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I read so much American propaganda on
the internet, (apologies for being an inferior race - British), it's so good to
read this, so you are not all as stupid as your leader, there's hope for the
human race still then, don't give up even if you can't be in
Seattle. Love & Hope.
from Nigel.
the mind is like a parachute - it works best when it's open
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Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 4:58
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Subject: [CTRL] The Emperor's
Clothes
-Caveat Lector-
from:alt.conspiracy
As, always,
Caveat Lector
Om
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Click Here: <A
HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:577343">The Emperor's
Clothes
(These people seem legit)</A>
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<A
HREF="http://www.emperors-clothes.com/">http://www.emperors-clothes.com/</A
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Contributing
Editor Todd Emoff
is an Investment Advisor in his 40s. Todd never
protested US foreign
policy, went to demonstrations, or wrote articles
against foreign
adventures before the bombing of Serbia began in
March.
"This was the first time I saw people being killed by us. This
has
changed my view about US foreign policy and the military.
"I
studied East European history, I know what happened in the Balkans,
in the
twentieth century, and when they started demonizing the Serbian
people it
was amazing. In general, the rewriting of history, the sheer
dishonesty of
the reporting has been amazing The portrayal of the
Serbian people as
fascists. Amazing.
I'm also a student of Jewish history and they sort
of intersect there
because the Serbian people stood up for the Jewish
people at great
cost in blood. Entirely different from the rest of the
area. The
Romanian Jews were not even citizens, the same in Bulgaria,
Hungary,
but in Serbia there was always better treatment of the Jews, there
was
no pattern of discrimination in Serbia. The point is that these
are
not people with a pattern of intolerance so I knew from the
get-go
that the Serbian people were not the way the media was portraying
them
and when they started bombing Serbia I had to take action. Plus I
knew
what a good liar Clinton was. People equate this with the
Lewinsky
thing, but it is not that, it is way more than that, I had watched
him
lying for years. So when this whole thing broke I knew
instinctively
that they would be lying to drum up support because that's
just how
they operate, that's their modus operandus.
In Graduate
School I happened to have a Serbian girlfriend - she was
born in Belgrade -
and I got to know her family. These are just very
nice people. Not
intolerant, not at all the way they're being
portrayed. People do not want
to believe the extent that the media is
lying. I wouldn't call myself an
absolute expert on the Balkans
because that is an immense field, but if you
have some familiarity
with the history, you know it's true. It's quite
methodical in the
media. Everything bad is attributed to the Serbs and any
achievement
or good trait is simply denied. For example, on TV the other
night,
they made the great scientist Nikolai Tesla a Croatian - he was from
a
Serbian area of what is now Croatia. You have to understand
the
Croatians slaughtered almost a million Serbs in Nazi
concentration
camps in World War Two so this was like saying Salk, the
creator of
the polio vaccine, was a German, that he grew up under the
Nazis. I
mean the rewriting of history that I have seen is amazing. This
has to
make you read all foreign policy news with a much more critical
eye.
You know, I was a very pro-military person and I guess I still am,
but
now I see how important it is that its used properly, and it's
being
used very carelessly. It's a very dangerous thing, used that way.
You
know, it's funny; Clinton more or less said the same thing the
other
day, it was a speech to the State Department or some such, and he
said
that we are very powerful and we have to be very careful how we
use
our military that we don't just go in and use force first and
I
thought, this man can stand there and tell us anything! This
is
straight out of [George' Orwell's book] 1984. War is peace. Freedom
is
Slavery."
Contributing Editor Vera Watkins
works in a
Chicago library. "I help people find their roots," she
says. "I traced my
husband's back to Charlemagne. Mine are all potato
peasants." And as to how
she evolved to the point where she's doing
research for
Emperors-clothes.com?
"I was a Democrat. I was registered Democratic.
No more. I'll never
vote for a politician again. I was a late bloomer when
it came to
doubting my government. I never doubted the press. I even
believed the
stories about the incubator babies. You remember, when they
wanted to
build support for attacking Iraq and they had this Kuwaiti
woman,
supposedly independent, testify before Congress that she had
witnessed
the Iraqi troops supposedly pulling babies out of incubators -
dumping
them - killing them and she was just an innocent bystander. It
turned
out - we found out later - she was the daughter of the
Kuwaiti
ambassador. It was all a lie. They wanted US
intervention.
"The point is, the Iraqis, Saddam Hussein, had to be
demonized so
people would go along with the slaughter. And I bought it. I
was so
gullible. And then came Yugoslavia. My father had been in the
Royal
Army, the Yugoslav Army during World War II. He was imprisoned in
a
German prisoner of war camp and after the war he came here. He
wasn't
a nationalist. He married my mother, who was a German, for God's
sake.
"After Iraq they started demonizing the Serbian people in the
press.
