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From: Ellen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SOURCE Deliberate Chinese embassy bombing by NATO
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 9:45 AM
Here's the BBC story from October 17 citing the London Observer about this
issue:
October 17, 1999 BBC World
Nato embassy attack
'not deliberate'
The bombing killed three people
UK Foreign Secretary Robin Cook has
refuted reports that Nato deliberately
bombed the Chinese embassy in
Yugoslavia during the Kosovo conflict.
The attack on 7 May, which
killed three Chinese journalists
and injured 20 diplomats, was
condemned by China at the
time as a "war crime".
Nato and the Allies have
always maintained the bombing was a
mistake.
But the Observer newspaper reports that
the embassy, in Belgrade, was taken off a
prohibited targets list after Nato
intelligence detected it sending army
signals to the Yugoslav forces.
It was suspected it was
acting as a rebroadcast
station for Yugoslav
President Slobodan
Milosevic's forces, after
alliance airstrikes destroyed his own
transmitters, the newspaper says.
But Mr Cook said there was "no truth in
this" on BBC One's Breakfast With Frost.
He said: "I know not a single shred of
evidence to support this rather wild story."
"It was a tragic mistake," he said, adding
that it was a "delusion" that the US had
been "sitting on the information but had not
shared it".
A Nato spokesman later
said: "We are denying
this story. The bombing
was a mistake caused
by human error, nothing
else."
However, an unnamed
Nato intelligence officer
who monitored Yugoslav
radio traffic from
Macedonia told the Observer: "Nato had
been hunting the radio transmitters in
Belgrade.
"When the president's residence was
bombed on 23 April, the signals
disappeared for 24 hours.
"When they came on the air again, we
discovered they came from the embassy
compound."
Mr Cook said after the
bombing in May that the
bomb which hit the Chinese
embassy had been aimed at
the nearby war-room of
"Arkan" - Zeljho Raznatovic, the leader of
the notorious Serb militia known as the
Tigers.
The report could cause diplomatic strain
as the UK prepares to host an historic
state visit by President Jiang Zemin of
China.
The visit, which begins officially on
Tuesday with a ceremonial welcome,
comes amid improving relations between
China and the UK since the handover of
Hong Kong in 1997.
'Serious issues'
Mr Cook remained upbeat about the visit,
and said "limited" progress had been
made recently with China over its human
rights record, following "intense dialogue".
He said there were still "serious issues"
that needed to be addressed, but "we did
secure the first visit to China by Mary
Robinson, the UN Commissioner for
Human Rights to China".
He said the real reason for the state visit
was because the Queen went to China in
the 1980s and President Jiang was paying
a return visit.
He will be the first Communist leader to
stay as a guest of the Queen at
Buckingham Palace.
At 10:12 PM 10/19/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Ellen, I couldn't get any more of a source response than this from vincent
>but in my local paper there was an article the day following that post,
ie,
>on Oct18, datelined London (AP) about a NATO denial of this story where the
>details were attributed to a British newspaper report and The Observer
>newspaper of London was cited as source of details. I could not find on AP
>website my paper's article of oct18 of about 7colum inches but if you
>want/need it I will type and send it titled "NATO again denies deliberately
>bombing embassy".
>
>From: vincent scotti eirene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: chinese embassy/the source
>Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 8:15 PM
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>from london
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>The Guardian Front page Story index
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> ps>>>> If the polls are correct that a majority of people get most of
> their news from television, most people are not well-enough
> informed to intelligently exercise their franchise
> in this democracy.
> Walter Cronkite, 1998
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ellen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 8:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Deliberate Chinese embassy bombing by NATO
>
>
>>What newspaper is this from?
>>
>>Ellen
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>>On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:57:28 David Crockett Williams wrote:
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>>>Subject: Nato bombed Chinese embassy deliberately.
>>>Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 8:20 AM
>>>
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>>>Nato bombed Chinese deliberately
>>>
>>>Nato hit embassy on purpose
>>>Kosovo: special report
>>>
>>>John Sweeney and Jens Holsoe in Copenhagen and Ed Vulliamy in Washington
>>>Sunday October 17, 1999
>>>
>>>Nato deliberately bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade during the war
>>>in Kosovo after discovering it was being used to transmit Yugoslav army
>>>communications.
>>>According to senior military and intelligence sources in Europe and the
>>>US the Chinese embassy was removed from a prohibited targets list after
>>>Nato electronic intelligence (Elint) detected it sending army signals to
>>>Milosevic's forces.
