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Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
The CIA and Military Mind Control Research:
Building the Manchurian Candidate

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A lecture by Dr. Colin Ross


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CKLN-FM 88.1 Toronto - International Connection Mar 16, 23,
30, 1997

Wayne Morris:

<p>Good morning, welcome to International Connection. It's a very
special show this morning. This is the beginning of a journey we
are about to take on this programme. A journey into a gruesome
world of mind control experiments by government-financed doctors
in Canada and the United States. Inhuman experiments performed on
humans, children for the most part. For the next 8 months on the
show we will be airing interviews with survivors of mind control
experiments and ritual abuse, lectures and interviews with
therapists, researchers, and writers who are dealing with the
legacy of mind control. </p>

<p>Specifically we'll be looking at the documented history of
U.S. CIA and military mind control experimental programs. Also
the struggles of survivors to get compensation from the CIA and
the Canadian government in particular govt-funded mind control
experiments at McGill University under Dr. Ewen Cameron. We'll be
hearing the accounts of survivors of horrific experiments
involving electroshock, drugs, brain implants, sensory
deprivation, psychic driving, forced sleep, ritual and sexual
abuse. We'll also be discussing the military and intelligence
uses of mind control including theft, assassination, and sexual
blackmail using child victims. We'll be talking about the uses of
creating MPD in people for mind control programming and its links
to the MP effects of ritual abuse. We'll be discussing with
therapists to talk about the effects of severe trauma, sexual
abuse, recovered memories and the 'False Memory Syndrome' </p>

<p>Many people listening may be aware of Dr. Cameron's projects
at the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal but this wasn't the
only location. The experimental projects were carried out all
across Canada and of course in the United States. </p>

<p>The first segment of this radio series Mind Control in Canada
features a lecture by Dr. Colin Ross to colleagues about the
history of the U.S. CIA and military mind control programs. Dr.
Ross is a Canadian psychiatrist specializing in MPD currently
practicing in Texas. He has researched this subject for many
years and is currently writing a book about mind control. He has
obtained thousands of CIA documents through the Freedom of
Information Act and through these documents, Dr. Ross is able to
prove the US government has been using MPD and Manchurian
Candidates operationally since WWII.. and it doesn't stop there. </p>

<p>This lecture is part one of three one-hour segments to kick
off this radio series Mind Control in Canada on 88.1 CKLN. </p>

<p>And now Dr. Colin Ross: </p>

<p>[Dr. Colin Ross, M.D. <br>
The CIA and Military Mind Control Research: Building the
Manchurian Candidate<br>
Lecture given at 9th Annual Western Clinical Conference on Trauma
and Dissociation, April 18, 1996, Orange County, California] </p>

<p>I'm very very happy that you are all here. This is the first
time that I have talked on this stuff in public, and the problem
was that Kevin made a little mistake on the schedule. He didn't
get the title quite right. This is actually a performance art
piece. It's entitled: &quot;Psychiatrist Trying to Stay Calm and
Casual&quot;. But before we go any further, by the way, there are
a couple of messages here for people who are supposed to call
home: William C. Hollinger (if he's here) - he's supposed to call
his lab in Pittsburgh. L. Wilson Green, you're supposed to call
your lab at Edgeware Arsenal. And Ewen Cameron, there's a message
to call Leonard in Montreal. So why is it I am talking about
this, and what is it I am trying to say here? Well, one
explanation is no one has the faintest idea what I am talking
about and I am here talking about it because I am a little wacky.
Hopefully by the end of the day, that won't be the conclusion.
However, that is a conclusion that unhappily is in print in
various esteemed locations such as the British Journal of
Psychiatry, Esquire Magazine, and Richard's Ofshe's book, and a
CBC film. It's been a very curious experience to go through this
little journey that Kevin just alluded to, which is the same
journey that we have all gone through if we have heard this from
patients. It's starts off back in the remote past, 1981-85, when
I am a psychiatric resident. I mentioned yesterday that in four
years of medical school and four years of residency, I have had
more multiple choice questions on Lesch-Nyhan Syndrome, which
just to remind you, as you all know, is an inherited deficiency
of enzyme hypoxanthine-guanine phosphoribosltransferase-I had
more questions on that syndrome in my four years of medical
school and four years of psychiatric residency than on childhood
sexual abuse, and more teaching. So then somewhere in the course
of the residency I get up to speed on dissociative disorders and
connect them to childhood abuse and read up on the literature and
get a little bit grounded, and the avalanche of MPD cases starts
for me in late 1985 into 1986, and I think I have kind of (a
little bit) got what's going on and some person comes in and
starts telling me about their father was killed by the Mafia and
they were taken to a child prostitution brothel and then they
were involved in satanic ritual stuff. So I go &quot;Gee&quot;,
no books, no literature, nobody ever heard of it, nobody talks
about it, totally in outer space, no idea what to do, which way
to turn. I go to the Eastern Regional Conference, go to Chicago,
find out a little bit, start getting a little bit grounded and
the first couple of cases, my personal reaction is,
&quot;Gawh!&quot; - this sure sounds real, could be real, it's
pretty scary. Wonder if I should let my kids out on Halloween or
not. And then the sort of basic experience is whatever percent of
SRA is actually real, it is clear that we got into some sort of
hysteria wave in society in general, and in the profession, and a
lot of people went a bridge or two too far on their journey, and
we had to reign ourselves back in. So the time course now is, in
my training, there is no sexual abuse at all. It doesn't exist.
It's not relevant because it doesn't exist. Then it goes to,
well, it exists, but it's not really all that relevant and then
there's these sorts of outlaw gadfly sort of people who are into
dissociative disorders who aren't accepted by the mainstream.
Then the dissociative disorders people from a foundation of
reality that was hidden go off into outer space on this-it wasn't
alien abductions, but it was still outer space-on this ritual
abuse stuff. Then they sort of come back to earth and get a
little bit grounded-and the next thing you know it's all this
government experiments, mind control stuff. So if you follow the
pattern, what should be the case is just another hysteria wave.
And the more you look at it, the more it will just dissolve, and
we will all settle down and forget about it. Well the pattern
didn't work. Because when I systematically started looking into
CIA military mind control, the more I looked, the more solid
reality there was there. And as you will see as we go through
these slides, and through this talk, it's a completely different
deal from SRA. Somewhere out there in the justice system, there
may actually be objective evidence where somebody has actually
busted a SRA cult. If there is, that information is not generally
publicly available to us. It is a fact that we have not nailed
down human ritual sacrifice cults in North America if they exist.
So it's all conjecture. Today I will prove to you, completely
locked down, documented, proven, beyond dispute discussion that
intelligence agencies have been creating Manchurian candidates
and MPD for operational use since the Second World War. This is
not a conspiracy theory. This is a fact. Now that's very amazing
because if you took an opinion poll of all the psychiatrists in
the American Psychiatric Association today-or you took the same
poll five years ago -- 99.999% ... over 99% of the psychiatrists
would say &quot;it's fiction, we know the movie is fiction, Frank
Sinatra did a good job, but there's just no way, it's absolutely
impossible.&quot; (There might be two outlaw psychiatrists in the
whole group who would say that it's possible that Manchurian
candidates are real.) This is a very, very strange phenomena that
actually in 1996 this is a completely documented fact-it's a very
strange sociological little development in the field of
psychiatry. How could that be possible? Well I'm going to try and
explain how it's possible. So that's &quot;what&quot; I am going
to talk about. Also I am going to talk about not just creating
Manchurian candidates, but the whole network of mind control
doctors that is involved in this and supports this-this kind of
old boys' network that maintains all of this. And you will see a
whole bunch of slides with godzillian interconnections that I
will go into in detail. And every one of those steps - unless I
otherwise specify - is completely documented. Absolutely
objective in full. So there is something real peculiar about the
whole story. It's a very strange story. It tells us that there is
something going on in our culture and in the mental health field
that is hidden and secret. This is another kind of incest secret
in the field of psychiatry that all of these people who have been
running psychiatry in the latter half of the 20th century are
either directly or loosely connected to a whole huge universe of
covert hidden secretly funded mind control research, and as I
emphasized, that's a fact. Now why should we be talking about
that at this conference? Well it's obvious. If in fact
experimental MPD has been created and has been tight and hard and
real enough for operational use by intelligence agencies for the
last 50 years, then it is something of interest to the
dissociative disorders field. This is profound evidence in favour
of the iatrogenic pathway to DID that I talked about this
morning. When I combine the expert witness experience that I have
had at clinically created iatrogenic DID using the techniques of
destructive psychotherapy cults in the course of persuasion, as I
described this morning-when I take that expert witness evidence
and see those cases created out of a base of no pre-existing DID
and then I go to this CIA military mind control literature, my
only possible conclusion is yes, you can create full tilt DID
artificially from ground zero. Also I have to conclude that you
can create any degree of complexity, permutations of false memory
that you want. There is absolutely no limit on the quantity,
complexity, reality, congruence, plausibility of false memories
that you can insert in somebody's mind-wittingly or unwittingly.
So-they didn't tell me that in medical school. This is a little
sub paradigm revolution in the DID field. There is a huge wealth
of information, experimental information, clinical anecdotal
information, and operational street smarts knowledge of DID
that's been up and running and full tilt in the mental health
field for 50 years now. This did not spring out of nowhere in
1980, and we are missing a ton of experimental research data
that's still classified that bears directly on this false memory
debate that is going on in our society now. And you will see some
of the players in this whole scenario of interesting people. (If
we could put the slide projector on) </p>

<p>Every slide that I will show you is in your handout packet, so
you don't have to take notes. Anybody who is listening to the
tape-there are also a few examples of the documents. If you want
that information, you can call me at Charter Hospital at
1-800-255-3312 and we can just mail that to you. The first point
is that there are a lot of documented declassified mind control
research programs that are completely objectively proven beyond a
shadow of a doubt. I have a lot of this material and some I have
on order. This is CIA now. Bluebird and Artichoke were two
programs that ran from 1951-53 and I will read you some stuff
from Artichoke in a minute. These were then rolled over into
MKULTRA which ran from 1953 to 1963 and then there are 149
sub-projects that you will see a listing of in a second. That was
then administratively rolled over into MKSEARCH which ran until
1973. Contiguously with that, and in collaboration with Edgeware
Arsenal, MKNAOMI which involved MKULTRA, ARTICHOKE and BLUEBIRD
type research done abroad and nationally ran from 1953 to 1970.
This involves all kinds of hallucinogens, hypnosis and so on that
I will go into in detail. STARGATE just recently declassified
E.S.P., paranormal, remote viewing military uses of telekinesis
type research that was done from an uncertain start date up until
1984. Bill Gates, former Director of the CIA on ABC's Dateline in
December of 1995 said that it ran up until 1984. They had one of
the academic contractors to STARGATE on the show and they had the
man whose job was CIA oversight of military experimentation under
STARGATE. So this really went on, they really used psychics
operationally and they believed in it enough to keep spending
millions of dollars on it for several decades probably. Now when
you read all the Senate materials from the 1970's and you read
all the existing literature, the claim of the intelligence
community was that all this mind control research was stopped in
1973 due to Senate oversight and so on. One of the MKULTRA
sub-projects is on the paranormal, esp and using esp for covert
operations purposes. That element of MKULTRA didn't stop in 1973.
We now know from the CIA itself that it ran on until 1984. So we
know for a fact that at least that element of this mind control
research program that was said to have stopped in 1973, continued
to 1984. My position is that it is simply implausible that this
stuff isn't ongoing up to the present. </p>

