed by
Carter's energy from which he needed healing later. Was that a hint that
David had been possessed again?
Then Sigourney Weaver. I had been informed by a seer once that she is a
predator vehicle, like many others in the Hollywood scene. That is, she is
possessed by the reptoid/Luciferic consciousness. I cannot claim to know
that to be true, but it did seem to fit very neatly with the scenario I was
experiencing.
Then a face I couldn't put a name to at first. I didn't know where I had
seen her. Then later I realised, it was the face of the head alien reptile
in the television series V, called Diana. A reptile in human skin who was
conning the world to believe that the reptile aliens were on their side.
Was my higher self telling me something here or what?! Was AW a predator
vehicle too, and not a multiple at all, like the dowsing suggested?
Again, I wanted more proof.
As I had been a nurse for nine years, I am quite aware of body language and
communication. What I was seeing with AW was someone who was far too
inexpressive with her hands and expressions. She seemed to be deliberately
avoiding any kind of body language in case she gave the game away.
I also know a genuine multiple who HAS performed satanic ritual called Patti
and whom I had introduced David to years ago, setting him off on the track
of this whole Satanic thing. He refers to her in his books I Am Me, I Am
Free and The Biggest Secret as "a contact from Darlington". I know this
woman well and am accustomed to her body language and how she flips between
personalities and how she displays quite notable body language if you know
what you are looking for. I also have interviewed her priest (an exorcist)
and her ex-Harley Street therapist and discussed this subject at length. And
I have spoken to Cathy O'Brien and Mark Philips about this, albeit briefly.
To me, AW was not displaying what I expected in terms of body language.
Everything I saw told me she was hiding something.
So I contacted the aforementioned expert; a professional therapist,
specialising in multiples and victims of abuse, including those from
government level paedophile circles. I had introduced her to David a couple
of years ago and he mentions her in TBS. She looked at the video and agreed
with my analysis. AW was not a multiple, nor seems to have ever been one.
Her body language did not reveal this and suggested that she was
deliberately lying and trying to keep from revealing this. She also has
grave concerns about David, his health, his reptilian thesis, and that he
may be under a great deal of pressure and psychic attack from those trying
to pervert his work. She agreed that what I suspected was the more likely
case - AW is a deliberate set up and her testimony is absolutely not to be
trusted.
I also emailed Cathy O'Brien and Mark Philips for a comment from them, but
got no response. I later heard from another contact that they were avoiding
speaking out about David's latest book.
I later got calls from some very concerned people telling me that AW tripped
their inner warning bells so much that they couldn't accept her testimony
and for that reason were very dubious about the book.
Others contacted me to say they were seeing negative energies around David.
If AW is a Satanist and has the kind of power she claims - and she would
have to be one of the world's most powerful magicians to work for the global
elite in their highest rituals - then David is in extreme danger of being
infected by her demonic magic if he spends any time with her. If I am wrong,
and she is a multiple, but has not recovered, she may be working on David
without either his or her knowledge.
She also claims to be part of a church involved in satanic ritual. But she
also claims to be out of it. But she also knows enough to warn people about
forthcoming rituals. Is she in, or is she out? Who can tell?
How is she still around considering what she is revealing?
How did they let her programming slip?
How come she was performing rituals with the likes of Tony Blair (that means
it must be very recent) at a time when her programming was coming apart? I
have seen the chaos Patti goes through as she has been regaining coherence
over the years. And this is the woman we are expected was performing the
highest level rituals in the world? Give me a break!
So I phoned Linda Icke. I told her of my concerns. As well as my concerns
over David's historical inaccuracies, lack of occult understanding, and
flaws in his reptilian thesis. I said I was concerned that he had stated on
radio that he was unusually drained of energy and had been ill for a while.
She agreed I may be right and said that David has to face his own mistakes
and defend himself in his own way.
Amazingly, when I told her what had transpired over the video and what I had
looked into, she told me that David doesn't actually trust AW!!!! 'He's the
first to say "you can't trust her,"' she said!!!
So why is he selling a 2-hour interview with the woman?!
Why is he accepting her testimony at all?
Why has he refashioned so much of his work around her claims?