With the Serbs it was the ridiculously high numbers of rapes which
the
media blamed on the Serbs but nobody else was doing it. It
was
ridiculous. When they started printing trash like that I knew
they
were swine. And in Bosnia, one day it was 30,000 killed and the
next
day it was 200,000. And the same this time. Now I get my
information
from the Internet. When I see Dan Blather, etc., I turn the
station. I
go to original sources and see for myself, to a million places
except
the mainstream media. And politicians? Politicians are all
liars."
Contributing Editor George Thompson
is a
40-something Washington, DC attorney. Politically, he considers
himself a
Libertarian. "What we're about? People behind this Website
site may
disagree about a number of things but we all agree about the
absolute
travesty of what is happening with Yugoslavia, and this cuts
across
traditional lines of left and right, Democratic and Republican,
and what
the site is about is providing a voice for those of us who
oppose the
continuing war against the Serbs and other citizens
of
Yugoslavia.
"Because what we're facing now is a crucial question:
are we a
Republic or an Empire? We're going to see over and over calls
for
intervention for 'humanitarian' reasons but really what it comes
down
to is is the US going to become a new British or Roman Empire and
face
the same end as both those empires? Or will it remain true to
its
founding document, and not attempt to dictate to the rest of the
world
but instead live in peace?
"The rewriting of NATO's charter to
allow out-of-area offensive
operations - this is all being done very
deliberately. However, some
day somebody we attack is going to be able to
fight back a with little
more success than the Serbs and then people in the
U.S. are going to
wonder 'What were we thinking?'
"We haven't faced
that kind of war for a generation. People think
war's a Nintendo game and
the only people who die are the 'bad' guys.
For God's sake our leaders have
starved half a million Iraqis and not
even given it a moment's thought. We
are very quick to say the Serbian
people have some sort of national
collective guilt for what they
supposedly did in Kosovo -- which turns out
to be some kind of figment
of the State Department's imagination -- but by
that token doesn't
America have collective guilt for the sanctions against
Iraq, and for
that matter Serbia? What kind of humanitarianism is it that
allows
this to be done to millions of people?
"Some Americans may
not see these contradictions but the rest of the
world does and views us as
bullies - and hypocritical and inconsistent
ones at that. I'm afraid we're
riding high now but this is exactly the
type of attitude that causes
nations to get together and decide that
we are the
enemy."
Contributing Editor Greg Elich
is a leftist. He
lives and works in Ohio, where he is in charge of a
computer database. Off
the job he's a passionate investigative
researcher. Greg has just returned
from a two week trip to Yugoslavia.
You can read about that trip and Greg's
views in the interview,
"Bombed because we refuse to be
slaves."
Contributing Editor Barbara Gruber
is a
psycho-therapist in Massachussetts and Rhode Island.
Editor
Jared Israel
owns a small business in the Boston area. In a previous
life he was a
leader of the student anti-war movement (Vietnam) but he
dropped out
of politics for good in the mid-1970s and became
Respectable.
"Or so I thought. I stayed away for 20 years. What finally
got me was
the bombing of that pill factory in Sudan. I found the media
coverage
completely dishonest. Not just inaccurate, dishonest. I was
already
upset with the NY Times over its stories about Yugoslavia. I read
the
paper very carefully and it was obvious, from internal evidence,
that
the powers-that-be had targeted the Serbian people and were
using
various proxy forces to break up Yugoslavia. And the news
reports
created a whole substitute reality. I think they count on
people
reading in a hurry, skipping over things.
"I knew Yugoslavia
is - has been throughout this century - the key to
stability in the
Balkans. So trying to break up Yugoslavia was a clear
tip-off. The US and
Germany were making a play for the entire area.
Trying to corner the
market, so to speak.
"Then the Times lied about the Sudan bombing and
the whole way the
government and the media handled that told me: now that
there is no
Soviet Union to hold the U.S. government in check, they figure
they
can gor for hegemony. I wrote an expose, sent it to a few
people.
[See: Upside-Down Journalism] And then came the long drawn-out
crisis
in October '98 where Holbrooke kept threatening to bomb Yugoslavia.
I
started looking around the Internet for other people who were
upset.
"I see the hand of the US government in that Islamic
Fundamentalist
rebellion in Russia, in [Taiwanese leader] Lee's abrupt
change to a
policy of provoking China, in the fighting between India and
Pakistan.
The US is definitely involved against the Angolan and
Congolese
governments in Africa, and is deeply involved in the repression
in
Columbia. If you count up the conflicts going on now around the
world
that the US is overtly or covertly involved in, it begins to look
like
the start of World War III.
What gives me hope is, many more
people - probably the majority of
people in other countries but also many
more people in the US - are
becoming aware. And by the way,
Emperors-clothes.com now has readers
in 34 [now 42!] countries."
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Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace
Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
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