<p>You can see from this list (Projects Chatter, Often, Derbyhat,
Third Chance, Chickwit, MKDelta and QK Hilltop) that there was a
large number of different programs in the 1950's, 60's and 70's
... all of which have a just a little tidbit of information about
them. Most of the actual documents and so on, nobody has either
reviewed or obtained through the Freedom of Information Act yet.
So this is a huge amount of, as yet still classified information.
Now we are going to give you a smattering run-through of the
institutions that were sites for MKULTRA research. In MKULTRA
there were 149 different sub-projects and these were not in
obscure little corners of the world. This is the American
Psychological Association, this is the Butler Hospital Health
Centre which is part of Harvard, Children's International Summer
Village ... this is a charming place ... this is a&nbsp;project
involving a study of children at an international summer camp
aged 11 and the study of how children who don't share a common
language communicate and in the CIA report it states that the
investigator was unwitting of the fact that it was CIA funding
and the purpose of the CIA in these 11 year olds was that they
might possibly identify promising young foreign nationals for
future use by the Agency. Columbia University, Cornell, Denver,
Emory, Florida, George Washington, Harvard. This will give you a
feel for who is involved in this stuff. Houston, Illinois,
Indiana Universities, Johns Hopkins, Eli Lilly was the big
supplier of LSD to the CIA. Those of you who can remember the
sixties might remember the &quot;House of the Rising Sun&quot; by
the British rock group, The Animals. They had a song called
&quot;The Girl Named Sandoz&quot;. Sandoz was the employer of
Hoffman who discovered LSD in the forties, and Sandoz was the
original supplier of LSD to the CIA and the military in the
1950's and they wanted a secure American supplier so they
contracted with Eli Lilly to become the developer. University of
Minnesota, New Jersey Reformatory, Bordentown in Tennessee ...
Ohio, University of Pennsylvania, Penn State, Princeton,
Stanford, a couple of universities in Texas, Wisconsin, the
Bureau of Narcotics, a prison, a narcotics farm. So these
contracts ... McGill, NIH, NIMH, National Philosophical Society
... everything and everybody gets in on the act a little. NRC. So
these were all of the major players in North American psychiatry
and psychology who were receiving this kind of funding. Office of
Naval Research ... which you are going to see multiple times on
the slides. Worcester Foundation for Experimental Biology ... all
kinds of different agencies and groups. MKSEARCH was the one that
MKULTRA was rolled into. It ran from 1963 to 1973. Again Bureau
of Narcotics, New Jersey Neuropsychiatric which is also an
MKULTRA site which I will talk about in more detail. Vacaville
State Prison which you are going to hear a whole bunch about. Now
BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE which were 1951-53 ... institutions there
include the Bureau of Narcotics, Cornell, Eli Lilly again, NIH,
Public Health Service, University of Minnesota ... you get the
idea. Now what about the proven identity of some of the actual
contractors? The terminology here is ... we've got the contractor
and we've got the sub-project number and I have most of the sub-
contract files. Security status ... TS means top secret cleared,
UW means unwitting because this money was usually put through a
funding front and you will see a slide showing how that was all
organized so a person could get money through a CIA funding front
and genuinely not know it was CIA money. They would just think it
was another Foundation. Most of the people you haven't heard of
like James Hamilton, Harold Abramson, Carl Pfeiffer, but you will
hear more about them later today. Some of these people might
sound a little familiar ... Louis Jolyon West at UCLA, Ewen
Cameron who was at McGill, he's been written about a lot, and yes
this is Carl Rogers of Rogerian psychotherapy fame. He was
actually a spook psychiatrist with top secret clearance who was
on the Advisory Board of one of the funding fronts and received
funding for psychotherapeutic research on schizophrenia. It's a
very funny thing that Mr. Friendly Carl was in the network.
Martin Orne, you will hear a lot about him. These people were at
University of Oklahoma. They were doing research on street gangs.
Four of the MKULTRA sub-projects were on children and all of the
investigators for those were UW unwitting. Martin Orne's top
secret clearance status. Maitland Baldwin who did stuff on monkey
brains. George White was a CIA career officer who constructed
safe houses in San Francisco and New York where people were
recruited in off the streets to have sex with prostitutes and
were given LSD and other drugs without their knowing it. The
rationale for this was that they were attempting to study
reaction of unwitting subjects in civilian settings to mind
control drugs. An alternative hypothesis to this was that they
were actually testing Manchurian candidate prostitute
performance. Harold Wolff was at Cornell. Raymond Prince I have
corresponded with. He was UW unwitting. He did research among the
Aruba in Nigeria on their folk healing practices. R. Gordon
Watson-I was a little bit unhappy to see him on the list, but
relieved to see he was unwitting because I read a book of his
called &quot;SOMA: Divine Mushrooms of Immortality&quot; ... a
very interesting book on Fly Agrate which is the little red
toadstool with the white flakes on it. The use of that by
circumpolar shamans has a very interesting history. John
Mulholland is actually a magician. When you go through these
documents, all these names are whited out. You have to piece it
together from here and there. It's a great big story trying to
track it all down. Except they goofed it up. John Mulholland was
not whited out once. When you get a file on one of these
sub-projects, there is usually a page in there that has
standardized wording about no individuals associated with this
project are witting or so and so whose name is whited out has top
secret clearance and is aware of agency involvement. There's
somebody you have probably heard of. His name is B.F. Skinner. I
am still doing some of the archival research to find out what his
sub-project number is, and what his security status is but I
would suspect it will turn out to be top secret. Just before we
get to that slide, I am going to read you some material, some of
which is in your handout. As you can see, these slides are going
to show you an awful lot of connections between an awful lot of
different things here. You get the gist ... there were a lot of
different sub-projects, a lot of different investigators all over
mainstream academia. Now I am going to jump to proving to you
that MPD has been created by the CIA and the military since WWII.
The first stop off point is at the back of your series of
handouts there. It's a publication called &quot;Science Digest,
April 1971&quot;, the author is G.H. Estabrooks. The article is
called &quot;Hypnosis Comes of Age&quot;. When you go to page 48,
I am going to read this out loud for the benefit of people
listening to this on tape. He's now writing, in 1971, and says
the following: &quot;One of the most fascinating but dangerous
applications of hypnosis is its use in military intelligence.
This is a field with which I am familiar through formulating
guidelines for the techniques used by the United States in two
world wars.&quot; (Ross: For those of you who are not history
buffs, that means at least back to 1914.) &quot;Communication in
war is always a headache. Codes can be broken. A professional spy
may or may not stay bought. Your own man may have unquestionable
loyalty but his judgment is always open to question. The
&quot;hypnotic courier&quot; on the other hand, provides a unique
solution. I was involved in preparing many subjects for this work
during World War II. One successful case involved an Army Service
Corps Captain whom we'll call George Smith. Captain Smith had
undergone months of training. He was an excellent subject but did
not realize it. I had removed from him, by post-hypnotic
suggestion, all recollection of ever having been hypnotized.
First I had the Service Corps call the captain to Washington and
tell him they needed a report on the mechanical equipment of
Division X headquartered in Tokyo. Smith was ordered to leave by
jet next morning, pick up the report and return at once. These
orders were given him in the waking state. Consciously, that was
all he knew, and it was the story he gave his wife and friends.
Then I put him under deep hypnosis, and gave him-orally-a vital
message to be delivered directly on his arrival in Japan to a
certain colonel-let's say his name was Brown-of military
intelligence. Outside of myself, Colonel Brown was the only
person who could hypnotize Captain Smith. This is
&quot;locking&quot;. (Ross: I have had patients talk to me about
&quot;locking&quot;.) I performed it by saying to the hypnotized
Captain: 'Until further orders from me, only Colonel Brown and I
can hypnotize you. We will use a signal phrase 'the moon is
clear'. Whenever you hear this phrase from Brown or myself you
will pass instantly into deep hypnosis.' When Captain Smith
re-awakened, he had no conscious memory of what happened in
trance. All that he was aware of was that he must head for Tokyo
to pick up a division report. On arrival there, Smith reported to
Brown, who hypnotized him with the signal phrase. Under hypnosis,
Smith delivered my message and received one to bring back.
Awakened, he was given the division report and returned home by
jet. There I hypnotized him once more with the signal phrase, and
he spieled off Brown's answer that had been dutifully tucked away
in his unconscious mind. The system is virtually foolproof. As
exemplified by this case, the information literally was
&quot;locked&quot; in Smith's unconscious for retrieval by the
only two people who knew the combination. The subject had no
conscious memory of what happened, so couldn't spill the beans.
No one else could hypnotize him even if they might know the
signal phrase. Not all applications of hypnotism to military
intelligence are as tidy as that. Perhaps you have read 'The
Three Faces of Eve'. (Ross: Now here he makes a scholarly mistake
because he's talking about Morton Prince's &quot;The Dissociation
of a Personality&quot; but he refers to the book &quot;The Three
Faces of Eve&quot;.) The book was based on a case reported in
1905 by Dr. Morton Prince of Massachusetts General Hospital and
Harvard. He startled everyone in the field by announcing that he
had cured a woman named Beauchamp of a split personality problem.
Using post-hypnotic suggestion to submerge an incompatible,
childlike facet of the patient, he'd been able to make two other
sides of Mrs. Beauchamp compatible, and lump them together in a
single cohesive personality. Clinical hypnotists throughout the
world jumped on the multiple personality bandwagon as a
fascinating frontier. By the 1920's, not only had they learned to
apply post-hypnotic suggestion to deal with this weird problem,
but also had learned how to split certain complex individuals
(Ross: a very interesting phrase) into multiple personalities
like Jeckyll-Hydes. The potential for military intelligence has
been nightmarish. During World War II, I worked this technique
with a vulnerable Marine lieutenant I'll call Jones. Under the
watchful eye of Marine Intelligence, I split her personality into
Jones A and Jones B. Jones A, once a &quot;normal&quot; working
Marine, became entirely different. He talked communist doctrine
and meant it. He was welcomed enthusiastically by communist
cells, was deliberately given a dishonorable discharge by the
Corps, which was in on the plot, (Ross: that's called
&quot;sheep-dipping&quot;, that's the technical term for that)
and became a card-carrying party member. The joker was Jones B,
the second personality, formerly apparent in the conscious
Marine. Under hypnosis, this Jones had been carefully coached by
suggestion. Jones B was the deeper personality, knew all the
thoughts of Jones A, was a loyal American and was
&quot;imprinted&quot; to say nothing during conscious phases. All
I had to do was hypnotize the whole man, get in touch with Jones
B, the loyal American, and I had a pipeline straight into the
Communist camp. It worked beautifully for months with this
subject, but the technique backfired. While there was no way for
an enemy to expose Jones' dual personality, they suspected it,
and played the same trick on us later. Now the only question
becomes 'is Estabrooks some sort of kook'? Maybe he didn't really
do this, maybe he's grandiose, or delusional, or just
bullshitting, or whatever. So let's take a look at who G.H.
Estabrooks is. How are we going to do that? We are going to talk
to a JFK assassination researcher who tells us that Estabrooks'
personal papers are all at Colgate College in Hamilton in Upper
State New York-that there's a whole bunch of boxfulls of all his
personal papers, his correspondence, his files, and so on. So
what we will do is send our secretary up there for five days to
go through those 17 boxes which are un-indexed, un-researched and
unpublished in any form and then we will request a bunch of that
material to be photocopied and we will bring it back to our
office in Richardson, Texas -- we will look at it, and then we
will talk about it in Orange County, California later on. What we
find is G.H. Estabrooks was born in Newfoundland in Canada-so he
is already suspect because he is Canadian. He is not really too
dumb, he's a Rhodes Scholar. He ends up studying, I am pretty
sure, under Gardner Murphy at Harvard, takes a Ph.D. and spends
really his entire adult professional career at this obscure
Colgate College in Upper State New York. So is he just an
isolated kook, or is he connected in any way? Well as I am going
through all this military mind control research in the library, I
am aware that Martin Orne, who we will get to in a while, is one
of the people I want to focus in on. And I notice in one of
Martin Orne's papers that he has referenced G.H. Estabrooks' 1942
textbook, which I have read, where he describes creating
Manchurian candidates for the military, so I know that Martin
Orne is aware of G.H. Estabrooks' claim to have created MPD. Can
I establish any better connection than that? Well lo and behold I
find that G.H. Estabrooks edited a book to which Martin Orne
contributed a chapter. So now, Martin Orne is totally connected
into the whole picture as you will see later, but if you go to a
couple of pages ahead of that material which I just read, you
will see a letter from G.H. Estabrooks dated August 22, 1961:
&quot;Dear Martin, I am sending to thee a special delivery, one
halo - pure gold, one pair of wings which you can try on for
size, and a credit card for use in the hereafter. Your article
is, of course, excellent. Upon receipt of your letter, I
immediately called Mittendorff, and he informed me before I could
even broach the subject that they would of course grant your
request for reprints. Some day I am going to have myself examined
and find out why I do not consider these matters before I
embarrass my friends. By the way, I will be at the APA meetings
on Friday and Saturday, September 1st and 2nd, then I will have
to whip back here and head south. If at all possible, I will be
up at the Biltmore. If you and Ron (which is Ron Shore?) are
anywhere in the vicinity, let us sit down and yack at each other.
I am not overlooking the fact that our meeting at Cambridge with
yourself and Ron sort of crystallized an idea in my mind. I had a
wonderful month's vacation in Canada - Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec
City, Murray Basin(?)sp, St. John, N.B., and home - and we
particularly liked the French country. My wife's native language
is French, although she speaks Italian, English and German as
well. I find that with her along, the red carpet is literally
rolled out and we see corners of the back country where they
would set the dogs on me if I happened to turn up alone. Thank
you tremendously. Hope to see you at the APA. My best regards to
Ron.&quot; So it seems these guys knew each other. </p>

