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Subject: [MC] (Farley to Kasten) Re: Questions only an Insider of HPF could answer
Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 3:24 PM
Dick Farley's reply and comments follow this repeat of what Ms. Kasten wrote:
In a message dated 10/26/99 12:22:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Subj: Questions only an Insider of HPF could answer
> Date: 10/26/99 12:22:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kasten, Kathy)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ('[EMAIL PROTECTED]'),
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Dick:
> I answered all your questions to the
> best of my ability. Now, I think it
> is time (and what an opportunity for
> the group to have you - an insider)
> for you to answer some questions. I
> refer of course to the fact that you
> worked for the Human Potential Foundation.
> For example, I have been wondering for
> a long time if the HPF was in fact a
> front group/shield for subprojects of
> MKULTRA. I am thinking particularly
> of the subproject category called
> "Magic Arts" in the 1977-78 Senate
> Hearing on MKULTRA. Was HPF a front
> for research which later became the
> military remote viewing project, or
> other such projects?
> Who in fact wrote the Human Potential
> Foundation UFO Matrix of "Belief"
> (page 17, UFOs and Mental Health",
> by Bob Teets)? I have different people
> ascribe the creation to different people
> within the HPF. Maybe, you can clear
> this up.
> One last question, was it a policy of
> the HPF - as part of the mechanism of
> attempting to keep gathered information
> classified - to attempt to discredit,
> or just generally harass individuals
> who came to close to discovering, the
> fact that the term "UFOs" was used as
> a cover for real world classified projects?
> KK
>
[Farley]
To Kathy Kasten
While I do not believe the "mindcontrol" list is the place to entertain or to
seriously reply to your libelous and off-the-wall questions about the Human
Potential Foundation, because you have used this forum to spread inaccurate
and in my opinion unhelpful (to your "targets," the perceived victims of
mind-influencing) misinformation, I am hoping that Wes Thomas will indulge me
and allow me to respond, on the record, for myself and not on behalf of any
of the folks mentioned.
Not one element of your "have you stopped beating your wife" type of bogus
questioning is accurate, and it is a very shabby technique, Kathy. Shameful!
You and Dr. West and whoever else at UCLA you are shilling for are an
embarrassment.
That you, a former "UFO abductee" now claiming "mind control," even have such
an audience is in itself a tribute to free speech or the gullibility of
willing true-believers.
Here's the "reality," if you can take it.
The Human Potential Foundation, Inc. was a non-profit, tax-exempt charitable
organization chartered in Washington, DC in 1989, as "The Claiborne Pell
Center for Human Potential," named after its founding chair, then-Senator
Claiborne I. Pell, (D-RI). The organization was re-named (in 1991) the Human
Potential Foundation, Inc.
Senator Pell has had a long-standing interest in paranormal and exceptional
human performance, and for many years had been one of the Capitol Hill
"advocates" for programs to explore the potential of these paradigms for a
range of scientific, intell and health advances. At the time of HPF's
founding and early operation, Senator Pell was the Chairman of the Foreign
Relations Committee of the U. S. Senate. He was a long-time advocate for the
United Nations and generally is regarded as a "patrician" patron of
internationalism, no doubt influenced by his presence as a young State Dept.
Foreign Service officer at the founding of the U. N., in San Francisco, in
1945. He was a mixture of arrogance, idealism and self-absorption, as many of
his class.
The founding board of directors of the HPF included Senator Pell as Chair;
one of the Senator's personal attorneys, Mark B. Sandground, of Sandground,
Barondess and West, a law firm based in Vienna, VA, where HPF's offices were
housed for the first couple of years of HPF's existence; and finally, Cecil
Beam "Scott" Jones, Ph. D., Commander, US Navy, Retired. Jones served as
president of the organization.
My role was first as a consultant for program development (beginning in
August 1991; I had met Scott Jones in June, 1988 at Dr. Leo Sprinkle's UFO
conference in Laramie because Leo believed that my questions about so-called
UFOs would interest Scott. I went full-time with the HPF in June 1992 and
continued as HPF's Director of Project Development until February 3, 1994.
Then I resigned (the day before Laurance S. Rockefeller's second visit to the
Clinton White House about "UFO disclosures, but it was not known to Jones and
Rockefeller why I had officially separated myself from the HPF at that
moment). But I continued as the program consultant with HPF until April 30,
1994. There is ample documentation of our non-profit activities; do be
careful of what you say online or in any other venue which could libel me or
former colleagues. I am already in touch with UCLA about you.
