-Caveat Lector- .............................................................. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Dr. Ken Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Conspiracy Theory and Libertarianism Date: Sunday, October 24, 1999 3:03 PM I think the future of liberty is much more important than its past. Whoever gets credit for the idea seems silly to me. How about we try to just enact liberty now, for ourselves? Let historians argue the finer points. Personally, I don't care who invented my automobile as long as it works. Also, I think its a joke to try to establish liberty for the future. Future generations will do whatever they like, regardless of anything we put on paper. See, for example, how far America is from the ideals written into our founding documents. Let's just clean up this mess and have a little liberty for you and me RIGHT NOW! By the way, liberty is not founded on violence. We cannot win liberty by killing people. The secret to liberty is trust and tolerance. The path to liberty is to put more love, trust and especially tolerance into as many hearts as it takes to transform society. The form of government is irrelevant. We could have liberty with a king, a democracy, or even anarchy. When enough hearts are ready to allow others their rights, we will all have our rights. When enough prefer security and come from fear of their fellow-men, we will have tyranny. The words on constitutions and the promises of politicians are all just so much dust blowing around in the wind. A free-loving society will be free. A security-loving society will be enslaved. It's really just that simple. History and logic prove that statement. I say let's restore our liberty, then we can discuss the finer points of its origins. Ken At 10:00 AM -0700 10/24/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >.............................................................. > >Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: >From: Book Search Co-ordinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Conspiracy Theory and Libertarianism >Date: Saturday, October 23, 1999 11:05 AM > >My my, James, what a change. You've moved from your usual name calling and >abuse to something with some substance. [Not very much substance, as we >shall see below, but any improvement is welcome.] > > >Oh come off it, James. You know very well, if you are half as educated as >you claim to be, that the modern tradition of liberty originated as an >ENGLISH reaction to the failed ENGLISH Revolution of the 17th Century, and >that the American Revolution of a hundred years later was simply a >continuance of that dissident tradition. > >James Responds: Your ethocentrism is a bit telling Craig. Liberty, I am >sure, has a wider pedigree than you imply. Further, the modern tradition of >liberty is just about extinguished, esp. in Britain...perhaps because it was >always more fraud than reality. Forwarded for info and discussion from the New >Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *********************************** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists & E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, & resources. 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