>>>
>>>The story is confirmed in detail by three other Nato officers - a flight
>>>controller operating in Naples, an intelligence officer monitoring
>>>Yugoslav radio traffic from Macedonia and a senior headquarters officer
>>>in Brussels. They all confirm that they knew in April that the Chinese
>>>embassy was acting as a 'rebro' [rebroadcast] station for the Yugoslav
>>>army (VJ) after alliance jets had successfully silenced Milosevic's own
>>>transmitters.
>>>
>>>The Chinese were also suspected of monitoring the cruise missile attacks
>>>on Belgrade, with a view to developing effective counter-measures
>>>against US missiles.
>>>
>>>The intelligence officer, who was based in Macedonia during the bombing,
>>>said: 'Nato had been hunting the radio transmitters in Belgrade. When
>>>the President's [Milosevic's] residence was bombed on 23 April, the
>>>signals disappeared for 24 hours. When they came on the air again, we
>>>discovered they came from the embassy compound.' The success of previous
>>>strikes had forced the VJ to use Milosevic's residence as a rebroadcast
>>>station. After that was knocked out, it was moved to the Chinese
>>>embassy. The air controller said: 'The Chinese embassy had an electronic
>>>profile, which Nato located and pinpointed.'
>>>
>>>The Observer investigation, carried out jointly with Politiken newspaper
>>>in Denmark, will cause embarrassment for Nato and for the British
>>>government. On Tuesday, the Queen and the Prime Minister will host a
>>>state visit by the President of China, Jiang Zemin. He is to stay at
>>>Buckingham Palace.
>>>
>>>Jiang Zemin is still said to be outraged at the 7 May attack, which came
>>>close to splitting the alliance.The official Nato line, as expressed by
>>>President Bill Clinton and CIA director George Tenet, was that the
>>>attack on the Chinese Embassy was a mistake. Defence Secretary William
>>>Cohen said: 'One of our planes attacked the wrong target because the
>>>bombing instructions were based on an outdated map.'
>>>
>>>Later, a source in the US National Imagery and Mapping Agency said that
>>>the 'wrong map' story was 'a damned lie'.
>>>
>>>Tenet apologised last July, saying: 'The President of the United States
>>>has expressed our sincere regret at the loss of life in this tragic
>>>incident and has offered our condolences to the Chinese people and
>>>especially to the families of those who lost their lives in this
>>>mistaken attack.
>>>
>>>Nato's apology was predicated on the excuse that the three missiles
>>>which landed in one corner of the embassy block were meant to be
>>>targeted at the Yugoslav Federal Directorate for Supply and Procurement,
>>>the FDSP. But inquiries have revealed there never was a VJ directorate
>>>of supply and procurement at the site named by Tenet. The VJ office for
>>>supplies - which Tenet calls FDSP - is some 500 metres down the street
>>>from the address he gave. It was bombed later.
>>>
>>>Moreover the CIA and other Nato intelligence agencies, such as Britain's
>>>MI6 and the code-breakers at GCHQ, would have listened in to
>>>communication traffic from the Chinese embassy as a matter of course
>>>since it moved to the site in 1996.
>>>
>>>A Nato flight control officer in Naples also confirmed to us that a map
>>>of 'non-targets': churches, hospitals and embassies, including the
>>>Chinese, did exist. On this 'don't hit' map, the Chinese embassy was
>>>correctly located at its current site, and not where it had been until
>>>1996 - as claimed by the US and NATO.
>>>
>>>Why the Chinese were prepared to help Milosevic is a more murky
>>>question. One possible explanation is that the Chinese lack Stealth
>>>technology, and the Yugoslavs, having shot down a Stealth fighter in the
>>>early days of the air campaign, were in a good position to trade. The
>>>Chinese may have calculated that Nato would not dare strike its embassy,
>>>but the five-storey building was emptied every night of personnel. Only
>>>three people died in the attack, two of whom were, reportedly, not
>>>journalists - the official Chinese version - but intelligence officers.
>>>
>>>The Chinese military attache, Ven Bo Koy, who was seriously wounded in
>>>the attack and is now in hospital in China, told Dusan Janjic, the
>>>respected president of Forum for Ethnic Relations in Belgrade, only
>>>hours before the attack, that the embassy was monitoring incoming cruise
>>>missiles in order to develop counter-measures.
>>>
>>>Nato spokesman Lee McClenny yesterday stood by the official version. 'It
>>>was a terrible mistake,' he said, 'and we have apologised.' A spokesman
>>>for the Chinese embassy in London said yesterday: 'We do not believe
>>>that the embassy was bombed because of a mistake with an out-of-date
>>>map.'
>>>
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