-Caveat Lector-
Is it your contention that one should be free to discuss issues, such as the
"immorality of homosexuality" and other related issues openly and in public?
If so, I agree. Whatever one is in agreement with or opposed to one should
be free to discuss and proclaim. The libertarian view would hold that you
have no right to infringe upon my right to be free from your interference,
and certainly that you have no right to impose your views, by enacting laws
for example, onto me and my beliefs because they do not agree with yours.
There are issues of respect toward fellow human beings that should be
observed in all of this, unless, of course, you are a sociopath (I use the
YOU in a general sense, not directed at you individually) then you have no
such constraints. One must be able discuss ones beliefs in a manner that
does not deny the inherent humanity in the people that one is opposed to.
This is something that in practice is nearly impossible to do, thus
governments and communities, in order to preserve this state of societal
politeness pass laws against such behavior or make it a taboo topic and "make
fun of" those who hold the opposing views. This is not the ideal. Typically
discussion and opposition degrade to name calling and then to violence
between opposing groups, because of such strongly held positions. That is
not the ideal either. Incidentally on the topic of taxation, this country
had adequate policing, military, etc. before there was a national tax. Why
not now?
In a message dated 11/29/99 1:34:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> although the libertarian system has much to commend it, and of all the
> secular systems it is the most attractive, it fails on a number of key
> areas.
> Primarily it avoids the whole issue of community.
> It imposes on the state that people are not allowed to express deep seated
> convictions in a public arena and ultimately denying freedom of
association.
> a society without common value system will remain at war with itself and
> will fight until a certain value system predominates. Also it has no
ability
> to define values systems. What purpose is there in honesty except if it
> contradicts the power of the state.
>
> If liberterians are consistent, then there should be no tax, if no tax who
> polices, if no police how are conflicts settled, if there is no state, who
> is to stop invasion. Libertarianism will be not self consistent and
> unmanageable.
>
>
> In SA we have moved from one form of racist corporatist state to another
> form of racist corpoatist state(with a 4 year liberal interlude). In
> multiracial state with strong group identities, the libertarian ideal again
> falls apart.
>
> Also all government systems have a fundamental world view that is based on
> faith. those who think that they are fully bound by reason are usually
those
> most deluded by their own faith.
>
> John
>
>
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