So no, HPF was not part of "MK-ULTRA" in any fashion. Actually, Dr. Jones and
Senator Pell, who were associated since at least 1985 when Jones joined
Pell's staff as his Special Assistant for the matters they had in common
interest...both publicly said that they were personally and governmentally
concerned about such "mind-influencing" programs, preferring that these
capabilities be exploited in the public domain and for the good of all
humankind. Whether they had another "hidden" agenda? No doubt, but it was not
necessarily "sinister" in the retail political sense as your slanders imply.
Is Jones a sophisticated intelligence operator? Used to be. Now, was Laurance
Rockefeller (and/or his family) involved in any mind-control or psychiatric
research via various intelligence agencies or their assets? Yes, indeed.
As to whether "HPF was a front for military remote viewing projects," perhaps
so, but that was handled privately by Scott Jones, who is documented (Jim
Schnabel's book "Remote Viewers") as having operated a small "stable" of
psychics and astrologers whose remote viewing skills Scott had for years
marketed to various "clients." This work he funnelled primarily through his
own, "home-based" non-profit organization, of which his wife and I believe
his son were the only "officers" besides himself. It was called the "Center
for Applied Anomalous Phenomena," and consisted primarily of a telephone
answering machine in Scott's kitchen at home, a separate phone line and a
listing in the Northern Virginia Yellow Pages, the only entry in
"Parapsychology."
Scott was well known as a strong advocate for these programs, and before he'd
put his own needs and greeds ahead of his mission and, in my opinion, his
country, he was at times heroic and intellectually and philosophically
important in this venue. He is, after all, a veteran combat jet fighter pilot
and brilliant military intelligence officer. I had other information which
only increased my admiration for him, while at the same time intensifying my
contempt for what he did to me and my colleagues, and to the Human Potential
Foundation and its resources, which could have done good things.
>From my own experience, and that of Scott's former executive assistant
Menelika A. McCarthy, Scott's "Center" was primarily a way by which Scott
could learn of folks who had or were having "anomalous" experiences.
Sometimes he would fly off to see them, according to Menelika especially if
the callers were women and "in need of comfort and being taken seriously."
You can read into that whatever you desire, but the record of his behaviors
is well documented as being embarrassingly self-serving.
The Center for Applied Anomalous Phenomena was also a funding "conduit" for
the money Scott received outside of his Senate staff salary and expense
accounts, for travel and other expenses Scott engendered in his work on
"psychic stuff," officially for Senator Pell but also on behalf of Laurance
Rockefeller and Prince Hans Adam II of Liechtenstein, from time to time.
Scott would get involved with various projects of interest to him and his
benefactors, and would "front" for their interests. Some say that Scott Jones
was or is the "Falcon" of Aviary (UFOlogy) notoriety. I would agree that this
is possible; he is brilliant, ruthless in an American sort of way, and
fiercely committed to whatever it is that he believes in, no matter who else
it might damage.
As for his ethics and why he is committed to what he is, that's for a shrink
to figure.
Among his activities of importance to the development of the "UFO alien
abduction" belief system that permeated the late 1980s and early 1990s was
the "Witnesses to Rosewell" videotape, which was produced by the Fund for UFO
Research, with some funding from Jones' "Center" to help FUFOR complete it.
It was a key "belief fuel."
FUFOR is based in the Washington, DC area and has long been a promulgator of
"hardware UFO beliefs" among the UFOlogical crowd. Working closely with MUFON
(Mutual UFO Network), FUFOR is the inheritor (of both tasks and some
personnel) of the old NICAP (National Investigations Committee for Aerial
Phenomena), founded by Major Donald Keyhoe in the 1950s. A former executive
director of NICAP, aviation writer Don Berliner, has been a board member of
FUFOR since its inception, as has former NICAP operator Richard Hall, now up
in years but certainly a "true believer."
FUFOR has at times been headed by Dr. Bruce Maccabee, a civilian optical
(laser) physicist with the U. S. Navy and a "public advocate" for such
UFOlogy mainstays as the so-called "Gulf Breeze Incident" and subsequent UFO
sightings there, which locally (in Pensacola) are being kept alive by ex-Air
Force officers now in the "UFO Conference" business. (X-ref: Lt. Col. Donald
Ware, retired, a former fighter pilot with a degree in nuclear engineering,
who operates a whole host of USAF intelligence types down there pushing
"UFOs" and abductions as "explanations," primarily as disinformation for
earlier "stealth" aircraft operation. Ware says he gets messages from the
"aliens" and communicates them to the command staff at Eglin AFB, FL.)