If it hadn't been for her, the text would be far less sensational, less
risible and have a far more balanced analysis of the occult.
This single woman has so overshadowed the real information in TBS that I no
longer am able to trust a lot of it simply on David's say so. I no longer
trust David's previously excellent antenna for getting to the truth.
Has Wilder also done something to David to lower his guard and turn him
around? He certainly does not seem to me to be the same man he was. And that
is what I am hearing time and time again from other people too.
I then contacted two people whom I know and trust who I consider to be as
knowledgeable about the psychic aspects as I believe anybody could be. They
both said the video was total nonsense. One (a well known author and Remote
Viewing and mind control expert) agreed with my analysis 100%, that she was
part of an Intelligence set up.
I showed Patti. She called the video, 'A piece of shit.' But granted, she
may not be considered the ideal judge.
I had reports of people hosting David's lectures who were so disturbed by
the incredibility of the video that they stated that if it were not for the
fact that it was David supporting it, they would never have sold it.
Then consider the Illuminati ritual post on the website, which I refer to in
my chapter The Predators (Truth Campaign magazine 14). AW and David warn
people about key dates and asked them to send love and light to the
reptiles. As I pointed out in the article, this only feeds the problem as
they are feeding an illusion - a psychotronic virus. Moreover, on one of the
dates mentioned, I attended, but did not partake in, a mass channelling
meditation, which was actually a guided meditation which opened the
participating crowd up to predator possession.
I feel compelled to see this as further confirmation that the entire AW
scenario is part of a wider conspiracy to jointly misinform, psychically
attack and control the audience!
Who is running David Icke and why? The results of following the book, and
his advice certainly seem sinister.
Then we had the solar eclipse, another blood ritual date according to AW.
David went to the Great Pyramid in Egypt on that date for the eclipse and
made all kinds of superficial comments about what seemed to be going on
there. He said people were prevented from going in, that the attendees may
be using underground tunnels to get in to do their blood rituals etc. No
proof. And everything was adequately explained by Amargi Hiller, who works
closely investigating the Giza site, in a message which was posted on David'
s Forum.
But what did David do?
On this very powerful day, he had people all over the world sending thought
energy based upon the most horrific images of blood-spattered tombs and
child sacrifice, DIRECTED AT PERHAPS THE MOST POWERFUL ENERGY POINT IN THE
WORLD! Did they really need to do a blood ritual with that kind of energy
focussed on it? Is this another way that David has been set up to actually
do the very job he is trying to expose?
I refer you to my chapter on the predators to see how that may fit into the
agenda.
I ask you to consider this. Ask you self who benefits from you buying into
AW's story? Then consider what David says himself: JUST A COINCIDENCE,
NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!
It's entirely up to you. I am just giving this from my viewpoint.
I may be wrong. If I am, I apologise unreservedly for casting aspersions on
those who may be genuine. But I think there are enough doubts to warrant
further explanation from someone at Bridge of Love. Because if Wilder's and
Desborough's claims in TBS are essentially true, then it needs to be acted
upon as a matter of urgency. But the evidence needs to be as accurate and
enforceable as possible. At present I don't believe that a large amount of
the so-called 'evidence' is any more than highly speculative, inaccurate and
suspicious.
Does anybody have any more information to add to this?
Do David or Brian Desborough have any information to give us to show us we
can trust AW? Is there anything David could tell us about Brian Desborough's
background to allay any doubts we may have about his integrity, considering
his massive influence in the content and direction of The Biggest Secret?
David has an excellent track record of bringing hard to get information into
the wider public arena. He has worked extremely hard and endured a great
deal of ridicule for courageously speaking out and standing up for what he
believes in. It would be The Biggest Shame, if his efforts and work were to
be overtaken and used by the very forces he seeks to expose.
Ivan Fraser 01.10.99
The Truth Campaign magazine issue 14 contains an extensive article - The
Predators - on the deep occult forces which shape our reality. It throws new
light on the 'reptile' theory in David Icke's The Biggest Secret and
explores further the possibility of an Illuminati set-up which is targeting
the New Age, healing and awakening community of researchers and open-minded
people, through aspects of David Icke's work.
We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
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