-Caveat Lector- .............................................................. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Ian Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Spiked Hoax Returns Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 6:00 PM WEBSITE THAT THE FBI SPIKED IS REOPENED (c) 12/02/99 Ian Williams Goddard The FBI recently went into panic mode and intimidated Mike Zieper's Internet Service Provider to shutdown his website. While the ISP caved in at first, they have since allowed his site to go back up. The furor was over a video that Zieper claimed came from his brother in the army. The video claims to be a U.S. Army briefing pertaining to an Army plot to incite riots at Time Square as the New Year (Y2K) arrives. Here's the page: http://crowdedtheater.com/index1.html About the video, Zieper's site still states: "I got it from my cousin Steve who's in the army. ...If it's real, then we're in really big trouble." But there's nothing to indicate that Zieper himself created it. A report from Zieper's ISP, and from Wired, defines the video without question as a "spoof" created by Zieper: http://wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,32746,00.html Zeiper's ISP: http://www.becamation.com/crowded.htm If it was a hoax, it was fraud and thus the FBI had grounds to take action to shut it down, although perhaps not in the way they did. But if it's a hoax, why would the ISP allow it to go back into operation? It seems to me that if Zieper created the video, but is to this day saying on his webpage "I got it from my cousin Steve who's in the army," and claims not to know if it's true, then it's a lie and is fraud. Zieper's ISP, BECamation, said they got complaints (http://www.becamation.com/crowded.htm) about their having taken down the hoax. They said in their press release (http://rumormillnews.com/pulled.htm) that when the FBI contacted them, they already knew the video "was a farce." I think that they should get complaints about putting it back up! Put it back up, BUT with a statement that it's FICTION. If it doesn't say it's fiction, they're perpetrating fraud. Here's exactly what the page has said and says to this day: ==== http://www.crowdedtheater.com/index1.html ==== CROWDEDTHEATER.COM Is there going to be a Military Takeover of New York City on New Years Eve 1999? I don't know too much about this tape you are about to see. I got it from my cousin Steve who's in the army. He said that copies of this tape are floating around the base, and nobody knows who made it. If it's fake, then there's nothing to worry about. If it's real, then we're in really big trouble. I posted it with Real Video G2, but it should work with other versions of Real Video. Go here for a free download of the Real Video software. Click here to see the tape. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===================================================== IAN: The page clearly states that the presenter, who is the site owner and the person who has since admitted that he made the tape, instead received the tape. It also clearly indicates that the presenter is unsure if the content of the tape is what it purports to be, which is a U.S. Army briefing. Both of those allegations made by the site are FALSE according to the presenter and to his ISP, which means they're willfully promoting a lie. I'm all for free speech, but not free fraudulent speech. It seems to me that there's a confusion here between free speech and freedom to make fraudulent claims. All they need to do is state that the video is fictional. ------------------------------------------------------------ GODDARD'S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm ____________________________________________________________ Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *********************************** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists & E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, & resources. 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