<p>Now if you turn over to the next page, Colgate University
Symposium on Hypnosis, April 1 and 2, 1960 in Hamilton, New York,
opening address by G.H. Estabrooks, Chairman. The papers are E.
R. Hilgard, author of the NeoDissociation Book which is a
foundation of the entire field here, member of the DSM IV
Dissociative Disorders Committee, Ron Shore, frequent co-author
with Martin Orne, Gorton (I don't know), C.M.R. Fisher, I have
seen his name going through different stuff, Wolberg, I have seen
his name around, the behavioural guy I think, Martin Orne, G.H.
Estabrooks, Oh who's that guy? Oh, Milton Erickson? Yeah, I've
heard of him. So ... this G.H. Estabrooks is not just some
isolated kook. He is a pretty connected in, well-known guy and
all the luminaries in hypnosis in this part of the 20th century
know him personally, are corresponding with him on a friendly
basis and are coming to workshops he put on and publishing books
he has edited. So much for the isolated kook theory. Well, maybe
he was just kind of bragging a bit, and he wasn't really
connected to the military. Well. Bad news. A couple of pages
back, you see on stationery of the War Department, Office of the
Secretary, Washington, D.C., dated February 20, 1942 the name of
George H. Estabrooks, Nature of Action, Accepted Appointment.
Expert Consultant to the Secretary of War without other
compensation with the payment of actual transportation expenses
and not to exceed $10 per diem in lieu of subsistence and other
expenses. So he definitely had a Military Intelligence
appointment in the Second World War. Turn over the next page. Now
we've got Navy Department, Naval Research Laboratory, Washington,
D.C. &nbsp;From the Director of Naval Research Laboratory to
Professor G.H. Estabrooks via Inspector of Naval Materials,
Syracuse, New York. Subject: Information on Military Uses of
Hypnosis; Request for: enclosed three copies of receipt for
classified matter and return addressed envelope. &quot;The Naval
Research Laboratory has received a request for information
regarding the possible military uses of hypnosis. This request
comes from a Naval Officer who is primarily interested in
hypnosis as a possible facilitator of training, but also wishes
to know about any other uses which may have been tested. Members
of the Psychology Branch of this Laboratory have discussed the
matter informally with several psychologists versed in hypnosis,
including Dr. Robert White of Harvard University. (Ross: which is
where Martin Orne did his residency.) Dr. White thought that you
had done some experimental work on a person during the war and
requested that the Naval Research Laboratory communicate with
you. If you have done any work along this line, would you please
let us know the purpose and results of your investigations. We
have been unable to find any mention of such a project in the
Washington files of the Armed Services, and so we must trouble
you directly for information. Thank you for your consideration at
this enquiry.&quot; So we know that we've got very secret
documents which are not readily available to the usual classified
Military personnel looking through their own filing system. So we
know he's not an isolated kook. We know he had a Military
appointment. We know he's connected in with all the major
hypnotists and we know that he's claiming from 1943 through 1971
to have created Manchurian candidates successfully for
operational use during WWII. Is there any other correspondence
that might bear on the reality of his claims? Well, there's a
whole bunch of correspondence back and forth spanning the 1930's
to the 1960's (that is, spanning four decades) between him and
some guy called J. Edgar Hoover. So you'll see on Federal Bureau
of Investigation stationery, July 12, 1939: &quot;Dear Dr.
Estabrooks: Permit me to acknowledge receipt of your letters of
June 19th and 27th and July 6th, 1939. I read with great interest
the hypothesis which you put forward concerning the sinking of
submarines. I realize of course (Ross: and this was the Military
use of hypnosis scheme for sinking submarines) that you are only
suggesting things that could conceivably happen upon the basis of
your experiments and the experiments of others and you are not
suggesting that such a situation actually did occur in any of the
recent submarine disasters.&quot; 1962: &quot;Dear Dr.
Estabrooks: Your letter of February 27th with enclosures has been
received, and it was good of you to advise me of the Symposium
you have scheduled. I appreciate your inviting us to participate;
however the pressure of official business will not permit me to
designate a representative to attend.&quot; Now, in between those
two letters, there is massive correspondence back and forth
between J. Edgar Hoover and Estabrooks. There are visits of FBI
personnel to Estabrooks. There are many Military and FBI
psychological warfare personnel attending various workshops and
symposia of Estabrooks, and there is overt discussion of
offensive uses of hypnosis in clandestine operations. So, from
this, I conclude that probably G.H. Estabrooks actually did
create MPD in World War II and that an awful lot of people knew
about it. Well maybe it was just G.H. Estabrooks and that was the
end of the story. We have to have some other body of evidence
that indicates that this continued beyond World War II. And this
is material that is not in your packet, that's from Operation
Artichoke and Bluebird, CIA Mind Control research from 1951-53. I
am going to read you some Artichoke and Bluebird documents that
were obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. A lot of
stuff is whited out, so I will just say blank whenever it is
necessary to do so. To the Files. On 6th April, 1954, Tuesday,
SI&amp;H (Ross: I haven't figured out what SI is, H is hypnosis)
Experimentation and Research was carried on in Building 13 with
the following subjects present: Mrs. __ , in addition to Misses
______. ______ attended in a consultant capacity. (Ross: one of
these Misses was age 19 according to the document). The session
opened with slow induction for all hands, and then a subsequent
induction for Miss ____ to enable her to reconstruct a strange
dream she had had the previous week. This was successful,
although in the wake state she could remember no details. The
major experiment of this evening was then conducted as follows.
Miss ____ was taken to Room 23 under full hypnosis and she was
instructed by the writer that she would find a secret document in
or on Mr. X at desk in his room. She was told that she was to
conceal this document next to her person and then she was to
return to Room 21, Operations Room, pour herself a drink of water
which she would find on a bookcase, and then stretch out on the
sofa, face down and go into a deep sleep. She was instructed she
would not awaken under any circumstances. She was told she would
only awaken if somebody whispered to her a specific code word and
would recall nothing except sleeping on the couch. Miss ____
performed the entire test in exact as detail outlined above and
had no subsequent memory whatsoever of any of this activity.
During the experiment Miss ____ was taken to the same room and
she was told that a person whom she had never seen had taken a
secret document from the Agency. She was told that this person or
suspected person had been given a drug and was unconscious on the
sofa in Room 21. She was told she was to enter the room and find
the document which would probably be on the person on the sofa.
She was given specific instructions that she must locate the
document. She was told that if she found the document, she was to
conceal it on her person and return to Room 23, sit in the chair,
and go at once into a deep sleep. She was further told that she
would have no memory other than falling asleep. Miss ____
complied in specific detail and immediately discovered the
document in ____'s sweater sleeve. Miss ____ concealed the
document on her person, returned to Room 23 and at once went into
a deep sleep. Subsequently she was brought back into the
Operations Room and she and _____ were awakened. The experiment
was carried off successfully, particularly by _______ with entire
amnesia of the work, and cannot even recall it under hypnosis.
____ however was able to remember a certain part, though some of
her details seemed vague.&quot; Here's another separate Artichoke
document. &quot;3. Agents might be given cover stories under
hypnosis and not only learn them faultlessly, but believe them.
Every detail could be made to sink in. The conviction and
apparent sincerity with which an individual will defend a false
identity given as post-hypnotic suggestion is almost
unbelievable. One's memory for detail under such conditions
appears to be boundless. Analogous Case #3. A CIA Security Office
employee was hypnotized and given a false identity. She defended
it hotly, denying her true name and rationalizing with conviction
the possession of identity cards made out to her real self.
Later, having had the false identity erased by suggestion, she
was asked if she had ever heard of the name she had been
defending as her own five minutes before. She thought and shook
her head and said, 'That's a pseudo if I ever heard one.'
Apparently she had a true amnesia for the entire episode.&quot;
&quot;4. Hypnosis would make the recruitment and handling of high
level political action agents, in particular under ideal control.
Convictions could be reinforced, political courses suggested,
appointments influenced, and with a really good subject only the
imagination and skill of the handling operator and the inherent
limitations of hypnosis as a technique would limit the
possibilities. Double agents could be both discovered and used
with a much higher degree of assurance if hypnotic control
sufficient to permit regression were operative. They could be
given suggestions which would have the force of true compulsions
to tell if approach was made, targets, briefing, true identity,
etc. There is also the possibility that such persons could be
used under control much stronger than any we now possess.&quot;
So that's experimental use. It's clearly creation of Manchurian
candidates, there is no question whatsoever. This is now in
operational use in the United States. This is not Manchurian
candidates, but it's the use of sodium amytal and hypnosis for
the creation of amnesia barriers and deliberate insertion of
false memories. &quot;To Director of Security Via Deputy Director
of Security Via Chief Security Research Staff from _____.
Subject: Report of Artichoke Operations 20-23 January 1955.
Between Thursday 20 January and Sunday 23 January 1955, the
Security Office Artichoke Team conducted a special operations
_____. In the opinion of Team Members, in this case Officers of
the _____, the Artichoke operation was successful. Details
follow. It should be noted at this point that because these
operations were the first Artichoke Operations undertaken in the
USA, which is a violation of the CIA's Charter, the full names of
those participating are omitted from this report and will not be
revealed without consent of the Security Office. First names,
titles, or pseudonyms will be used throughout this report. In
view of the highly sensitive nature of the Artichoke techniques
and in view of the fact that this was the first Artichoke
operation carried out in the USA, the operation was conducted
_______. This Safe House is far removed from surrounding
neighbours, it is a large tract of land, and is thoroughly
isolated. A limited, and security-cleared household staff
maintain functions of the House and ____ by unwitting ______
Actual Artichoke operations as usual were carried out in a
special area on the second floor of the House, and neither the
household staff nor the _____ were permitted in the area during
any of the processing. SSD Division furnished one security
officer during the entire period of the operation to act as
special guard and to handle any unusual situations which arose
during the operation. This guard is hereinafter referred to as
____ in this report. For a matter of record, it should be noted
that the subject was not a confinement problem, and has been at
all times fully cooperative. Guard detail was not present in
connection with the subject, except in a general sense. Technical
matters in the case were handled entirely by the TBPSD under the
personal supervision of _____. Full tape recordings were made of
the entire case, and tapes are to be turned over to the
participating Division in the immediate future. It should be
noted that during this particular operation, a special device was
used in conjunction with the recording. This device, which is
easily concealable, worked with remarkable efficiency and at no
time during the entire recording was there any break due to
technical failure. It should al so be noted that a complex
two-way transmitting/receiving unit was again used in this
Artichoke operation. Cover for the actual operation followed
standard procedure. The subject was informed in general terms
that before being sent for further work it was necessary that
certain tests be made on him physically and psychologically as
well as his. Hence a complete physical and
psychological/psychiatric examination was acquired. Subject
readily accepted this medical cover and the Artichoke technique
was introduced easily and with the full consent of the subject.
The Case: Prior to the commencement of the actual Artichoke
operation, a number of conferences had been held with the various
participating personnel involved. All hands had been briefed and
procedures had been worked out. A general time schedule was
prepared and operating instructions for Artichoke were issued. On
the afternoon of the 20th of January the subject and _______ They
were met by ________ of the interested Division. Under a covert
car subject was taken to the _____, arriving there at
approximately 9:30 pm. Prior to this, that is during the day of
20th of January, the technical equipment had been checked out and
installed, and _____ had arrived at the covert area at
approximately 8 pm for operational purposes. By previous
arrangement the _____ was picked up by _____ at approximately
9:30 pm. _____ was brought to the Safe House at 10:50 pm. Shortly
after the arrival of ____, a preliminary conference began at
approximately 11:10 pm with the subject. </p>

