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McVEIGH'S MOM ON MOST-UNLIKED LIST AFTER COMMENTS
by Bill Johnson
American Reporter Correspondent
Oklahoma City, Okla.
OKLAHOMA CITY -- Timothy McVeigh undoubtedly would rank at the top of any
Oklahoma most-hated list for blowing up the federal building, but comments by
his mother in a television interview this week got her a pretty prominent
spot.

"Let's get it out of our minds," Mickey Hill said in the interview. "Let's
get on with our lives." After all, she said, the bombing that killed 168
people happened four and half years ago. And McVeigh was convicted of killing
only eight people, she said.

Hill, 55, in the interview on WTSP-TV in Tampa-St. Petersburg, Fla.,
suggested that the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil ranked along with
airplane crashes and the murder trial of O.J. Simpson.

"It was a big event, yeah, but so was the O.J. Simpson case, so was the
bombing (of the World Trade Center) in New York," Hill said.

"Every bombing or shooting is a big case," said Hill, who was identified as a
dishwasher in a Pensacola, Fla., restaurant. The interview was replayed on
Oklahoma City's KWTV.

"Plane crashes. There's more people killed in a plane crash than was killed
in Oklahoma City," Hill said. "And yet these people think they're the only
victims?

"I feel sorry for them. But let's face it: This happened 4=BD years ago. This
happened four and a half years ago. Let's get it out of our minds. Let's get
on with our lives."

Bombing survivors and relatives of those killed said they weren't about to
forget.

"Let her walk a mile in my shoes," said Kathleen Treanor. "I had to bury my
baby in pieces. She has no right to tell me how I should feel."

Treanor's daughter, Ashley Eckles, 4, and her mother-in-law and
father-in-law, Luther and LaRue Treanor, were killed in the bombing.

Dennis Purifoy, one of the survivors, said the horror of the bombing must be
remembered to keep it from happening again.

"People need to remember and learn a lesson from what happened here," Purifoy
said.

In addition to the 168 who died in the April 19, 1995, bombing, more than 500
people were injured and some of them will never completely recover.

McVeigh was charged with driving a rented truck loaded with a fertilizer bomb
to Oklahoma City, parking it outside the federal building and touching off
the explosives. Among those killed were 19 children in a second-floor
day-care center.

Under federal law, McVeigh could be tried for first-degree murder only in the
deaths of eight federal agents who were on duty in the building at the time
of the blast. He was convicted by a federal jury in Denver and was sentenced
to die.

Terry Nichols, a friend McVeigh met in the Army, was convicted by another
Denver jury of conspiracy and eight counts of involuntary manslaughter. He is
appealing his conviction and life sentence and the Oklahoma County district
attorney plans to try Nichols in state court here on 160 counts of
first-degree murder.

The district attorney's plan has driven a wedge between the bombing survivors
and the relatives of those who died. Some want a state trial to be held while
others don't want to have to go through the emotional turmoil of another
trial.

The Daily Oklahoman has come out against a state trial.

Hill and McVeigh's father, Bill McVeigh, separated in 1984 and were divorced
in 1986. Tim, who was 16 when his parents separated, remained with his father
in New York State.

Stephen Jones, McVeigh's defense attorney, called her comments "unfortunate."
But, he said, those comments should be considered in context with the fact
Hill has a history of emotional troubles.

She was involuntarily committed to a psychiatric hospital in February 1997
after reportedly suffering a psychotic episode. She used the name Mickey
Frazer at the time.

Hill recalled in the interview that McVeigh's father, when he saw an artist's
sketch of a bombing suspect, asked whether it might be Tim. Hill said it was
possible that her son "may have" been the one who masterminded the bombing
plot.

"Honest to God, I don't know," Hill said.

Hill said in her son's trial that Tim was "a loving son and a happy child as
he grew up. He was a child any mother could be proud of. I still, to this
very day, cannot believe he could have caused this devastation.

"There are too many unanswered questions and loose ends. He has seen human
loss in the past and it has torn him apart. He is not the monster he has been
portrayed as. ... He is a human being, just as we all are."

Hill said in the tv interview she knew that some people put the ultimate
blame for the bombing on her.

"What I don't understand is, how differently should I have raised him?" she
asked. "He never got in trouble in school. He never drank beer or liquor. He
never smoked. He was never in trouble.

"When he joined the Army, he was a happy-go-lucky kid. Eight years later,
he's arrested for bombing a building. How would you feel? I mean, I don't
feel responsible for something that happened eight years after he left home."

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