Another project to which Scott Jones routed funding via his "Center" was to
one of the TREAT conferences, which was promoting "past life therapy" and
reincarnation modalities. TREAT was at the time headed by Dr. Rima Laibow,
who is now married to retired General A. Stubblebine, who in the early 1980s
was in charge of the U. S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM).
And one of General "Bert" Stubblebine's most trusted staff officers was Col.
John Alexander, a highly decorated veteran of Vietnam and the Special Forces,
who later worked on "The Jedi Project," a military exploration of
"exceptional human performance" in the war-fighting setting; (see "The
Warrior's Edge," by Morris, Alexander, et al.) The idea was to create a sort
of "First Earth Battalion" of what we might call "warrior-monks," working
from the "Eastern" tradition, mixing martial arts and meditation with higher
technology and "low-tech" military doctrine. Col. Alexander did his Ph.D.
work with noted "thanatologist" (the study of death and dying) with Dr.
Elisabeth Kubler-Ross. After a change of top brass in the Army, General
Stubblebine departed and Alexander soon thereafter and the military "buried"
its remote viewing and other "applied psi" and New Age programs. James
Schnabel's book "Remote Viewers" tells this story well.
Scott Jones got money from Prince Hans Adam II, the monarch of the
Principality of Liechtenstein and a major "player" in Euro-politics and the
European Union, which Scott passed on to Rima Laibow to partially fund the
TREAT conference the year it was focusing on "UFO alien abductions." There
was a falling out when Scott didn't want "abduction researcher, hypnotist and
artist" Budd Hopkins of New York to be one of the featured presenters. Scott
and Rima, who previously according to Robin Andrews Quail (of Atlanta) had a
kind of a "thing" going on, then had a falling out. It also caused a rift in
the relationship between Hans Adam and Scott Jones, because "the UFOlogist
formerly known as Prince" simply does not like publicity associated with his
efforts to convince millions of Americans and others around the world that
"UFOs" of the sort Whitley Strieber and John Mack have been playing with are
real.
Hans Adam's motivations are for others to scrutinize, but I suggest they
begin with his father's attitudes about the Third Reich & Cold War alliances
against the USSR.
Prince Hans Adam is also a long-time family friend of Senator Claiborne Pell,
and in his youth the young Prince did an internship in Senator Pell's office,
as did Prince Hans Adam's own son more recently. (For the record, so also did
the son of HPF founding board member and attorney, Mark B. Sandground, serve
as a Pell intern.) I have an exchange of correspondence between Prince Hans
Adam and myself in which the Prince outlines his version of why he funded
Jones and "UFO beliefs."
Oh, yes. Col. Alexander is married to Rima's former closest associate,
Victoria.
She has written some pieces for the MUFON Journal, about UFOs coincidentally.
Alexander's and his former wife, Jan Northup, parted ways in the early 1990s,
according to Scott Jones...who with his own wife had taken expeditions to use
Jan's apparently considerable gifts as a psychic to help Scott communicate
with dolphins in the Bahamas and Bimini area, to see whether the dolphins
would "tell" Jones and John Alexander where they might find "submerged
extra-terrestrial artifacts." That story was written up in Omni Magazine's
"anti-matter" column (1991). Speculation might be in order that the "dolphin
and ET" gambit was a cover operation for Scott's little non-profit to appear
that it was doing "silly New Age" business while pursuing other operations,
perhaps like the one's Kasten suggests. Or maybe it wasn't. The possibility
must be entertained that these guys simply DO BELIEVE what they've come to
think is "the answer" to humankind's timeless questions about all that it.
Scott Jones served for a time as a board member of the tiny "Atlantic
University" non-accredited graduate school program operated by the Edgar
Cayce Foundation's Association for Research and Enlightenment (ARE), based in
Virginia Beach, VA. (The ARE and "Atlantic" have conducted several searches
in the Bimini area for remnants of Atlantis or other pre-Columbian
civilization artifacts in keeping with Cayce's readings about those topics;
and Dr. David Zink (The Stones of Atlantis, in the mid-1970s) previously
conducted several expeditions for the ARE to Bimini. It is of note that Scott
Jones previously served a very controversial tenure as a board member and
ultimately as President of the New York based American Society for Psychical
Research (ASPR), a term which ended in 1992 in a bitter ASPR dispute.