<p>Interrogation lasted until 12:25 am when all except the
subject ____ left the Operations Room. Tape recording was cut off
at this time. As a result of this interview _____ stated that
subject's mental and physical condition was good and noted that
the pulse (Ross: which is actually the blood pressure) at 12:25
am was 120/80 (Ross: so these guys are not total wizards). The
doctor also commented he had noticed an increased amount of talk
after a drink of whiskey and although there was some nervousness
present, it was not excessive. _____ stated he had given subject
two grams of anibarbitol to the subject to assist him to sleep
and it was later confirmed the subject had taken this prior to
going to sleep. (Ross: a half a paragraph is whited out.) Because
of the successful penetration and because of the extremely high
quality of information which the subject was obtaining, the case
is regarded as most sensitive and important by the participating
Division. Since the subject's information had be en checked and
cross-checked many times by the Operating Division's Case
Officers, and the Division was of the uniform opinion that the
subject was fully legitimate and fully cooperating with our
efforts; they however desired Artichoke to give added assurance
to the subject's story and to help them determine absolute
suitability for further use of the subject in his work. For the
record, it should be noted that no polygraph techniques had been
applied in this case, since a physical examination by _____
apparently a cleared physician had indicated too much nervousness
for successful polygraph testing. Following established patterns
using medical cover as explained above, the ____ began a physical
and psychological examination at 10 am on the morning of Friday
21 January. This examination continued until l pm when an hour
was taken for lunch. At 2 pm _____ again continued the general
examination of the subject with _____ being used, as before
lunch, as interpreter. This examination lasted until 3 pm when
the ____ concluded the first medical session and a portable
polygraph was taken in by ____ for the purpose of polygraph
testing. (Ross: there's a bunch of blanked out stuff.) On
Saturday 22 January 1955 subject had breakfast with ____. At 9:35
am ____ arrived at the Safe House and at 9:45 am ____ arrived. At
10:35 am the subject again, with ____ acting as interpreter, was
examined briefly by Dr. ______. At 10:50 am _____ left the
operations area and began polygraph testing. This examination
lasted until 12:37 pm when it was concluded. (Ross: then it goes
on ... I'll skip a little bit.) Subject was taken into the
Special Operations Room with only the ____ present and at 2:36 pm
the first intravenous infusion began. Slow injections were
continued until 2:46 pm when the ____ signaled that the subject
was fully affected by the chemicals and at this time special
recording and transmitting equipment was brought into the
Operations Room. Also at this time ____ left the room and ____
entered. From this point until approximately 4:15 pm when the
interrogations ended, Artichoke techniques were applied. These
techniques, which followed a previously agreed-upon plan, were in
three stages: (Ross: this is now deliberate implantation of false
memories.) A. A fantasy which ______. Results during this phase
were good and subject had no control. Time approximately 15-20
minutes. B. A fantasy in which _____. Results were again very
good. Time approximately 40-45 minutes. C. Following development
of the fantasies as noted above, the subject was more or less
directly interrogated by _____, and ____ introduced as _____.
Results only fair, although subject had little control. Time
approximately 15 minutes. Immediately following the conclusion of
the Artichoke treatments, a general conference was held with all
hands present. It was agreed at this time that further Artichoke
treatments were unnecessary, that results were as conclusive ..
that in view of the subject's importance, additional work with
chemicals or with the H technique might possibly antagonize the
subject, hence would be unwarranted and unwise. Following the
conclusion of the general discussion all technical apparatus was
removed from the premises, and all participating personnel with
the exception of _____ left the area after the ____ had checked
the subject. On Sunday 23 January between approximately twelve
noon and l:30 pm, the _____ returned to the Safe House and again
re-examined the physical and mental condition of the subject. At
this time the subject reported he had slept fairly well but he
had a persistent headache. The _____ pointed out that the
headache was a natural consequence of the &quot;examination&quot;
and it would gradually disappear. In addition the ____ wrote a
prescription which was to be picked up in another name for future
use by the subject as a general sedative. At 1:50 pm
approximately _____ left the Safe House and the subject was
turned over for handling to Case Officers of his participating
Division. CONCLUSIONS: In the opinion of the Artichoke Team the
operation was profitable and successful. In this case the subject
was aware that he had been given certain types of solutions but
as to what he had been given or amounts given, he had no
knowledge. Checks were made by ___ and later ____ and apparently
indicated that the subject, although not having specific amnesia
for the Artichoke treatment, nevertheless was completely confused
and his memory was vague and faulty. This vagueness and failure
of memory was intensified by the _____ explanation that the
subject had been dreaming an opinion which it appeared the
subject shared in part.&quot; Ross: So that's obviously
operational use of sophisticated mind control amnesia inducing
and false memory implanting techniques in the USA in the 1950's
by the CIA. It's part of a broad program of mind control
research, experimentation and operational use which included the
creation of Manchurian Candidates. So this is why I say that I
conclude that it's an established fact that the CIA and the
military have been creating Manchurian Candidates for operational
use since World War II at least into the 1950's, and that it's
not plausible denial in my mind to claim that it all stopped in
1973. How did this whole network get constructed, and how does it
work and how is it supported? We are going to take several steps
beyond Oliver Stone in terms of level of conspiracy theory, but
that's not the point of the talk. The conspiracy theory is
interesting to get into, but what I actually believe is that
there isn't a conspiracy. I think that the Intelligence Community
itself is a polyfragmented entity with Dissociative Identity
Disorder, and that there is no single Executive Host Function.
There is no little where everybody has it all planned out and
under control. That it works sort of as Neural Network with no
Executive Host Function, and that these Old Boys talk to these
Old Boys who know this, who don't know this, know that, it's this
kind of Network Model and that's what you see on the slide. And
all these slides are going to look like this. I am going to walk
you now through all these interconnections in this Network as I
said all of which are documented, and tell you about some of the
history, and talk about some of the ethical problems that arise.
As a matter of general background now, this slide is called
&quot;Funding Fronts for CIA Mind Control Research&quot;.
MKULTRA, you have already seen, was from 1953 to 1963. The major
funding fronts for MKULTRA were the Human Ecology Foundation that
Carl Rogers was on the Board of; the Josiah Macey Jr. Foundation,
and the Geshickter Fund. Charles Geshickter was one of the
MKULTRA contractors himself. So what happened was the CIA would
have its budget who would pop money over to the Human Ecology
Foundation ... HEF would put out a call for grants and people
would then submit applications. So it looks like a normal funding
foundation, and some people were unwitting and just thought they
were applying for a grant, and other people knew perfectly well
there was a front, the technical terms for these kinds of funds
was a &quot;Cutout&quot;. HEF, Josiah Macey Jr. and Geshickter
were CIA cutouts. This Geshickter Fund was interesting. One of
the MKULTRA projects that they funded was the construction of the
Gorman Annex at the George Washington University Hospital in
Washington, D.C. You have to remember that the military and the
CIA are federal bureaucracies. You anticipate the behaviour of
federal bureaucracies in general when you are looking into their
history and operations. So what they did was through MKULTRA they
funded to Geshickter who then funded out to the contractor money
to build the Gorman Annex as an addition to the hospital. Since
this was money coming from a private foundation, it generated
matching funds from another sector of the federal government. So
the CIA got to double its budget by sucking its money out of
unwitting civilian areas of the federal purse. What was the
Gorman Annex for? It was for mind control experimentation on
terminal cancer patients. Three career officers, CIA biochemists,
were employed at the Gorman Annex under full cover. This is not
completely above board and ethical behaviour. So Carl Rogers who
is on the board of the Human Ecology Foundation is himself an
MKULTRA contractor and his specific projects have got this
MKULTRA grant application ... I've got him on the Board of the
HEF, I've got the description of his project that was funded
through MKULTRA, and I've got the publication flowing from the
project that exactly matches the grant application, and in the
published paper, he acknowledges funding from the Human Ecology
Foundation. So it's a completely documented closed loop. </p>

