-Caveat Lector- Information for "USO" unidenfied submarine objects sightings, & conjecture relating LFAS /SURTASS with undersea WARFARE. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave -----Original Message----- From: jean hudon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 6:53 PM To: David Bresnahan Cc: Cheryl A. Magill; Nick Oredson; Dave Kupelian Subject: The true "Rational Explanation" for the LFAS? Taken from http://currents.net/newstoday/99/08/23/news1.html The US Navy's stated purpose for testing LFAS (Low Frequency Active Sonar) is to better equip themselves so as to identify and track a potential threat to our nation's security. With the USA deploying the defacto standard of the highest submarine technology, what's the Navy so worried about? Several people have brought up the idea of there being UFO/USO related incidents surrounding this littoral warfare research. For this reason, I consulted with James A. Peters regarding the idea of giving people a tailor-made contact page to report such incidents or observations which they may have identified; and to thereby relate that information to an UFO investigator/researcher. One reason to bring in an UFO/USO researcher is that it is easy to confuse actual information with belief systems. Afterall, most submersible crafts are somewhat unidentified when they are first detected in the water. Therefore, identifying them is in great part a pragmatic and mundane task requiring knowledge of equipment and practical skills. Identifying belief systems is a bit more abstract and goes back to cultural expectations, religious instruction, incorporation of myth, determination of preference and fundamental idealism. While there are many who will wish to embrace the later, it is an appreciable function that observing and identifying distant moving objects is a sufficiently difficult task, best conducted without bias or pre-conceived expectations. That is not to lessen the "lessons" of another process in learning about our oceans and our diverse relationship with both our heritage, and our future role on the planet. One standard services an ideology whereas another serves a practical function. These ideas are necessarily kept separate and apart from the nuts and bolts compilation of information necessary to create a data base. For instance, on Yom Kippur, I reflected on the Story of Jonah and the Whale. I thoroughly enjoyed the many analagous references to our modern problems with human arrogance and today's threatened oceans. However, all of that would be quite different from the observation-level data gathering function which Jim Peters will be conducting here. I have tried to compile such interesting references and am currently in the process of placing them together on one web page. Please be patient while that work develops. Several speculations about ancient cities, theories about Atlantis and even fantasy, speculation and lore will appear there. However, the intent and function of this "WURSCLCH" page will remain a manageable one dedicated to a compilation of information which is verifiable. FUTURE LINK TO NEW PAGE NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION James A. Peters is the Assistant Director of Colorado MUFON with six years investigative work in researching identifying the unknown. His expertise includes work he has done with Jose Escamilla, developing methods by which to conduct RODS investigations research. (A topic which has brought him to speak on several national broadcasts in the past and an anticipated tour to England this November.) He has a background in environmental sciences, knows his way around an Environmental Impact Statement is familiar with typical military procedures for dealing with environmental issues. Jim is familiar with the topic of LFA Sonar its proposed deployment by the US Navy. Persons wishing to report an observation or a sighting pertaining to LFA Sonar will need to leave a message and ask to speak with James A. Peters by NAME. Jim wrote this reply to someone who was asking for some explanation about the Navy's choice in using LFAS. The writer went on to say, ...... "I heard from an ex naval officer that the LFAS was probably designed for use as a powerful ray gun." Jim's reply was as follows: All I can offer you is the result of speculation regarding the Navy's strong intention to deploy LFAS. Their motivation seems rather out of place for this post cold war era. They say that LFAS is necessary because more countries have submarines now than ever before. Okay, I'll give them that. But are there more new submarines? Or are the existing submarines being sold and shuffled around? Besides, submarines are expensive, complex vehicles that take a long time to build, test and deploy. How could there be a sudden proliferation of a submarine threat that didn't exist before? So, for me anyway, the Navy's stated need for LFAS seems weak when compared to their strong