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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS



DEBORAH BROWN, et al., Civil Action No.H-95-587



Plaintiffs

v.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, et al.



Defendants





DECLARATION OF ERIC R. LARSEN, Ph.D.



1. My name is Eric R. Larsen. I am at present a consultant
specializing in work relating to combustion properties of organic
materials, fire technology, fire cause, origin and spread, and
combustion modification (fire retardance) of polymers.

2. My experience is set forth in my curriculum vitae, which is
attached to this declaration. I received my Bachelor of Science
in chemistry from the University of Washington and my doctorate
from the University of Colorado. I retired as a Senior Scientist
at Dow Chemical Co. in 1986, after thirty years with the company.
I hold 47 U.S. patents on chemical processes, including one on a
halogenated anesthetic now used in about 90% of veterinary
anesthesias. I have authored or co authored 35 scientific
publications, including articles in the Encyclopedia of Chemical
Technology on fire retardant chemicals and in Drugs Affecting the
Nervous System on the mechanism of chemical narcosis. I am a
member of the Editorial Advisory Board of the Journal of Fire
Science.

3. I have also done extensive work in the field of anesthesia
development and use. Thirteen of my patents, four of my papers,
and three of my treatise chapters ("The Chemistry of Experimental
Pharmacology," in Handbook of Experimental Pharmacology (1972);
"Fluorine Compounds in Anesthesiology," in Fluorine Chemistry
Reviews (1969) and [coauthored] "Mechanisms of Narcosis," in
Drugs Affecting the Nervous System) relate to anesthesia and
narcosis.

4. I have been asked to render an opinion on the probable effects
of the CS gas injections into the Davidian residence at Mt.
Carmel, outside Waco, Texas. In preparing this opinion I have
consulted the study of the gassing undertaken by Failure Analysis
Associates, sketches of the dimensions and internal structure of
the building,the Forward Looking Infrared tape made of the fire,
and MSDS (Manufacturers' Standard Data Sheets) for the chemicals
involved. The two chemicals involved were o chlorobenzylidene
malononitrile (commonly known as "CS"), and methylene chloride
(MeCl2), in which the CS was dissolved before spraying. MeCl2
makes up the greater part of the solution: Ferret rounds, for
instance, contain 33.25 grams of MeCl2 bearing 3.7 grams of CS.

5. In addition to the Ferrets, gas was injected using a system
described in the Justice Department report as the "Mark V." This
may be a description of either of two systems. The Model 5
injector carries in each "bottle" 30 grams (a bit over an ounce)
of CS dissolved in 1070 grams (roughly 2.4 pounds) of MeCl2. The
M5 injector carries no less than fifty pounds of CS in each
container. In rendering this opinion I have assumed that only the
smaller Model 5 was used. If in fact the M5 is the injector
described, CS concentrations would have to be revised upward; we
would then be speaking of tens of pounds per container, rather
than an ounce. In that event, each injection would have sent a
fuel load into the building equalling in effect the distribution
of about 3-4 gallons of gasoline. Given that flame
sources--lanterns, candles, etc.- were known to be inside, this
would be consistent with a deliberate intention of starting a
fire.

6. CS is a high-melting flammable solid (dust) whose sole use is
as a "tear gas." Its effects are not limited to eye irritation
and tearing, however. At 1-5 parts per million it produces eye
irritation and a copious flow of tears. At concentrations of
12-20 ppm it attacks the respiratory tract and causes difficulty
in breathing. In the

respiratory tract or on moist skin it causes a chemical burn
similar to sunburn and can be classed as a vesicant, similar to
"mustard gas."

7. The CS was introduced dissolved in methylene chloride. MeCl2
is a small, highly volatile chlorinated hydrocarbon commonly used
as a solvent. This compound is flammable in a vapor concentration
greater than 12-14%; it is generally considered nonflammable so
long as it is used in well-ventilated areas or in the open air.
Like all small oil soluble compounds inhalation of its vapors
causes "narcosis" or what is commonly called "anesthesia." The
anesthetic properties in man are predictable to a reasonably high
degree of accuracy based on animal studies. The anesthetic
effects are a function primarily of concentration and are
somewhat time-dependent at low concentrations.

8. The effects of the CS applied by the injector units can be
briefly stated. Upon being sprayed, MeCl2 would rapidly
evaporate, until only crystals (dust) of CS remained in the air.
Depending upon the size of the original droplet the CS particles
could be 1 micron or larger. Spray that wetted a wall would lead
a deposit of CS that might or might not be a dust, but would
slowly release and make the building uninhabitable for days or
weeks: it would not be blown out by the wind. The initial spray
would contain vapor concentrations of MeCl2 above its flammable
limits. As it dispersed, the vapor concentration would become
flammable, and as dispersion continued it would eventually fall
below the flammable limits. As the MeCl2 droplets evaporated, the
droplets would decrease in size and their flammability increase.

9. The same would be true, albeit on a smaller physical scale,
for the impact of each Ferret round. That is, impact would
produce what may be visualized as an expanding bubble of droplets
and vapor. Within that expanding bubble there would be, for a
certain tima core where the MeCl2 concentration is too high to
ignite, an outer edge where it was too low to ignite, and an
intermediate zone where the concentration was right for ignition.
If the ignitable portion contacted a flame source such as a
candle or a lantern, fire would result.

10. The narcotic effects of MeCl2 would follow a similar
patterns. Anyone caught in the spray itself would experience
tachycardia and possibly cardiac arrest. MeCl2 is known to
sensitize the heart, particularly if the person is already under
stress or fearful. In the case of most inhalation general
anesthetics this effect is most pronounced if the person
experiences a rapid change in the air concentration--partial
pressure of the compound--of the agent. As the cloud expanded
within the building anyone exposed would experience difficulty in
breathing due to the CS. The MeCl2, being a potent anesthetic
agent, would tend to alleviate the pain as narcosis set in and
the brain began to shut down.

