-Caveat Lector- Hello Ed, Thanks for your correspondence. Citizen's groups and NGO's notwithstanding, the U.N. is and has been since it's inception positioned as an intermediate tool in acheiving a one-world totalitarian central government. Explain to me how agression and military armaments, Generals, etc. will all be made to evaporate in favor of a universal peace? When there is only ONE armed force, and the NWO's worldwide seizures of personal arms has been accomplished, who would stand a chance against that one armed force? Use a little common sense. The Communist plan never ends at the stated utopian goal. It always stalls out in the dictatorship of the proletariat because some elites have managed to sieze power (bombers, missiles, warships, money) and are loath to share the wealth with the proles. Ed, you've slowly become aware over the past couple of years ... (at the start of which you'll remember threatening to "turn me in" for posting a list of murdered persons with close ties to the Clinton White House :) ....of monumental govenmental corruption in the U.S. government (and economy too, I hope?). Allow me to suggest that your eyes are not yet fully opened to some of the harsher realities of the earth's domination by a relative handful of super-rich elites who are using you to attempt to acheive their ends. Based on your recent learning experience, I'd guess that you'll understand that a one-world government undertaking by humans in our general state of consciousness can only end up as stark totalitarianism.... in another year or two. Theoretically, Ed.... the U.S. is a representationally democratic federal republic. Theoretically we are governed according to a Constitution and a Bill of Rights which are MASTERPIECES of freedom compared to the underpinnings of many other world governments. Theoretically, we should not have to be subject to censorship, illegal search and seizure, and a laundry list of other offenses against our Constitution which are rampant in this "free" country. In practice, we are nearly completely powerless against our government, who at any time may choose to declare a little community of 78 of us "dangerous cultists" and proceed with military force to murder every man, woman and child of us. At will. Without retribution. This is the nature of totalitarian power, Ed- not even perfected yet into the one-world government. Explain to me, if you can- how you could possibly believe that a government LESS accountable by virtue of COMPLETE POWER could be expected to be LESS CORRUPT than the U.S. government? Look at NATO. Look at the incredible NATO attack we recently observed. Do you think that by attempting to disarm the planet (except, of course for those U.N. forces) you will somehow make such atrocity impossible? Don't be an UTTER FOOL ! It is impossible to hold unaccountable military might "in trust" ... and military might without opposition is definitively unaccountable... no matter where you start with thinking about such a situation, military dictatorship is the end result- unless you manage to change human nature overnight. Perhaps you will kill all the would-be-killers? NWOdor=totalitarianism. U.N.=NWOdor vehicle. Questions? I'd like to thank you very much for bringing Jean Hudon into my circle of cyber acquaintances. I believe that he is doing some very good work now that he has opted for the balanced approach of working for the best while being aware of the worst. Anything less is definitively delusional, a state which unfortunately encompasses the vast majority of the new-agers who prefer not to face any uncomfortable reality. Energetic progress to "the good" is a will'o'the wisp without surveilling and fully understanding "the bad." If you disbelieve this, I believe you are a ready (if unwitting) tool for "the bad." Especially when (in case you haven't noticed) we are faced with an ENTIRE HUMAN HISTORY of the powerful DOMINATING the powerless, and "the bad" inexolerably being attracted to POWER. The road to a hell of totalitarianism is paved with the good intentions of deluded idealists. (you can quote me on that) Bring as many interested correspondees as you can to this topic Ed. I'll show you how to separate the good-but-deluded from the totalitarian stooges. p.s. Have you heard anything more from Barbara Marx Hubbard regarding her work with the U.S. Military? Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/ http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rob Wheeler; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Single World Government NOT the problem.. upping the ante to$.04 In a message dated 99-11-15 22:25:23 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Everything WRONG with the world is wrong because of centralized power. Big governments and big corporations. The worst possible thing would be to provide a single world government as a central power. My $.02 >> DEAR DAVE & CULTURE-MATES: I respectfully disagree with Dave's position. I would agree that much of what is currently "wrong with the world" is a function of "big governments and big corporations". However, I strongly disagree with the position that " The worst possible thing would be to provide a single world government as a central power." The outcome of a single world government is totally a function of the nature of that government, and movement towards a "Global Peoples Assembly" (GPA) provides exciting and achievable steps AWAY FROM control by the aforementioned governments and corporations. (see the website for Millennium Peoples Assembly Network ..aka MPAN... <http://www.ourvoices.org> for details on steps in this direction.) cc-ing Sue Zipp and Rob Wheeler with whom I worked at the Hague Appeal for Peace meetings in May to begin laying the groundwork for the Global Peoples Assembly. Also cc-ing Robert Muller, former Asst. Secretary General of the UN who is a strong advocate of GPA. I would venture to say that having a single world government that is truly representative of the world's people is probably the BEST possible direction that humanity can take in the 21st Century and that is what I am choosing to work towards in supporting and assisting in the development of GPA. I invite each of you with these concerns to examine the formative steps being taken by MPAN towards a GPA, and to join me in bringing it to full manifestation. I also urge you to see the movie "OMEGA CODE" which deals precisely with the issues we're discussing. Upping the ante to $.04, I send you Love, Blessings & Aloha from Maui, Ed Jor-El Elkin Hawaii Delegate, MPAN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. 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