determination to deploy it and to put a tremendous marine animal population at risk at the same time. One threat that the Navy might want to keep secret is the threat of unidentified submarine objects, or USOs. Most people do not realize the vast quantity of USO/UFO sightings. The UFO encounters I'm referring to here are the ones that occur over and around large bodies of water or have been observed exiting/entering the water. To get a quick overview of what I'm talking about, please visit the web site: http://www.hotyellow98.com/aquaalienz/aqua.alienz.html. While the Air Force is primarily concerned with UFOs in U.S. airspace, the Navy is concerned with UFOs they encounter over the world's oceans and USOs they encounter in the world's oceans. Therefore, the Navy could have as big or a bigger involvement in the UFO enigma than the Air Force's well documented involvement. You can see that it is not any leap of the imagination to consider USOs as a possible explanation for the perceived "threat" that is so critical that the Navy wants LFAS in the worse way. LFAS can be used defensively, as advertised, to detect a submarine or USO. I have not seen anything that would prevent LFAS sound to be phased as to create interference patterns where the sonic energy would be directionally/spatially concentrated. While this is not a "ray gun," as you say, it could possibly be considered an offensive weapon at this point. I hope this message sufficiently addresses your questions. Feel free to contact me if I can be of any further assistance. Best Regards, James Peters Assistant State Director Colorado Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) LINKS AVAILABLE AT: Atlantic cases 'Lightwheels' Ocean UFOs? The Triangle Creatures? Sub UFO base? Email Aqua Alienz {The Undersea UFO Homepage} Links pt. 2 (And Site Mission Statement) Oregon coast anomalies Odd undersea radar returns Lightwheels pt. 2 Jupiter's X-File moon Strange sea lights Ruins off Japanese coast 'Official' Sweedish USO Investigation USOs revisited Russian USO 'high strangeness' cases Atlantis Update/s 'In Nova Scotia, four boys reported seeing a black circular object dive out of the sky and disappear into the waters of the Cornwallis River dike on the afternoon of September 15 [1968]. A professor from the National Research Council's meteorite committee interviewed them, and the story appeared in the Halifax, Nova Scotia CHRONICLE-HERALD on September 18. The boys said the object first hovered in the air, "oscillating like a spinning top," before it dipped down into the water. They estimated it was about 15 feet across and 6 feet high. It made no noise, and the water didn't even splash when it submerged.' - JOHN KEEL The goal was to create a web-facility which the author could not find, even after many days of wrestling w/several search engines. This site, then, attempts to deal comprehensively - via painstakingly exhumed categorical links - w/ the nautical parallel to the UFO Phenomenon, 'USOs' (Unidentified Submarine Objects.) As an appropriate addendum, side items which are quite pertinent to the USO Phenom' will also be dealt w/. The author wishes to express gratitude to Ivan Sanderson, paranormal investigator and writer of the one singular definitive volume on the subject of USOs, 'Invisible Residents.'(Click on sunset image below to view Sanderson's one-of-a-kind essay on 'Marine Lightwheels,' a certain species of USO which has been reported for over a century by many sea-farers.) Unexplained Nautical Encounters! When the Great UFO Invasion began in the 1940s, dilligent researchers soon discovered UFO reports had been in fact frequent throughout the preceding centuries of recorded time as well. Records also school us now to the fact that UFOs of the sky have always been compensated - though not as voluminously - by 'UFOs of the sea.' Documentation of Anomolous Aquatic Phenomena (or 'USOs,' for Unidentified Submarine Objects) is far more difficult to come by than that of UFOs... Exemplary incident: In 1880, a pair of enormous 'Lightwheels' were seen by the commander and two others aboard a British steam-ship in the Persian Gulf. The 'Wheels' were seen spinning at the water's surface for 20 minutes, and were said to have made a swishing sound. (Can the skeptic's charge of 'looking for media attention' be leveled at these mariners, in 1880!?) ...Some have postulated that the aliens, the 'UFO occupants' - so familiar in the modern consciousness - are a species (or federation therof) who, when they arrived in smaller numbers many hundreds of years ago, established undersea bases of operation. It seems a peripheral theory indeed. But reports of USOs suggest it strongly, regardless of our cautious considerations. ...And furthermore, after all, precious little of this planet's hydrosphere has ever been explored by humankind. Yet. Click on images below for a continuation of USO-related hyperlinks. Encyclopedia of