-Caveat Lector- -------- forwarded message(s) -------- From: "Roy L. Beavers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: emfguru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:42:50 -0600 (CST) Subj: Needed!! Data on cell phone proliferation (Hargreaves).. ........Courtesy of EMF-L...... Roy Beavers (EMFguru) [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW!!! Website <www.emfguru.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: nigel^E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: R Beavers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:08:17 +0000 Subj: Data on cell phone proliferation Dear Roy I'm looking for data or statistics revealing the proliferation of cell phone technology. For example the historical and estimated growth of handset and tower numbers, perhaps even by country or continent, if not globally. Do you have any ready numbers up your sleeve, or sites I could look at for these figures? I would also need references to the origin of the data, wherever it comes from. Best wishes Nigel Hargreaves PS> Only 2 replies (Alasdair and Ingrid) to my recent mail about why not more research is being done on real cell phone wave profiles. I guess folks, like me, don't have the answer to such simple questions. Are we being stitched up by the industry, and mugged in the lab? ~~~~~~~ From: "Roy L. Beavers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: emfguru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:31:07 -0600 (CST) Subj: RE: Needed!! Data on cell phone proliferation (Hargreaves)(Baumann).. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Baumann, Joseph J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Roy L. Beavers'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:26:10 -0600 Subj: RE: Needed!! Data on cell phone proliferation (Hargreaves).. Possibly Art Furstenberg might have this data. Since he is at the helm of the legal battle I'm sure he would have data. Locating him will be a problem but not impossible. US Mail is appropriate as he does not use computer or cell phone etc since he feels that it violates his values and beliefs. Roy, do you have his address. Also, how about Micro-Wave News out of NYC. Joe Baumann ~~~~~~~ From: "Roy L. Beavers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: emfguru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:14:37 -0600 (CST) Subj: Data concerning cell phone tower numbers (Scherer).. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Wolfgang W.Scherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:42:21 +0000 Subj: your EMF _L message Dear Nigel Those data are somehow "closely guarded" -- others, even city planners tried the same before you -- without success. The explosion of the tower-network is a known fact -- but the government offices at least in our countries treat those data in total as confidential (claiming privacy protection in concern of the industry). You may be able as local resident to obtain a very slow and incomplete response from your local office, but they have permanently to date "sabotaged" the compilation of numbers of towers and the EMF densities to show a map for instance (maybe only because they failed to obtain them themselves -- in the rush to sell licenses). In Canada some people are said to try now using the "Freedom of Information Act" to force our government to disclose all such data -- eventually to admit they don't have any -- because they neglected to follow their own rules themselves -- which would then be a clear violation of the regulations -- since those require such data to be obtained and checked BEFORE approving a license -- exactly that has not be done in many cases and they grapple now how to hide their obvious negligence. But admission of that -- which consequently would mean having to suspend or revoke licenses -- could have severe "astronomical" compensation claims on part of the industry against the government -- so the cellphone compamies have the government in their pockets -- "moneywise" It was a simple "push over" and we pay all for that -- but who was it who said: "NOTHING in politics happens without a plan" (Roosevelt??) Therefore you can be assured someone has planned that "push-over" and executed it with near perfection ..... Good luck in your search Wolfgang Wolfgang W. 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