<p>Josiah Macey Jr. Foundation. Who was on the Board? An
interesting fellow named Daniel X. Friedman. Daniel X. Friedman
was the Editor of the Archives of the Journal of Psychiatry from
1970 until his death in 1993. The Archives of the Journal of
Psychiatry is the most referenced psychiatric journal in the
world, by far. In other words, if you do citation index searches
of references of published psychiatry papers, that is it's an
indexing of all the published papers in all the psychiatry
journals in the world (the number of references to articles
published in the Journal of Psychiatry is 7x the number of the
next psychiatry journal in the world. So this &quot;the&quot;
number one great big place to publish. It is very biomedical
reductionist and it's virtually impossible to get a dissociative
paper published in there. So these people, like Daniel Friedman,
who are in network, are incredibly influential, powerful,
controlling people in terms of the history of psychiatry, what
gets funded, what gets reviewed, what gets published, who gets
appointments, etc etc etc. It's all part of a very powerful tight
structured network. MKULTRA connects itself up to Allen Dulles
which connects us back to Human Ecology over to Harold Wolff and
back to Allen Dulles. How does that work? Allen Dulles was the
Director of the CIA from 1953 to 1961. He has the longest-running
tenure as DCIA-Director of Central Intelligency Agency. In World
War II he was employed by the OSS - Offices of Strategic Services
- which is the pre-cursor of the CIA which was run by a guy
called Wild Bill Donovan. He was stationed in Switzerland and was
heavily involved in, obviously since the enemy was the Germans
and the allies were the Russians, in the War he was supposed to
be working with the Russians against the Germans which he did.
However, when you read the history of the OSS in World War II, in
the last years of the War, the Cold War was already being
deliberately planned out and set up by the Intelligence Agencies,
and it was already apparent to the Intelligence Agencies that
things were going to flip - that Germany would become the Allies
an d Russia would become the enemy. There was an awful lot of
jockeying about whether the Germans were going to surrender in
North Italy before the Russians got to Yugoslavia - so there were
now negotiations with the Germans - because if they agreed to
surrender early - before the Russians got there - then there
would be such-and-such a payoff which would secure the area for
the Allies so they wouldn't be taken over by the Russians. There
was all this jockeying going on, all this intrigue,
communications between the OSS and some of Hitler's generals. The
arch-enemy spymaster, who Allen Dulles was fighting against was
Reinhard Gehlen who was head of German Intelligence in the
Eastern Front, which means Russia. At the end of World War II,
Allen Dulles recruited Reinhard Gehlen to become the Head of that
Division of the CIA's operations against Russia. This is a
totally established fact. Harold Wolff who was the Head of the
Human Ecology Foundation, was a neurologist at Cornell. When
Allen Dulles' son received a head wound in the Korean War, he was
brought back to the USA and treated by Harold Wolff. You start to
get a feel for why I call this an Old Boys' Network. Let's come
down here to MKULTRA-we're over at hallucinogens. A lot of
MKULTRA subprojects had to with funding LSD and other
hallucinogens. A person who did a lot of hallucinogen research
and published a lot of hallucinogen research was Daniel Friedman.
Hallucinogen research also connects us down to Loretta Bender.
Loretta Bender is the much-revered author of &quot;The Bender
Gestalt&quot;. Now look at these three names: Loretta Bender,
Paul Hawk and Ewen Cameron. You will see that each of these names
(they are all supposed to connect to the American Journal of
Psychiatry obituaries). Ewen Cameron, Paul Hawk and Loretta had
their obituaries in the American Journal of Psychiatry. So these
are revered people, who are being honoured posthumously by the
flagship Journal of the American Psychiatric Association. It's
actually Stella Chess who writes the obituary for Loretta Bender,
very glowing, what a wonderful contributor to child psychiatry,
what a pioneer ... well, sh e forgot to mention in the obituary -
in a publication that I have in my Loretta Bender file that I got
from a medical school library - Loretta Bender describes giving
150 mcg per day to children ages 7-11 years for days, weeks,
months and in some cases, even years in a row. This would not get
through an Ethics Committee. This is discussed at a CIA sponsored
symposium on LSD. Paul Hawk, anybody ever hear of a disorder
called Borderline Personality Disorder? Hawk and Pollett(sp) in
1949 Psychiatric Quarterly, Pseudo Neurotic Forms of
Schizophrenia - these people are on the borderline between
neurosis and schizophrenia - we call it pseudoneurotic
schizophrenia because they are on the borderline. It's one of the
reasons why the word &quot;borderline&quot; caught on. </p>

<p>Well he did hallucinogen research in New York for the
military, and it had one unfortunate side effect - he killed
Harold Blauer(sp) a tennis pro, in 1953, with an injection of
Army mescaline and the family was eventually compensated for
that. He's big-time connected into all the hallucinogen research
by the military, CIA, and he's at many different CIA-sponsored
conferences. Ewen Cameron, former Head of the Quebec Psychiatric
Association, the Canadian Psychiatric Association, the American
Psychiatric Association, the World Psychiatric Association - in
fact, the founder of the World Psychiatric Association - and also
one-time President of the Association for Biological Psychiatry.
As politically connected a guy as ever existed in the entire
field of psychiatry in the 20th Century, with his obituary in the
American Journal of Psychiatry, funded through MKULTRA and Human
Ecology Foundation, did LSD and other hallucinogen research
funded by Canadian military and the CIA and was successfully sued
(he had already died) - the CIA settled out of court actually -
it wasn't a successful suit technically - with eight of his
patients who had been victims of experimentation that was first
funded directly by the CIA through the Human Ecology Foundation
and then through the Canadian government. One of his papers,
published in the American Journal of Psychiatry is on Psychic
Driving, another is on Production of Differential Amnesia in
Schizophrenia. I interviewed a woman named Linda McDonald, who is
identified in public, this is not a problem with violation of her
confidentiality, and I have a release to talk about her and write
about her - she was 25 years old when she went to McGill to be
treated for a relatively mild post-partum depression. She turned
26 during her hospitalization from March to early September,
1963. During the course of her hospitalization, she received 102
ECT treatments, using the Paige-Russell technique, in which the
button is pushed 6x per treatment, instead of 1x. She also
received about 80 days of barbiturate and neuroleptic induced
sleep. During the course of her hospitalization - now, I have not
only her testimony I also have the actual medical record, with
all of the nursing notes documenting this and Ewen Cameron's
signature in the chart. So this is not rumour or patient
distortion this is the actual record. And this is work that has
been settled out of court by the CIA. She comes in a normal,
somewhat depressed person, who on my interview I would say she
probably had DDNOS before she was admitted - she gets regressed
back to incontinent of urine, incontinent of feces, totally
disoriented, unable to state her own name, year, where she is,
recognize her children, recognize her husband. She gradually
comes out of this. At the time of discharge she is sent home to
live with her husband and children, resume normal sexual
relations with her husband - she doesn't know how to drive a car,
read, cook, use a toilet. Not only does she not know exactly what
sex is all about, and she's not exactly sure who her husband is,
she doesn't know what the concept of a husband is. She
neuropsychologically pulls out of this over months, and several
months down the road, she's at the point where a full time
homemaker has taught her how to scramble eggs. She was a fully
competent housewife and mother before this. When her children go
out to play on the street, she is unable to remember 30 seconds
later where they are, so she puts a map of the neighbourhood up
on the wall and puts pins in the map to keep track of where her
kids are playing. Otherwise she goes into a panic and doesn't
realize what's going on. By about a year, she appears to have
made a full neuropsychological recovery, and when I interview her
several years ago in Vancouver, she appears to be
neuropsychologically intact and to be suffering from no active
psychiatric disorder. The problem is that she can't remember
anything from the time she left the hospital back to birth. So
this is CIA and Canadian military research to totally wipe out
somebody's memory, which is very successful. In the published
articles on psychic driving and the creation of differential
amnesia and schizophrenia, the claim is that if you have somebody
who has been delusional for the past five years, and you give
them this &quot;regressive ECT&quot; and regress them down to
total infantile incontinence and bring them back up, and while
you do that, you play a lot of tape loops (looped statements)
over and over and over, hundreds and hundreds of times a day ...
they will come back to their normal waking state, and they will
have specific amnesia for the time during which they have been
delusional and for the delusional material and their
schizophrenia will then be cured. So this is very careful,
deliberate research to produce specific amnesias, and total
global amnesia. We would certainly want to honour that man in the
American Journal of Psychiatry. This is how the funding was set
up. Let's look at the network for both the creation of Manchurian
Candidates and the denial of the existence of Manchurian
Candidates. How's that structured? You would think it might be
logical to have a disinformation program in place. Like any
complex system, it's sort of arbitrary where you enter the
system. Let's enter at MKULTRA which we saw is connected to
Bluebird and Artichoke - both of those are connected to the CIA.
The CIA is highly connected to the military intelligence
structurally (committees, cross-references, cooperation in many
of these documented mind control research projects). In the
Senate Committee Hearings in the 1970's on MKULTRA, John
Gittinger who was the head Ph.D. psychologist in MKULTRA
testified that the creation of Manchurian Candidates and the
movie, The Manchurian Candidate, which were referred to in his
testimony, were just fiction, that's ridiculous, and that had
never been done. But we see that MKULTRA, on which he was the
lead psychologist, was actually an administrative rollover from
Bluebird and Artichoke-we have just read material in which they
are explicitly describing clear creation of Manchurian Candidates
so it's not possible that he didn't know that. The options here
are either he was so out of it that he didn't realize that was
Manchurian Candidates that were being created there, or he was
somehow administratively out of the loop and never even looked at
the Bluebird and Artichoke documents which is fairly
unbelievable, or it is deliberate disinformation. Let's go from
the CIA here over to military intelligence over to Estabrooks.
We've got Estabrooks actually creating Manchurian Candidates. So
that's Manchurian Candidate creation which goes back to Bluebird
and Artichoke. We've got that loop already discussed. Let's hop
from CIA to Martin Orne. Well, we saw in the original list of
MKULTRA consultants that Martin Orne was funded through that, and
had top-secret clearance. When you look at Martin Orne's C.V.-he
lists in his C.V. numerous military intelligence funding sources
(virtually all branches of the military) and he, in his
publications, cites funding by Air Force, Army (I am pretty
sure), Office of Naval Research, and Human Ecology. A reliable
source informed me that he also consulted with the National
Security Agency. He basically has consulted with all branches of
the military intelligence and civilian intelligence network. He
also has taken the position, since at least 1984 in public, that
MPD is almost al ways an iatrogenic artifact . He has debated
this vociferously at the APA annual from 1988 on, and has
published a large discussion and commentary on this in the
International Journal of Clinical Experimental Hypnosis. His
basic position is that MPD is created by the therapist. Now why
would Martin Orne think this, and believe this, when he is
totally connected into military intelligence? He is one of the
leading experts in hypnosis, he is a friend and correspondent of
and has been edited by and he references G.H. Estabrooks who was
also one of the leading hypnosis experts at the same time, who
was also tightly tied into military intelligence-and Estabrooks
knows those other people like Milton Erickson and Hilgaard(sp)
who are all totally interconnected by their common work and
references. Well, Martin Orne might believe that all the civilian
DID cases are actually iatrogenic DID because that is the
universe he has grown up in. He can't step outside his own
knowledge of the creation of Manchurian Candidates by the
military to conceive of the idea that it might arise
naturalistically. So it is basically a project, or lack of
intellect. It can't be lack of intellect, because Martin Orne
does not lack intellect. The fact that he is too dumb to get it
is totally implausible because he's a very bright guy, so that
explanation we can rule out. And the other explanation is
deliberate disinformation. There is no way to discriminate
between those hypotheses or test them with the available data. So
Martin Orne says that DID is iatrogenic. Oh, what's this thing
over here? FMSF - False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Well, isn't
this funny. Martin Orne is on the Scientific Advisory Board of
the False Memory Syndrome Foundation and the False Memory
Syndrome Foundation clearly promotes the idea that DID is either
almost entirely or 100% entirely an iatrogenic artifact. Where
does that take us down to? That takes us down to Manchurian
Candidate Denial. That is done specifically by Richard Ofshe, who
is a Scientific Advisory Board member of the False Memory
Syndrome Foundation. In his book, &quot;Making Monsters&quot;
where he ridicules me as a CIA conspiracy nut who believes that
the CIA has been creating MPD (which in fact is a documented
fact). Let's skip back to here. We're at the CIA and we're at
MKULTRA, we're missing another connection here. It should go
MKULTRA to Joly West, but ... the CIA connects to Joly West
because he was funded under MKULTRA to study the psychobiology of
dissociation. He will probably go down in history as the only
person to kill an elephant at Oklahoma City Zoo with LSD. Well,
Joly West is going to show up on a bunch of subsequent slides.
What we're looking at is two-dimensional slices of a three- or
end dimensional space. So you are going to see Joly West connect
out to here, and off the screen, and up and down and around the
back of the screen, and so on. One place that he connects if from
here to here. Now, where did Joly West start off in his
professional career? He started off as a Top Secret cleared guy
for the Air Force who interviewed the American pilots who came
back from Korea having been captured and brainwashed by the
Communist Chinese. </p>