Strange Sea Creatures (Question Mark)-- Short history of Atlantis (Arrow)-- AQUA ALIENZ 2 (Gold Star)-- The Bermuda 'StarGate' ("LOOK")-- Oceans on Europa? (Stopwatch)-- Secret Antarctic Base? (Spiderweb)-- >From http://bradford-online.com/np/samizdat/index.html#enemy ENEMY UNKNOWN: SUBTERRANEAN WARFARE IN P.R. by Scott Corrales It is no secret that UFO activity in the waters surrounding Puerto Rico has been steadily increasing over the past few years. Sightings on land have multiplied tenfold since 1987, but that is nothing when compared to the number of UFO reports issuing from those who work the waters surrounding the island. A good number of reports gathered by many investigators over the course of the years seems to point to the existence of a submarine UFO base off the southwestern tip of Puerto Rico, as well as in the waters of the northern and eastern shores, which are some of the deepest on the planet. Whether it is, in fact, a base for nuts-and-bolts craft from another world or a convenient materialization point for interdimensional phenomena is beside the point. Things are taking place in Puerto Rico which have attracted a great deal of attention, both from the government and the public at large. Great balls of fire The western half of Puerto Rico has been the stage of endless UFO/religious phenomena for decades, ranging from the magnetic anomalies at the Maricao State Forest (a notorious "materialization" spot) to the recurring apparitions of the Blessed Virgin at Hormigueros and other communities in the region. The 1991 UFO flap over the inland community of Adjuntas was of such magnitude that it prompted the town's mayor to write President Bush to alert him to the situation. Thousands of people flocked to the town to catch a glimpse of the multicolored balls of light which executed fantastic maneuvers in the sky. These strange lights are nothing new. The legend of the three fishermen lost at sea during a storm only to see a bright light approach their boat and turn into a beautiful woman who identified herself as the Virgin Mary occurred in Caribbean waters, and this manifestation of the Virgin is venerated in Cuba. Christopher Columbus noted in his log that "a ball of fire fell into the waters" in this part of the ocean, an event which sent the ships compass spinning madly to the terror of the crew. Due to the fact that most commercial fishing activity is carried out at night, fishermen have a unique vantage point from which to observe this aspect of the UFO phenomenon. A grandmother fishing with her two nephews one evening told researchers about a large, brilliant UFO which hovered over her boat for some three minutes off Puerto Real. The woman saw silhouetted figures moving around the interior of the spherical device, which disappeared momentarily, leaving her and the children confused and frightened. On the other side of the Mona Passage, in the Dominican Republic, yet another grandmother had a UFO story to tell: she had been taken to an underwater base "at the bottom of the Mona Passage", where she underwent surgery at the hands of aliens. Her story, told to investigator Julio V. Ramírez, is reminiscent of the experiences of Costa Rican engineer Eduardo Castillo, who was taken to an underwater city during one of his encounters. The brightness of the objects is the most noticeable feature of the objects--the foremost thing that causes witnesses to realize that they are faced from something beyond their experience. A group of four fishermen were casting their nets in the early hours of the morning when they saw the lights emerge from the water. One of them, a man in his fifties, was so intimidated by the sight that he took refuge in the cabin of his fishing boat, refusing to discuss the matter ever again. Some of the men of that group went on to have three other sightings. Not wishing to seem gullible, they did not claim to have seen "flying saucers": they merely limited their comments to saying that what they'd witnessed was neither a helicopter, balloon nor plane. Not all sightings originated in the water. During the series of interviews conducted by Jorge Martín, it was revealed that many of the lights originated inland, from the mountains, appearing first as streaks of light in the night sky, like meteors, until rings of light and a visible structure came into view as the object descended within 500 to 600 feet above their boats. Rollie Irizarry, one of the interviewees declared: "My dad said that he jumped into the mangrove swamp, telling his fishing buddy "if they're that good, let them try to catch us in the swamp!". They honestly thought that they were done for, when they saw the thing swoop down over their yawl." Many of the fishermen, who work the entire littoral of western and southern P.R., were taken aback by the incidents to the extreme of not wanting to discuss their cases with professional investigators. Aircraft carriers on the spot