The most fascinating inquiry into the "beliefs" of these folks and their
powerful and rich benefactors is in a new book, just published in the United
Kingdom. Entitled "The Stargate Conspiracy," it's by Lynn Picknett and Clive
Prince, and published by Little Brown & Company. A U. S. version is slated
for sometime in Year 2000. The book is non-fiction, well documented and is
about the so-called "Council of Nine" which has influenced so many
influential people with their channelled material, including Gene
Roddenberry; J. J. Hurtak ('Keys of Enoch'); benefactor Henry Belk; and of
course, Dr. Andrijah Puharich and Uri Geller, as well as the former
CIA-funded researchers into "psi" and "remote viewing" at the former Stanford
Research Institute (SRI) in the early to mid-1970s. Serious researchers would
do well to get "Stargate Conspiracy" and to pursue its foot-noted references
and bibliography, ASAP!
As for who wrote the Matrix of UFO Beliefs, i.e., the one you cited in Bob
Teets's book(s): "West Virginia UFOs: Close Encounters in the Mountain State"
and his later one, "UFOs and Mental Health"? Well the fact is that I
developed and wrote it. I am not aware of anybody who has disputed this, as
the facts are clear and I worked on it from at least the mid-1980s, when I
was having a series of conversations with the late Dr. J. Allen Hynek, after
the publication of W. A. Harbinson's "Genesis," in which Dr. Hynek was
mentioned (this is a thinly disguised fiction about purported Nazi science
converted to nefarious international purposes, using "UFOs" as the cover
operation). My approach to this was influenced heavily by Jacques Vallee. It
apparently has been a mutually influencing relationship (Jacques consulted
early on in the Rockefeller UFO Disclosure Initiative, at my suggestion to
Jones, but Jacques rather quickly opted out when he saw where Laurance and
John Mack were going), as Jacques makes a nice reference to our exchange in
his little fiction tale about the UFO cover-up, entitled "Fastwalker." He
gave a nice thank-you to "Cloud Rider on Internet" for some ideas, but I owe
so much more to his scholarship and thinking.
If there is any controversy about my "Matrix of UFO Beliefs," it seemed to
surface in 1995, when the then-White House Science Advisor, Dr. John Gibbons,
responded to several Freedom of Information Requests about the "UFO
Disclosure Initiative" which Laurance Rockefeller made to the Clinton White
House (circa 1993-1994), and which I had staffed during my tenure with the
HPF. When Dr. Gibbons released that stack of documents, there was a
"modified" "Matrix of UFO Beliefs," which had added only one item, i.e.,
something Scott Jones had put in as an option for what "UFOs" are believed to
be by various population sectors, namely "It was the Soviets." Given that the
"Matrix of UFO Beliefs" was developed as a tool for analyizing the UFO field
and its public belief-systems, and not as something to "determine what UFOs
really are," (because there is no one single answer to that), Jones's
addition was in line with its concept. But inclusion of that revised "Matrix"
was a lie and not in compliance with the FOIA requests, as Bob Teets did
himself point out in several letters to Dr. John Gibbons at the White House.
You see, Bob had prepared (i.e., typesetting into a format for distribution)
the version that the White House released with their 1993 correspondence
files...but he had not done so until April or May of 1995, just before Scott
Jones went to Pensacola to present at the "Gulf Breeze UFO Conference," at
which he discussed the Matrix of UFO Beliefs. We have that audio tape of
Scott's presentation. What apparently is the "mystery," is how and why Jones
persuaded Dr. Gibbons to "switch" the Matrix of UFO Beliefs that Jones did
not have Bob modify until May of 1995 and either take out or change the one
that went into the White House on or about May 15, 1993, a few weeks after
Laurance Rockefeller's first visit to the White House on this matter. We do
have correspondence Jones wrote to Dr. Gibbons, after my departure but before
Jones knew what I had done on my own vis-a-vis informing the White House
senior staff what Jones and Rockefeller were "up to," as far as I knew it, in
which Jones told Gibbons to "watch out" for me, as "Dick Farley may be
planning to write his own book" about the UFO disclosure initiative
Rockefeller was making. Gibbons already was "professionally afraid" of his
being dragged into this kind of thing publicly, something which was
exacerbated by the bogus "Operation Right To Know" demonstrations in front of
the White House by operatives and well-meaning "UFOnies" aiming to derail
Rockefeller's & Jones effort.