<p>These were people who were real good Americans, who were
flying jets who were shot down by the Communist enemy who went to
prison as POW's and came back as Communists. Have we ever heard
of anything like this before in our lives? This is the creation
of a new identity and suppression of the old identity and all its
allegiances through mind control coercive persuasion techniques.
These American pilots were Manchurian Candidates of a sort,
without full amnesia for the previous identity. So they were kind
of a DDNOS level Manchurian Candidate as opposed to a full level
DID Manchurian Candidate, and Jolyn West was one of the guys who
interrogated them, understood them, wrote about them, and wrote
about how to arm future military personnel against such
interrogation. Robert Lifton also had Top Secret Clearance from
the Air Force to interview these downed American pilots, and
there are several other people in the group there, including
Margaret Singer, who wrote the book, &quot;Cults in Our
Midst&quot; which I talked about as the foundation of the
iatrogenic pathway to DID. She had Top Secret Clearance to
interview these pilots as well. Margaret Singer publishes with
Joly West, and Margaret Singer publishes with Richard Ofshe, who
is an expert on coercive mind control and cult persuasion
techniques. So that's real funny. Let's go from Military
Intelligence over to False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Who is
that guy? Oh ... it says Paul McHugh(sp). Who is Paul McHugh? He
is the guy who is Chairman of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins who
says that 100% of cases of DID are iatrogenic and says that all
the DID Units should shut down, and he is on the Advisory Board
of the FMSF. He connects to DID as iatrogenic, he connects to
Johns Hopkins as the Chairman of Psychiatry. He connects over to
Walter Reed Hospital because when he was in the military he did
research connected to Walter Reed Hospital that is listed in his
c.v. which is a major site for military intelligence work, and is
directly connected into the mind control network. Now why do I
have Johns Hopkins connected to MKULTRA? Because a prior Chairman
of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins named James Whitehorn was on the
Advisory Board of the Human Ecology Foundation. He had Top Secret
Clearance and was Witting. The Human Ecology Foundation was
actually a funding front for MKULTRA. So one of his immediate
predecessors was directly in network with Top Secret Clearance.
The research in his c.v. - and I haven't actually got the papers
out and read it - that he did in the military doesn't look like
mind control research. But then the whole question becomes, what
are the hypotheses that account for his behaviour? Here we have
an apparently relatively bright guy who is the Head of the
Department at one of the leading medical schools in the world,
who just doesn't get it, he thinks that all DID is iatrogenic. Is
this because he is not smart enough? Doesn't seem to be a
plausible explanation. Well, is it because of some sort of
peculiarity of his personal experience in his psychology that we
don't know about? Maybe. Maybe it's disinformation. No way to
know, no way to prove it one way or another. But this is the
network for the creation and the denial of the creation of the
Manchurian Candidate. It is a very funny little network. Let's
take a look, since we are all into FMSF here, let's take a look
at the relations between the Cult Awareness Network and the FMSF
Scientific Advisory Board. This is going to start taking us out
beyond Oliver Stone. Oliver Stone would say, no this is too much,
I am not making a movie about this. There's still hope that we
could land at the X-Files though. </p>

<p>CAN means the Cult Awareness Network, CIA means the Central
Intelligence Agency, and FMSF means the False Memory Syndrome
Foundation. Joly West is on the Boards of CAN and FMSF and is
connected to the CIA. Margaret Singer is connected to Joly West
and Richard Ofshe. Margaret Singer and Joly West are on the Board
of CAN and Richard Ofshe is on the Board of FMSF. Joly West and
Margaret Singer worked for Air Force Intelligence talking to
those downed American pilots who were actually DDNOS level
Manchurian Candidates. Leo Ryan, and we're going to hear a bunch
about Jonestown in a minute, is the Congressman who was killed at
the airport in Jonestown at the same time as the mass suicide
there, which was not actually a suicide. His daughter, Patricia
Ryan, is very active in CAN and recently received a Leo Ryan
Award, so Leo Ryan connects to Jonestown, Jonestown connects up
to the CIA through that loop because CAN is interested in
destructive cults and coercive persuasion, and I am going to show
you on subsequent slides the connections between Jonestown and
the CIA. Jonestown connects down to obviously expertise in cult
coercive persuasion techniques. Jim Jones was a big expert. That
takes us back up to Joly West, Margaret Singer, Richard Ofshe,
Air Force Intelligence, the CIA. So all this interconnects here.
Who is this guy Robert Heath? Well, we are going to see him in a
future slide too. My secretary has actually interviewed him, and
I might go down and interview him myself at Tulane in New
Orleans. He did brain electro implant research for the CIA and he
would put brain electrodes in human brains for non-therapeutic
purposes, and he would pour in psyllicibin(sp), mescaline, LSD,
and other chemicals to see what would go tingle-tingle in the
electrodes. And I will tell you more about that. He's funded by
the CIA and the military. In one of his papers, he thanks Harold
Lief for referring in one of his brain electrode implant research
subjects. Harold Lief is on the Advisory Board of the FMSF, and
in fact, was personal psychiatrist to the Freyd family. So all
these guys know each other. I'm just giving you kind of a sketch
of how this thing is constructed. Now let's take a step beyond
Oliver Stone. This is the connections between Jonestown and the
CIA. This is based on references, I think they are on the next
slide. The centre of the slide refers to talking about the CIA
with its interests in mind control. Now according to this book,
&quot;Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?&quot; by Michael
Myers, according to him, Jonestown was a CIA medical experiment.
It was a mind control research site. So that seems preposterous
and impossible to believe. What data and circumstantial evidence
add up to that conclusion? Well, we know that Leo Ryan was
connected to the CIA. How do we know that? Well, let's take a
look over here in our package. Here we have a letter from the
Deputy Director of the CIA dated 18 October 1978. To Honorable
Leo Ryan, House of Representatives, Washington, D.C.: &quot;Dear
Mr. Ryan: Thank you for your letter of 27 September to Admiral
Turner requesting confirmation or denial of the fact that the CIA
experiments using prisoners at the California Medical Facility at
Vacaville. MK Search Site Principal Investigator, James Hamilton.
It is true that CIA sponsored tests involving volunteer inmates
was conducted at that facility. The project was completed in
1968. A report setting forth the details of that testing has been
released to the authorities at Vacaville and to the public. It is
enclosed for your information and review ....... The research was
related to learning enhancement using a well known
non-hallucinogen, magnesium pemaline (Ross: which is psiler [sp]
used for ADD). Your letter referred to Donald Defreeze known as
Cinque and Clifford Jefferson, both of whom were inmates at
Vacaville. Insofar as our reports reflect the names of the
participants, there is nothing to indicate that either was in any
way involved in the project. You may wish to cont act the
authorities at Vacaville for further information.&quot; So Leo
Ryan was corresponding directly with the CIA about some of its
mind control research. He was also the father of pending
legislation, by which all CIA covert operations would be subject
to direct Congressional oversight from a budgetary point of view.
{Ross: I haven't got Charles Manson connected in. You have to go
a long way out there to get all these connections. Is Charles
Manson in Vacaville? Oh, I didn't know that's where he was. Okay,
well I'm going to tell you a bunch about Vacaville, so it's not
surprising that he's at Vacaville.) So Leo Ryan is really
pestering the CIA to get all their covert operations under direct
funding oversight and budgetary control of Congress. He is
bugging the CIA about their mind control research. He has found
out that Donald Defreeze was at Vacaville at the same time it was
a research site, we are seeing another document saying that is
MKSearch and the investigator is James Hamilton, who had Top
Secret Clearance. Also Leo Ryan was involved in Jones town,
because he was killed at the airport. Well that's very funny. How
does Leo Ryan connect down to Patty Hearst? Patty Hearst was
captured by the Symbionese Liberation Army, which was headed by
Donald Defreeze whose code name was Cinque. She was found guilty.
She was actually a Manchurian Candidate, a DDNOS level Manchurian
Candidate, who was captured, if you don't remember the story, she
was the daughter of William Randolph Hearst who ran the San
Francisco Chronicle who was running a whole lot of critical
articles about the People's Temple - Jim Jones' cult while it was
still in Ukiah, California. His daughter, Patty Hearst, who was a
college student, was captured by the SLA at gunpoint with
submachine guns, kept locked in a closet for 42 days, and
subjected to very systematic coercive, persuasive brainwashing
and mind control techniques, until she adopted a new identity
named &quot;Tanya&quot; and lost all emotional connectedness to
her prior life and her parents. She participated in the robbing
of a bank and was found guilty. The Free Patty Hearst Movement
was headed by Leo Ryan, who was very active in getting clemency
for her from the President. How does Patty Hearst connect to
Donald Defreeze? Well, he captured her. How does Donald Defreeze
connect to Vacaville? Well he was at Vacaville as a prisoner.
What is Vacaville? Well, let's hop over here to Joly West. That
will help us to figure it out. Joly West was the expert witness
in the trial for Patty Hearst. Who were the expert witnesses
called to explain to the jury that Patty Hearst was actually a
victim of coercive persuasion, mind control and brainwashing ...
Joly West, Margaret Singer, Robert Lifton and Martin Orne. So
what did Joly West have to do with Vacaville? Joly West was Head
of the UCLA Violence Project which was approved by Ronald Reagan
when he was Governor of California, then shut down by public
protest. It was spearheaded by a number of people including some
people who were very interested in the history of CIA military
mind control, and have written books about it. Well the UCLA
Violence Project you are going to see in subsequent slides, but
it included research and experimentation that was going to be
done at Vacaville Prison where they had the maxi-maxi which is
the maximum security place for the most freaked out behaviourally
disturbed psychotic psychologically difficult inmates in the
California prison system which included Donald Defreeze and
Charles Manson we hear. Who is Colston Westbrook? According to a
book on the Phoenix program which is the CIA's covert operation
in the Vietnam War for killing 20 VC infrastructure non-military
personnel headed by William Colby, future Director of the CIA.
According to that book, Colston Westbrook was a CIA Psy-War
expert in Vietnam who came back to the USA to Vacaville Prison
under cover of the Black Cultural Association and used
behavioural modification techniques on Donald Defreeze and gave
him his code name Cinque, and devised the seven headed logo of
the Symbionese Liberation Army. Subsequent to this coercive
persuasion work done on Donald Defreeze by this Psy-War expert
employed by the CIA in Vietnam. Donald Defreeze was transferred
to another location in the jail from which he very easily escaped
the next day only to go capture Patty Hearst and use very
systematic and sophisticated mind control techniques on her
despite the fact that he was a functionally illiterate black
person off the streets. It's a very expensive book, it costs over
$100, published by the Edwin Mellon Press, PO Box 450, Lewiston,
N.Y. 14092 and then two paperbacks which are published by Avon
Books, both of which are owned by the Hearst Corporation: Douglas
Valentine, 1990, &quot;The Phoenix Program&quot;, N.Y. Avon Books
and the specific reference is p. 337. &quot;Patty Hearst: her own
story&quot;, Avon Books, N.Y. pp. 133-34. This is from
&quot;Jonestown: A CIA Medical Experiment&quot;. This is some
general background now. There is this guy, James Frank, who won
the 1925 Nobel Prize in Physics who came over to be part of the
Manhattan Project which created the atomic bomb. That is sort of
the precursor of the Paperclip Project, which we will get to in
future slides. He recruited Lawrence Layton into the Manhattan
Project so that's the connection between these people. Now we're
going to go to this Layton family. There's Hugo Phillip and Anita
Lee Howbwood(sp) married in Germany in 1914 and they moved to the
USA. They had two daughters, Eva and Lisa. Eva doesn't really fit
into the story. Eva worked for the CIA at Berkeley. The author of
this &quot;Jonestown: A CIA Medical Experiment&quot; got all this
information from the public records by just piecing it together,
bit by bit by bit, and the documentation in their references is
pretty solid and convincing. Eva worked for the CIA at Berkeley
and her job at the library was to keep track of all the left-wing
literature taken out of the library and the names of the people
who took those books out and report that to the CIA. Berkeley's
got a lot of top-notch people ... such as Richard Ofshe. Lisa
married Lawrence Layton who was recruited for the Manhattan
Project by James Frank. He later worked at Dugway Proving Ground
where radiation experiments were done including release of
radioactivity for wind dispersal over civilian populations. He
was an expert in dispersal of biological and chemical weapons.
That Dugway Proving Ground was also one o f the sites where Army
LSD research was conducted. This couple had four children -
Deborah who married Phil Blaikie, Lawrence Jr., Annalisa and
Thomas. These two are not so involved in the picture. Lawrence
Jr. was on-site at the People's Temple, Lisa was on-site at the
People's Temple in Jonestown in British Guyana, Deborah was
on-site there and she was the chief financial officer for the
People's Temple operation. She left Jonestown shortly before the
mass suicide and went back to Georgetown, the capital of British
Guyana, accompanied by the CIA Chief of Station for Georgetown.
Phil Blaikie was an interesting guy with international arms sales
and British Intelligence background if I remember right. This is
where it really starts to get convincing and amazing. We have all
heard about Jonestown. We all know that Jim Jones had this group
of people and he was in Ukiah, California and then all of a
sudden he moved to the middle of the jungle in British Guyana. I
assume we all had the same sort of experience I had. You just
sort of take that at face value. Here's this nut. He moves down
to the middle of the jungle in British Guyana. But how did he
ever choose this location? Who scouted it out? What about the
logistics of getting all the lumber, all the oil drums, all the
everything down to the middle of the jungle in British Guyana?
You have to build an airport, you have to transport ... this is a
huge, huge project. Well, it turns out this wasn't just jungle
before the People's Temple arrived. It was the Shalom Project
from 1973 to 1975 and Phil Blaikie oversaw the engineering
development of the site in its transition from the Shalom Project
to the People's Temple. What was the Shalom Project? It was a CIA
operation for training black mercenary guerrillas for operations
in Angola. This was a CIA training site. This was not a random,
unconnected site. That's just some general background. We're
going to pick up Jonestown as we walk along here through these
crystal clear slides. Okay, we heard part of the story. Here's J.
Edgar Hoover, he's corresponded with Estabrooks who was creating
Manchurian Candidates, Patty Hearst is a Manchurian Candidate,
her identity of Tanya is deliberately programmed in by Donald
Defreeze who is in Vacaville State Prison which was an MKSearch
site which is also a site for the UCLA Violence Project,
Vacaville is a CIA research site, Patty Hearst is connected down
to Joly West who is her expert witness in her trial who says in
effect she is a Manchurian Candidate, DDNOS level. He's the
expert witness for Jack Ruby who is connected to Lee Harvey
Oswald. I went to one of the JFK Assassination meetings in Dallas
a couple of years ago where a guy presented a bunch of
information including a photocopy of a letter by J. Edgar Hoover
dated 1960 expressing concern that Lee Harvey Oswald had been
doubled. The FBI was on top of Lee Harvey Oswald, was on top of
him, and was tracking him systemically well before the
assassination. So that connect J. Edgar Hoover over to Lee Harvey
Oswald who is connected to Jack Ruby. How does Wounded Knee get
in there? Wounded Knee is an Indian uprising where the FBI were
shooting up the Sioux Indians. Russell Means was heavily involved
in that. What does Russell Means have to do with Jonestown? Well,
Jim Jones was a good PR guy. When Patty Hearst was kidnapped he
offered William Randolph Hearst a program to set up a
collection/donation of money to pay the ransom to the SLA. And
the SLA was demanding something like $170 million from Hearst for
the release of Patty Hearst. Jim Jones offered to set up this
fund, but Hearst said no. The next outcome was that the SLA also
wanted food donated to poor people that they said they were
representing in a revolution. So a committee was set up to do
food distribution, financed by William Randolph Hearst. According
to this book, the way that food distribution was done was Jim
Jones got control of the mechanisms and he brought people down
from the People's Temple down to be the homeless and poor people
who received the food and the same food was distributed around
the network six times, constantly being picked up by new People's
Temple people, and taken back to the distribution point. So
actually only one-sixth as much food was purchased as it
appeared, and the rest was skimmed by the People's Temple.
Russell Means was on the committee that oversaw this operation
and his wife was bailed out of jail in Oregon the year before at
a cost of $19,000 by Jim Jones. (Russell Means works for Walt
Disney - comment from conference audience.) So this arrow here
actually goes over to Mickey Mouse ... </p>