The Navy has gone as far as to station an aircraft carrier group in the waters off the southwestern tip of Puerto Rico, Cabo Rojo. The fishermen were not at all surprised by this development: over the course of many evenings, they would see the nocturnal lights going about on their appointed rounds--shifting color from white to red and blue, spreading open like fans of color that would fill the night sky, or hovering intimidatingly over their fishing boats, shining beams of actinic light at them. Fighters from the carrier group stationed off-shore would later be involved, to their detriment, in one of the most intriguing UFO cases to be reported on the island. This increased military vigilance, however, has not contributed to a significant reduction in the number of sightings or close encounters. "Neither the police nor the soldiers will tell you what's going on," one of the fishermen interviewed remarked. "But you can be sure that they know." There is widespread belief that the efforts being made to staunch the flow of illegal drugs into the island are, in fact, closely related to monitoring the strange objects penetrating Puerto Rican airspace. Jorge Martín pointed out to this author that there is also an enigmatic Navy ship, the Gallatin, which is laden with advanced technology instrumentation and pays secret visits to Caribbean locations in which UFO activity has been detected. Said visits take place in 3-to 6-month intervals, and the crew complement is subjected to rigorous psychological testing every six months. When Spanish UFO researcher Antonio Ribera appeared on the Christina TV talk show in the fall of 1991, he was questioned as to the existence of "Ufoports" in certain areas of the planet which experience more than their fair share of sightings. He indicated that this possibility was not to be ruled out, particularly in the waters of what we call the Bermuda Triangle. Ribera presented a thorough report on these sensitive areas in his book Los doce triangulos de la muerte (Plaza y Janés, 1976). Does the government really know? The suspicions of the local fishermen aside, there exists a good deal of circumstantial evidence that points toward the fact that the government does have an idea of what is going on in the Mona Passage. In March of 1977, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico created a commission to study all matters pertaining to the presence of UFOs on the island--a Senate committee constituted by seven members. This was at a time when sightings were on an upward swing after the lull following the eventful years of the early '70s which received international attention. This body has had its hands full during the 80's, to be sure. Residents of the area have also witnessed the nocturnal and daylight activities of unidentified military aircraft and personnel in the region--and here is where the line between the real and the unreal becomes blurred. One witness to the aerial phenomenon also saw two military choppers--Hueys, by their description--fly into an open valley not far from the shore and promptly disappear, without even betraying the sound of the rotors, as if having engaged a cloaking device. Others have seen the "fireballs" turn into cargo planes and other mundane aerial objects. Those who witnessed this last phenomenon were unnerved by it. "I wondered why a helicopter landed on that particular field, because I knew that it was private land," Milton Vélez, another resident, told Jorge Martin, describing an incident from the summer of 1991. "But, I thought, well, they're probably doing some sort of experiment there. A number of men in olive drab uniforms and black berets got out of the chopper and began to walk around, pointing long tubes at the ground that looked like shotguns or metal detectors to me. There were no emblems on their clothes or on their helicopter, but they were military, without a doubt. They spread out toward the right and the left, and milled around for about 20 to 30 minutes. I went to fetch my binoculars, but I wasn't able to make out their faces. The chopper finally took off and headed southward, toward the sea." Could this covert military activity be a result of the controversial loss of two F-14 Tomcats during an "attack" upon a massive UFO in May 1988? The sequence of photographs taken of this even by abductee Amaury Rivera has been analyzed by number of NASA and civilian experts: they show the maneuvers of an armed fighter just after daybreak around a large, circular object with a star-like pattern and protuberances on its lower hull. One of the fighters, from the BCF 33 "Starfighter" squadron aboard the USS America, was absorbed into (or vaporized by) the UFO. Months after that incident, and another one in which a Delta-shaped UFO absorbed another fighter before the eyes of thousands of witnesses, interceptors were seen flying over populated areas with their full complement of missiles. The Nuclear