But your question specified the version of the Matrix of UFO Beliefs in Bob's
books, and I did write those, as Bob notes in his "West Virginia UFOs," and
as is detailed from the "UFOs and Mental Health" narrative (which I wrote
also) about the Matrix. On the final typed version which we (were told we
had) submitted to the White House, both my name and Scott Jones's were typed
at the bottom of the disclaimer about the paper's not being a position on the
reality of "UFOs," but simply a tool for the President to consider what
various public sectors believe about UFOs as could be gleaned from an
analysis of the extant popular literature about the topic. Jones was the
president of the organization and, just as in academe, it is a courtesy to
put the "official" imprimatur of a sponsoring organization or senior
professor on a thesis.
Kasten's final question about "whether it was the policy" of the HPF
basically to serve as a disruptor of anybody who came close to figuring out
"UFOs," or at least the parts of that phenomena which are clearly NOT of "ET"
or "metaphysical" origin, is an excellent one, even if she put it into her
not-atypical hysterical, libelous form.
It was NOT the "policy" of the Human Potential Foundation for which I worked
to do any such thing. The proper question might be, was the HPF a "cover"
operation for things Senator Pell and Laurance Rockefeller didn't want to
talk about publicly? It clearly was. Besides HPF's being the conduit for the
nearly $200,000 which went to Dr. John Mack at Harvard (in 1993, essentially
setting up his PEER project to study "alien abductions"), one more modest
project was the HPF's bringing to the U. S. a team of Russian
"psycho-correction" scientists, in March 1993. This visit has been widely
reported, although the Rockefeller funding and HPF association hasn't been.
It has also been reported that the FBI held meetings with these Russians and
their American representatives during the Branch Davidian seige at Waco
(March 1993) to see whether any of the Russians' technologies could assist
with that situation. That is a correct report; such meetings did take place.
Events at Waco unfolded in a far different direction owing to internal
differences over a "final solution" within the FBI.
In his monthly updates to Senator Pell and Laurance Rockefeller, who did not
serve in any official "board" capacity but who was essentially the
"sole-source" funder of the HPF after Prince Hans Adam bailed out on Jones
(summer, 1992), Jones called the topic "Subliminal Negotiations," referring
to "applied mind-influencing" techniques and technologies which, to balance
the record, three U. S. Presidents had reported believing may have been used
against them in sensitive negotiations with the USSR, (Nixon, Carter &
Reagan), according to non-fictional and thinly fictionalized reports.
The 1993 "Psycho-Correction" seminar, which was not classified and to which
were invited representatives of a number of American intelligence and
military agencies and Congressional committees...about 35 people attended,
with more attending a separate demonstration of this technology at the
University of Kansas Medical School...under the behest of Jones' friend, Dr.
Fowler Jones (no relation to Scott Jones)... was an effort by intelligence
consultants Janet and Chris Morris to get funding and perhaps a foundation or
industrial place for the Russian scientists, who apparently had NOT "sold
out" to the former KGB, as had some of their former colleagues in the Moscow
Medical Institute. At least, they said they'd not sold out.
Janet Morris was at the time concerned that the afore-mentioned Col.
Alexander would somehow get this technology funded and "take it black,"
(i.e., into the "black project budget") and outside of any public or
government oversight. Alexander was at the time (Mar. 93) at Los Alamos
National Laboratory, where he was in charge of researching what is at times
called "non-lethal weaponry," but is actually a search for military doctrine
and technology to enable the waging of "Low-Intensity Conflict" with reduced
collateral civilian casualties or the need for overwhelming and perhaps
excessive firepower to put down insurrections and (foreign or domestic?)
future civil upheavals and public panics. Those who fear a "New World Order"
do have cause.
There is more to the story and some serious public policy debating which
ought to go on, no doubt, but not in this venue and not in response to Kathy
Kasten's chaff.
I thank Wes Thomas and sonic.net for allowing me to respond. What I would say
to those who are using this list in the hopes of finding redress for
perceived activities which may have been used against them and their minds is
proceed with caution. It would serve all of you well to determine factually
and via the public record who it is that you are confiding in and allowing to
stimulate and organize you into a class of victims who may indeed have
something very important to share, but not with her and the people for whom
she works. Find out who they are and have been, FIRST!
It is too important an issue both for you perceived victims and for our
nation as a whole for disinformation and confabulation to derail your effort
to get help & justice!
Regards,
Dick Farley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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