<p>We did Vacaville, MKSearch, that's all connected into Patty
Hearst, Donald Defreeze, we've got that part ... MKULTRA
connected to UCLA. What does MKULTRA have to do with that Sugi U2
base ... that's the U2 spy plane. Well that's according to
information from JFK assassination researchers that I haven't
independently confirmed, that was an MKULTRA site, Lee Harvey
Oswald was stationed there. U2 was the plane that Gary Powers
went down in. It was a spy plane that over-flew the Soviet Union.
It was also used for surveillance of Martin Luther King ...
that's an acknowledged fact. The FBI used U2 planes to keep track
of him. According to a book which is a little shaky in terms of
its documentation, the people who were consulted on the mental
state of Gary Powers, the pilot of the U2 that was downed
included Ewen Cameron who was an MKULTRA contractor who did the
experimentation on Linda McDonald who I told you about earlier.
Ewen Cameron was also one of the people who went over and
interviewed the Nazi war criminals at Nuremburg to do mental
statuses on them. So the FBI is in there fairly tight. Let's just
talk about MKULTRA, MKSearch assassination connections. This is
now out and beyond Oliver Stone, and we're going to pick up JFK,
a little bit of Jonestown, a little bit of this and that here. So
we've got MKSearch, Carl Pfeiffer was a contractor for MKSearch
and MKULTRA. One of the sites he worked at is the New Jersey
Reformatory at Bordentown which was in some of those preliminary
MKULTRA lists that I showed. In Walter Bowart's book,
&quot;Operation Mind Control&quot;, he talks about Luis Castillo.
Luis Castillo was arrested by the FBI, the Phillippines
equivalent of the FBI, on suspicion of being there to assassinate
Marcos. In 300 pages of transcript of the interrogation of Luis
Castillo by the Phillipines FBI, that's in the possession of the
JFK Assassination researcher who told me where George Estabrooks'
personal papers are, Luis Castillo describes very clearly (and
this is also described in Walter Bowart's book) having MPD. So
here's a potential assassin of Marcos who describes undocumented
MPD who was at the New Jersey Reformatory at Bordentown at the
same time it was an MKSearch hallucinogen site and an MKULTRA
hallucinogen site. We've got Lee Harvey Oswald who was at Sugi
Air Force Base which is apparently an MKULTRA research site who
is connected to Jack Ruby who is connected to Joly West who is an
MKULTRA contractor who is the expert witness for Patty Hearst
whose Manchurian Candidate identity &quot;Tanya&quot; was created
by Donald Defreeze from Vacaville State Prison which was an
MKSearch site which takes us back to the New Jersey Reformatory
at Bordentown. This is all just random coincidence, as I am sure
you appreciate. How about JFK/CIA mind control research
connections? I might come back to Jonestown in more detail. I am
just trying to get through all these slides here. This is a very
pretty little diagram with CIA at the hub and we've got a wheel
going all the way around. There is a game that I saw in the
newspaper called &quot;Who was in a movie with Kevin Bacon?&quot;
and the purpose of the game ... you can name any Hollywood star
and within six steps you can get from that person to Kevin Bacon
because this person was in a movie who was in a movie with this
person who was in a movie with Kevin Bacon. This is the same
logic here. We can start anywhere, we can connect Joly West to
the CIA. Neale Birch is a CIA Office of Naval Research mind
control consultant in Houston. Robert Heath is a CIA and military
funded brain electrode researcher at Tulane. Well let's just go
through this random assortment of individuals here. Robert Heath
is doing brain electrode implant and other research for the CIA
in Tulane. He publishes a paper with Bernie Saltzberg. Bernie
Saltzberg publishes with Neale Birch who is funded by the CIA and
the military. Neale Birch publishes an edited book - contributor
of a chapter in that book is Joly West who describes the UCLA
Violence Project in that book edited by Neale Birch. Joly West
interviews Jack Ruby. Jack Ruby shoots Lee Harvey Oswald. Okay
well that's interesting. That's the end of the story. Except
let's run back around this way. Robert Heath publishes with
Francisco Silva who is still alive and I am going to try and
interview him in Baton Rouge. Francisco Silva is a Cuban
psychiatrist who left in the random year of 1959 which is when
Castro took over, to take up residence in Louisiana and publish
with Robert Heath who told my secretary that Francisco was a very
wonderful person. In the Warren Commission documents, there is
uncorroborated testimony by Lee Harvey Oswald that in 1963, prior
to the assassination, he lived with Francisco Silva and was
temporarily employed at the hospital where Francisco Silva
worked. I am just sort of playing mind games with you ... this is
all just meaningless coincidence. Project Paperclip and Mind
Control Research - we heard about Allen Dulles already, he was
the Director of the CIA before George Bush was the Director of
the CIA, which in turn was before George Bush was the President.
Allen Dulles is head of the CIA during MKULTRA program and
obviously was aware of it and oversaw it. The CIA goes down to
this Reinhard Gehlen guy who is the German spymaster who is
recruited by Dulles to become our boy spying against the
Russians, our enemies who were previously were our friends.
Reinhard Gehlen was in effect a Nazi War Criminal. Reinhard
Gehlen is in effect a Nazi War Criminal. Project Paperclip is a
fully documented - one of a group of projects including Project
National Interest, Project 63, Bloodstone - there is a bunch of
other projects but Paperclip is the best known one. There are
several books about it. Paperclip is a project set up by CIA and
military intelligence to bring Nazi war criminals into the USA
through a mechanism that routed them around the State Department.
State Department rules were that if you were a Nazi war criminal,
you couldn't enter the USA. But there was a mad scramble at the
end of World War II involving the USA, Canada, France, Britain,
German and Russian governments who were all scrambling to get
their hands on German scientists. There were all kinds of
recruiting drives, etc. American teams would actually go into the
Russian sector and go to a place where German scientists were
being held, and sneak those guys out of there. It was quite an
intense little party that was going on. In Project Paperclip
(this is totally documented) all types of scientists were brought
over to the USA. Film experts, ball bearing experts, lubricants,
rockets, every aspect of science and technology of interest to
the military. This is included somewhat obscure people like
Werner Von Braun. Werner Von Braun was head of the rocket
program. He was the guy who was in charge of the V2 rockets that
were used to bomb Britain that were created for Mittelwerk(sp)
... the labour for Mittelwerk was supplied from Camp Dora(sp).
When the American troops liberated Camp Dora they found 6000
corpses on the ground. It is estimated that about 20,000 people
were worked to death out of Camp Dora building the V2 rockets.
Werner von Braun is documented as being on site at the Mittelwerk
at least 20 times, and being at meetings of V2 oversight
personnel where the use of prisoners being worked to death was
discussed and condoned, and the workers would sometimes attempt
to sabotage the rockets by urinating a part or tampering with the
rocket. The typical response to that was that the entire work
crew would be instantly hung in their work tunnel. He was also a
member of the S.S. and there is correspondence on US Space
Program stationery to a journalist where Werner von Braun admits
he was an SS Officer. So he was a Nazi war criminal who couldn't
be brought in through a normal kind of visa process. Another
person who was brought in through Paperclip or another related
project was Albertus Stroekhold(sp). Albertus Stroekhold is
regarded as the father of aviation medicine. There is a library
named after him at Lakland(sp) Air Force Base in San Antonio,
Texas. He was honoured by the Daughters of the American
Revolution for his contributions to Aviation Medicine and the
Texas State Legislature declared a one-time state memorial day
named after him in, I believe, the 1960's. Albertus Stroekhold
was not a nice person. People on his own administrative level,
people who reported to him and people he reported to were all
tried and found guilty of war crimes at Nuremburg. He was not
even interviewed by the U.S. lawyers responsible for that sector
of Nuremburg. The types of experiments that these people did
included things like putting people in a pressure chamber and
dropping the pressure instantly to about 60,000 feet to simulate
somebody being blown out of a cockpit if they were a U.S. pilot .
What would happen is they would cause their faces to have
excruciating pain, they would actually die or almost die. The
ones who died would be taken out of the chamber, their heads
would be cut open, their heads would be submerged under water,
their heads would then be sliced open to determine whether there
was air emboli in their cerebral arteries. Another type of
experiment done by these people was an attempt to find an
antidote to seawater so that downed German pilots in the North
Sea could drink seawater. So these people were given forced
feedings of seawater for days on end which then would be doctored
with various different substances to see if any of the substances
would prevent any of the subjects from dying. This is major
full-scale Nazi war crime doctor stuff, and probably over 1000 of
these scientists were brought under Project Paperclip. Nazi war
criminals were examined by a team of psychiatrists including Ewen
Cameron who did LSD and mescaline research and was an MKULTRA
contractor. LSD and mescaline research was also funded by MKULTRA
and mescaline research was done by the Nazi war criminals in the
POW camps. So Ewen Cameron probably got the bright idea of doing
LSD research from the Nazi war criminals. According to this book
which is not really rock solid in its documentation, he was still
in network up in the early 1960's when the U2 pilot went down. So
that the only people who are missing from this fully, completely
documented history are the psychological warfare experts. It is
not plausible that the only kind of scientists out of the full
range of expertise that were not brought over were the
psychological experts. A guy who was a deep-ops character in
Vietnam described being out in the field and coming across US and
VC personnel who were all totally wasted on some sort of
hallucinogen trip. Their job was simply to extract these guys and
leave the VC who were just completely out of it on the ground. He
told me which specific location in the USA would be the most
likely place to find some of these Paperclip psychological
experts, so I am going to pursue that. Let's just take a look at
the brain electrode implant research. Now let's say it's just not
believable that the CIA and the military have been creating
Manchurian Candidates-it's just too much like science fiction.
Well, what do we know for a fact that they have been doing? We
know that they have been giving kids a few mcg. per kg. big-time
street doses of LSD days, weeks and months up to years in a row.
We know that they have been implanting non-therapeutic brain
electrodes in children as young as 11 years old on an
experimental basis, and we know they have been wiping out
people's entire personal histories with 100+ ECT treatments and
massive sleep inductions through drugs for no therapeutic reason
whatsoever but we don't think they would go as far as creating a
Manchurian Candidate. So it doesn't add up. What we know for an
absolute documented fact is that they've gone way beyond
monkeying around with some amnesia barriers and new identities so
what's the story on b rain electrode implant research? Here's a
name you might recognize. Brain electrode implant research was
funded by the CIA and MKULTRA in conjunction with the Office of
Naval Research. There is a lot of joint funding of various
projects by Office of Naval Research and the CIA. The Office of
Naval Research funded both Neale Birch and the CIA. Neale Birch
published that thing by Joly West. Joly West started the UCLA
Violence Project which was going to be at Vacaville which was
where Donald Defreeze was. He recruited a brain electrode implant
psychiatrist who was part of a brain electrode team at Harvard,
Frank Ervin, to be part of the UCLA Violence Project. He denies
in his chapter in the book edited by Neale Birch that there is
any intention to do brain electrode implant, but the available
evidence suggests that actually in fact the plan was to stick
brain electrodes in some of these prisoners at Vacaville and the
concept was that you would use this for tracking of their
whereabouts and if they were off their circuit locations or there
was a certain kind of discharge from their brain, you could then
transmit a signal to them to arrest their behaviour so that they
could be picked up by the police. He is also funded by Army
Intelligence. Army Intelligence funded Neale Birch. Army
Intelligence funded Robert Heath at Tulane who did brain
electrode implant research. We saw him on the previous page. The
Office of Naval Research funded Jose Delgado at Yale who did
brain electrode implant research. This is the guy to whom Harold
Lief sent a patient. His experiments include sticking electrodes
in brains, as I mentioned, and then pouring in different kinds of
hallucinogens in order to see the effect on perception and
behaviour and electrical activity in their brain. This guy, Jose
Delgado, who is tightly in network, who is famous for a videotape
of a bull charging at him then he pushes the transmitter box
which sends a signal to the electrodes implanted in the bull's
brain, and the bull turns away. He also has a series of papers
which are in my Jose Delgado file where he does this kind of
research on cats and he refers to the cats in which he has
implanted brain electrodes that he is control ling by transmitter
as &quot;mechanical toys&quot;. By loose association, this
reminds me of a book called &quot;Man the Mechanical Misfit&quot;
written by George H. Estabrooks. He also describes a technical
innovation in an 11 year old boy who had brain electrodes
implanted for non therapeutic reasons. Previously you had to have
wires connecting the transmitter box directly to the electrode
terminals that were sticking through the skull. In this 11 year
old boy, however, Jose Delgado had figured out how to have a
remote transmitter without a direct wire connection. He describes
pushing a button in this otherwise normal 11 year old boy's brain
transmitter box and the boy starts being confused about his
identity, wondering whether he is a girl and talking about
wanting to marry Jose Delgado. He pushes another button, and this
behaviour stops. Another Delgado experiment is a 16 year old girl
who looks maybe like a mild borderline, pre-morbidly, involves
sticking these brain electrodes in and there is actually pictures
in the paper that you can photocopy when you go to the medical
school library, it's in a journal on the shelf-where in one
picture she's got this vacant stupid grin on her face, push
another button on the panel box and she is pounding the panel on
the wall. So they are showing actual photographs of markedly
different behavioural states-totally controlled by remote
transmitter and brain electrode implants. But these guys wouldn't
be using hypnosis to create Manchurian Candidates ... </p>