11. In lay terms, MeCl2 is a very potent, fast-acting inhalation
general anesthesia agent--nearly on a par with Halothane, the
most potent agent currently used in surgical anesthesia. When
MeCl2 is inhaled, it moves from the lungs through the blood to
the brain, where it interferes with the electrical activity of
the cognitive function of the brain. Of the material inhaled,
about one-third is transferred to the brain, where it partitions
into the lipid portion of the nerve cells and essentially shuts
them down. The remainder partitions into other lipid repositories
of the body. As the lipid reservoirs are filled, it will be
necessary to reduce partial pressure (concentration) of the gas
or the degree of anesthesia will continue to increase until death
results.

12. Anesthetic effects of MeCl2 on humans can be predicted from
animal studies of Halothane. Studies of effects on dogs have been
used for years to predict effects on humans, since anesthesia
effects on the two species are similar. In the dog it has been
shown that a concentration of 0.46% (volume) in inhaled air will
eliminate spontaneous movement, 0.69% will produce nonreaction to
an incision, and 0.81 will produce nonreaction to a tail clamp.
Effects will vary from animal to animal. In any event,
concentrations of MeCl2 only half those which Failure Analysis
calculated were created by the injections into the Davidian
residence would have rendered unprotected individuals unable to
escape a fire.

13. I have attempted to determine the situation in the "vault" or
"bunker," a concrete room where the deceased children and many of
the deceased women were found. The injection of a single Model 5
bottle into this room would cause the occupants to become
comatose and unable to escape. Two bottles could have raised
concentrations to lethal levels. Four bottles (the load carried
by some of the injecting vehicles) would have produced full
anesthesia within 10-20 seconds and death unless there was some
way to quickly remove the unconscious victims from exposure. If
the MeCl2 dissipated between injections, the occupants would tend
to recover between the injections: they would be cognizant of
what was going on around them, but only in the sense that a
"falling-down" drunk is cognizant. It is doubtful that they would
be able to plan an escape. Those surviving each injection would
have gone through cycles of pain from the CS, anesthesia from the
MeCl2, and awakening to renewed pain from the CS. The exposure of
a room of children to these cycles can aptly be described as
torture.

14. Both the CS and the MeCl2 vapor would be flammable under the
conditions of the injection. The CS dust would pose the risk of a
flash fire; a dust explosion would be possible but I do not think
likely. I do note that the lower explosive limit of CS dust is 25
parts per million, and the government's own experts, testifying
during hearings in the House, indicated that concentrations up to
110 ppm were achieved by the injections. A thin layer of CS dust,
or concentrated MeCl2 vapor, laying near the floor would suffice
if the lower flammability limit is exceeded: this is what happens
when flame follows a trail of gasoline vapor. As the flame moves
it will create a draft and as air and additional fuel are sucked
into the flame the fire ball may grow. I would expect such a fire
to follow the hallways in the same way that fire will follow as
gasoline vapor trail. Considering the direction of the wind and
the fact that the fire behavior suggests most of the internal
doors were closed, I would expect such a flash fire to move from
the north end of the building down the hallways toward the
kitchen and chapel. I note that some of the survivors have stated
they witnessed a fireball flashing down the hallways. This is
consistent with my analysis.

15. I have personal experience with flash fires--having been
twice caught in them--and would not expect the flash fire itself
to cause serious burns to persons whom it passed by. However, if
the flash fire met materials which would act like tinder--hay,
paper, spilled fuel--it would likely set these afire. If there
were multiple sources of this tinder, such a flash fire would act
as a quick fuse to start fires at various places in relatively
short order.

16. During combustion, both chemicals involved produce toxic
smoke. CS generates hydrogen cyanide, while MeCl2 generates
hydrogen chloride and chlorine. Both give copious amounts of
carbon monoxide.

17. To determine the exact effects of CS and MeCl2 on individuals
and on the fire will require obtaining detailed information
presently kept by the government. Dr. Uhlig, and Failure
Analysis, estimate injection of about 7 gallons of MeCl2 and 2
pounds of CS. Figures given by the government's experts at the
House hearings would extrapolate out to about twice these
figures. Dr. Uhlig mentions other estimates which would put the
figures much higher, up to 90 gallons. In my opinion, even if the
lowest figures are used, many of the deaths of occupants,
particularly of the children, were caused directly or indirectly
by the effects of MeCl2 injected.

18. During the House hearings, a government witness testified
that the Attorney General had been briefed on the case of a
toddler who was exposed to CS and recovered without permanent
harm. The case appears to be that reported in Park & Giammona,
"Toxic Effects of Tear Gas on an Infant Following Prolonged
Exposure," American Journ. of Diseases of the Child, vol. 123 p.
245 (March, 1972). The article, interpreted as showing recovery
without harm, in fact suggests that two hours' exposure to CS
placed the child in torment and in risk of death. The child was
immediately treated, but required suctioning to relieve airway
obstruction, experienced chemical burns to the skin, ultimately
went into severe respiratory distress and had to be placed on a
respirator. Those who advised on the gassing thus had actual
knowledge of severe risks to children.

19. The manufacturers of these materials warn of risks of
toxicity and fire in their MSDSs. Considering the number of "red
flags" raised by even a casual reading of the manufacturer's
literature, and the effort which went into planning, I find it
improbable that those using CS and MeCl2 in the quantities used
at Mt. Carmel did not have actual knowledge that their plan would
result in deaths of persons inside.

I declare under penalty of perjury that the above is true and
correct.

s/s

Eric Larsen, Ph.d.



Dated this 28th day of May, 1996.

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