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From: James Daugherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Statist Memetic Infections
Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 9:20 PM
>Well, James, you simply keep proving that we are working out
>of totally different paradigms of reality,
James Responds: All paradigms of reality are theories. All are probably
false in many respects as they, by definition, run far beyond what is
rigorously testable by the scientific method. The consensus paradigm is
provided by the State and for the State. It is full of fantasy that
supports the State. Even though you claim to be a libertarian you seem to
accept much of the consensus reality of the State. Did I detect an
inordinate belief in the "British" tradition of "liberty"? Much of that
tradition is nonsense, though quite sophisticated nonsense to support the
British State, the British Monarch, and British Imperialism.
>or, to put it more bluntly, that
I'm working from reality and you're working from fantasy. I make a whole
series of substantive criticisms of the way that you go about your analysis
of the world, and, instead of focusing on any of those points or responding
to any of those points, you say I'm "lying about you" because you really
didn't mean that it was a bad thing that Reagan and the Pope "conspired" to
liberate Poland. [Then why did you bring it up as a "conspiracy" James?
>Isn't a "conspiracy" a bad thing in your world?]
James Responds: You will never catch me saying conspiracy is necessarily a
"bad" thing...it is constant and everywhere and relative. The Pope and
Reagan's plan was good for US Imperialism, bad for Soviet Imperialism,
problematical for British Imperialism, good for the Germans etc. Why do you
project simple mindedness? Never heard of the subjective theory of value?
A praxeological principle that applies to human action including conspiracy.
It may be possible to define an objective "good" and "bad", but certainly
the validity of conspiracy theory does not rest upon such an accomplishment.
>You also contend that you
have NEVER stated that the Queen is head of the International Drug Cartel,
although you persistently and always maintain equally absurd things about
>the royal family [such as their desire AND ABILITY to rule the world].
James Responds: No desire for world rule? Now that is rich. The Royal
Family patronized the Rhodes/Milner Round Table Groups at the turn of the
Century for nothing? The Royal Family has seen themselves as world
conquerors, Caesars or Alexanders, for Centuries. Never said they had the
ability under current circumstances to rule the world. Quite the contrary I
have stated that they are one of several geopolitical power groups.
Compared to their prime prior to WWI when they were fairly close to ruling
the world, they are hard pressed, fighting against other power groups for
control of the American "dumb giant" super-power.
>The problem we're having, James, is that you can't seem to address any of
>my substantive points
James Responds: What substantive points?...one would think you would
mention again these VERY cogent points. Please state them concisely without
lying so I can deal with them. That should be a real challenge for you.
>, but pick at every small tangential point possible. I
tend to view that as either psychosis or, much more likely, blatantly and
consistently dishonest and a very deliberate attempt to draw attention away
from the substance of my responses to you and your fellow conspiracy
fanatics. You, on the other hand, state that I "consistently lie," although
the only "lies" you point to are fairly justifiable characterizations of
>what you say every day.
James Responds: I pick at your characterizations because they are
mischaracterizations. Your lies are all that makes them "work". Your
compulsive lying behavior is probably a subconscious defense of the Statist
memes that infect your mind.
>Doesn't seem like there is much middle ground, does there? You think I'm a
compulsive lier, and I think that you're a psychotic and/or a deliberate
deceiver [or, in the technical language that you may feel more at home
>with, "a confusion agent"].
James Responds: There are many paradigms of reality that people can hold in
the face of the same data. Not at all surprising that there is little
middle ground between folk within varying memetic fields. There should be a
wide gap between advocates of liberty and memetically manipulated "cells" of
the State. Check your premises!
James
>>Craig
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