card Toward the end of October 1984, two commercial cargo vessels arrived at the small port of Arroyo on the southern shore of Puerto Rico, which faces the Caribbean Sea. The ships, Nautilus II and Caribbean Adventurer, unloaded a cargo allegedly "to be used by NASA", although its real purpose remains unknown. Word began to circulate among the ranks of UFO investigators that the equipment was space-connected, but hardly NASA related. Nuclear weapons, the story went, were being tested in Puerto Rico against UFO bases allegedly nestled in the deep cavern systems that riddle the island. The story was decried as a groundless rumor: the Treaty of Tlatelolco, banning the deployment of nuclear weapons in Latin America, had been ratified in 1967 by the United States, and the Senate had, in 1981, approved of the inclusion of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico into the Nuclear Free Zone guaranteed by the treaty. The fact that the rumor included the "nonexistent" but ever-present UFOs made it only worse. But the very same naysayers were given something to think about when, on February 15, 1985, months after the arrival of the "NASA cargo" at Arroyo, the New York Times made it known that Reagan Administration planners had included Puerto Rico in a list of military emergency sites in case of a nuclear war . The nature of the emergency was left open, but it clearly involved the stationing of nuclear devices or the deployment of systems already in place. The Institute for Policy Studies issued a lengthy statement, stating:"...There is real danger here [in Puerto Rico]. There is a military nuclear infrastructure so huge and complex that it has, in some ways, more power than policies. Those bases, facilities and plans obligate us to move in a certain direction in a conflict." If this part of the rumor was true, what kept the second half--the one involving unidentified flying objects--from being true as well? A quiet battle against the UFO phenomenon has been conducted for the past few years in the blue skies over Puerto Rico, which has been notorious for the sheer volume of sightings that have occurred there since the 1950s, and particularly during the 1970s. The sightings have been so numerous that they prompted the Civil Defense Agency of PR to issue Investigative Directive No. 1-91 on October 7th, 1991, which reads: "In the past and more recently there have been sightings of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and unidentified submarine objects (USOs) in the territory of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico. Pursuant to Article 6, clause F of Law No. 22 of 23 June 1976, we have deemed that is fitting and proper for the Puerto Rico Civil Defense to investigate and study cases involving sightings of unidentified flying objects so as to determine that they pose no threat to the safety of the Puerto Rican people..." Into this highly charged atmosphere of UFO conflict and government installation of nuclear devices came Project Excalibur, a device to be employed in the destruction of subsurface UFO installations being perfected at the Experimental Weapons division of LANL (Los Alamos, New Mexico). The prototypes were to be used in Puerto Rico before being used "elsewhere". This experimentation, construed by many to be the actual offensive against the UFO bases, has resulted in a number of subterranean detonations and an increase in the number of tremors felt on the island in the past decade. On May 31, 1987, one such detonation was estimated as having occurred at a depth of 81,000 feet below Laguna Cartagena: there were cracks on the ground and noxious blue smoke was vented from the earth's interior through them. UFOs were seen on evening of the explosion in the lagoon's environs, slowly scanning the area as if checking for damage. Cartagena, a kidney-shaped body of water, has a long history of being at the center of UFO activity, possibly providing an entry/egress point to the underground installations. The alleged deployment of Project Excalibur coincided with the verifiable plan to deploy a type of tactical nuke or demolition mine known as the B-57, probably similar to those used in Western Europe as part of the NATO "tripwire" against any advance by the now defunct Warsaw Pact's forces. Tactical nuclear devices (kiloton-yield) go back to the days of the infamous "Davy Crockett"--an atomic bazooka a soldier was supposed to sling off his APC and fire at an approaching tank. These warheads are stored at the Roosevelt Roads Naval Base along with "in transit" weapons and specialized nuclear underwater demolition charges for the use of highly-trained Navy SEAL personnel. The fact that the smallest of the Greater Antilles has been used as a testing station by the military cannot be overlooked either: Chemical weapons have been tested in the Luquillo Experimental Rainforest (El Yunque), and the contraceptive pill was tested on Puerto Rican women in the 1950s. Project Excalibur and all that surrounds it, then, no longer seems to be so improbable. The island is in fact riddled with caves, particularly the western end of the Cordillera Central, the range that splits the island in two. The caves found along the Camuy River extend along for some eight miles, and rank among the most important cavern systems in the world, and every passing year adds a newly discovered cave to the system. The discovery of the series of caves known as the Angeles system in 1972 coincided with the onset of the great UFO flap of '72-74. With almost 2000 caves scattered over an area of 100 x 35 miles, one can say that Puerto Rico is virtually hollow inside. An excellent place to hide a squadron of UFOs. The equipment utilized to bore out these deep tunnels does not belong to the realm of science fiction, either. Upon completion of the Channel Tunnel linking the United Kingdom and France, the colossal tunnel borers were encased in concrete and buried in the tunnel's sides, since they were much too large to bring back to the surface. Author Richard Sauder has also discussed the existence of "subterrenes", both conventional and nuclear, employed in the perforation of bedrock for the creation of underground facilities. Puerto Rico also boasts unexploited deposits of strategic minerals such as nickel, cobalt and copper, which are all vital to the nuclear weapons industry, even after the demise of the Soviet Union and the current lack of a clear-cut nuclear deterrent policy. As it so happens, UFOs (whatever they may be) have shown an interest in these metals: Since 1987, UFO sightings have been concentrated around the copper-rich municipality of Adjuntas, nested amid the mountains of the Cordillera Central. There exists considerable photo and video evidence of landing marks and nocturnal activity in the area, including the destruction of enormous steel plates used to cover the test pits dug into the copper mines. The scaling down of the arms race after the break-up of the USSR has also lessened fears of an East-West nuclear exchange, but what of the nuclear devices already in place, particularly those in Puerto Rico? Perhaps they will remain there, readily available for another no less ominous purpose. Conclusion The victims of a recent abduction experience--a couple and their three children--in this part of the island were told by their captors that there were indeed bases near the island of Mona and south of the Cabo Rojo lighthouse. While this has not been confirmed by physical means, it is curious that the string of earth tremors that has been affecting the entire island of Puerto Rico is located in the Mona Passage. These tremors have registered 4.5 and higher on the Richter scale. The earthquake whose epicenter was located five miles beneath the controversial Laguna Cartagena was dismissed by geologists as routine seismic activity, but residents of the area who felt it described it a "tons of dynamite being set off" and reported bluish fumes emerging from the lagoon's waters. There can be no question that the island's unique political situation--an unincorporated territory of the U.S. functioning as an autonomous "commonwealth"--has enabled the military to exercise greater freedom in the pursuit of its goals. Properties (such as the territory surrounding Laguna Cartagena) can be condemned by the military with little effort, whereas similar efforts in the U.S. mainland would meet vociferous public opposition. Soldiers can aim weapons freely against unsuspecting civilians who happen to stumble upon their concealed installations. It has also been noted that the underground detonations are not restricted to Cartagena: Marcial and Viola Cruz, a couple residing near El Yunque Rainforest, have experienced subsurface explosions since 1987 at both El Yunque and El Verde. As recently as October 1993, the Cruzes felt four astoundingly loud explosions in the vicinity of La Mina Waterfall. The witnesses, who felt the ground quake beneath their feet, are certain that these detonations were subterranean. Unlike the conspiracies which have been studied in the U.S., there is no "paper trail" leading to government involvement, merely tell-tale actions and statements, such as the unusual comment made by congressman Bennett Johnson, who stated that regardless of the political destiny selected by Puerto Ricans (full statehood or independence), the U.S. would never relinquish its control over its Roosevelt Roads facility nor El Yunque Rainforest. Some might consider such a statement damning enough: proof that nuclear weapons, outlawed by treaty, are being deployed in Puerto Rico against something or someone, extraterrestrial or not. In the meantime, those who work and live by the sea continue to see strange lights in the sky, and wonder. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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