<p>Let's look at temporal lobe epilepsy and military mind control
research for a minute. Let's try and think about the history of
MPD. What are some of the bogus reasons that MPD is not real? One
of the big arguments is that it is really temporal lobe epilepsy.
We know that temporal lobe epilepsy has been used as one of the
arms of Manchurian Candidate denial. Here we have how that little
network works. We've got Robert Heath who is doing non-
therapeutic brain electrode implants plus brain electrode
implants on temporal lobe epilepsy subjects. That's all funded by
military intelligence and the CIA. We've got temporal lobe
epilepsy as a phenomena. Frank Irvin (who was recruited by Joly
West for the UCLA Violence Project) and Mark Sweet write a book
called &quot;Violence and the Brain&quot; in which they describe
doing brain electrode implants with people with temporal lobe
epilepsy. One of their subjects had a very unusual form of
temporal lobe epilepsy. He was driving a truck in Los Angeles and
came to in Phoenix. So actually these people were doing brain
electrode implants on multiples. Well, they could be alcoholics,
but the description (remember this guy drove a tuck from LA to
Phoenix, that's a little bit much for an alcoholic blackout) --
some of the other case histories clearly sound dissociative in
nature. But they are calling them temporal lobe epilepsy just
like Joly West said Jack Ruby had temporal lobe epilepsy. There
is this misinformation in the literature that DID is actually due
to temporal lobe epilepsy and there are nine authors in a series
of papers in the early to mid-1980's pumping this DID is really
temporal lobe epilepsy line. This shows you how this research
works because I haven't done this but the hypothesis is now that
these nine authors are somehow going to be in network. So the
odds are that the nine authors who published these papers saying
that DID is just temporal lobe epilepsy are going to be in
network in this mind control old boy network somehow. I just
haven't researched that up. Borderline personality disorder where
multiples are really just borderline is another back-up strategy,
and how does borderline personality disorder tie up with military
mind control research? Well, DID is iatrogenic, they are really
just borderlines. Martin Orne says that, Richard Ofshe says that,
Martin Orne worked for MKULTRA which is connected to MKNaomi,
MKNaomi was also conducted at Edgeware Arsenal where Amadeo
Morazzi worked who did LSD research for the Air Force in
Minnesota funded by Air Force Intelligence. Robert Heath also did
Air Force research. LSD research was done by Nazi scientists and
war criminals. Nazi scientists and war criminals were imported
into Edgeware Arsenal frequently, and one of the people that I
researched was Wagner Joreg, who is apparently the son of the
Wagner Joreg(sp) who won the Nobel Prize for treating syphillis
with malaria. I haven't researched that up fully but he came up
to Edgeware Arsenal and I have him documented as being a German
University Professor in the 1930's and 1940's showing up at
Edgeware Arsenal and publishing research on antidotes to chemical
warfare weapons and saying that he regrets the extremely long
period of time in which it was impossible to publish his research
data. So he did this research at Edgeware Arsenal which overlaps
with the time that Amadeo Morazzi was there who did LSD research
at the University of Minnesota. Another person who did LSD
research is Paul Hawk who worked for the CIA, and is one of the
inventors of the term &quot;borderline personality
disorder&quot;. So this is a little bit hokey this one. But it
just shows you - the theme here is not that there is a military
intelligence conspiracy to cover up Manchurian Candidate creation
with the myth of borderline personality disorder. The point now
is a more of a global general metapoint which is this whole
network of old boys in psychiatry and psychology who were
covertly funded for part of the military and CIA intelligence
mind control network are very influential in the history of
psychiatry in a kind of nebulous fashion that just permeates the
whole field. It isn't part of the sort of one-to-one
correspondences that I have been showing before. It's a matter of
the whole mindset of psychiatry - how we think about borderlines,
how we think about temporal lobe epilepsy, what are we going to
react to MPD like? Well we are going to react to MP D like - it'
a little bit more vague, a little bit more global, it's a little
bit more general - but the point is that the history of
psychiatry in the second half of the twentieth century is
undoubtedly been strongly skewed-not by an agenda that has to do
with academic research, not by the best interest of clients, not
by ethical psychiatry, but by an Intelligence agenda. My beef is
not with the intelligence community or the CIA. It's with the
psychiatrists and the psychologists who created a little loophole
where they can step out of normal ethical oversight, violate the
Hippocratic Oath, get away with it, not talk about it, and just
like the conspiracy to keep incest under the carpet, this is all
conspired and kept under the carpet - not by twelve guys in a
room at Langley who are doing the planning, but just by this
pervasive old boys network that's keeping the mind control secret
down just like it kept the incest secret down. So that's another
reason why this is important, and needs to be uncovered. That's
the end of the slides. Now I am going to come back to Jonestown a
little bit, and fill you in on Jonestown and then I see I am way
ahead of schedule which is fine because I have got a lot more to
tell you, and you can ask a whole bunch of questions, and we can
have a discussion. According to this Jonestown book - remember
that there's a connection between Patty Hearst's being kidnapped
by Donald Defreeze who is mind controlled by Colston Westbrook
who is a CIA psy-war expert and then there is the food relief
program for the ransom by Jim Jones who is being hassled by
William Randolph Hearst newspaper that ties into Russell Means
being on the Board. Well according to a person who survived the
White Night at Jonestown, Patty Hearst's boyfriend, Steven Weed,
was onsite at the People's Temple at Ukiah, California and
observed talking to Jim Jones three months before the kidnapping.
If that is true, then that just blows the coincidence conspiracy
theory out of the water. It is too much not to be all connected
up. According to the book there is pretty solid documentation to
prove that Jim Jones was recruited by the CIA way back in the
1950's and he was a coercive persuasion brainwashing expert who
had some Churches in Cincinatti then moved out to California. He
specialize in coercive persuasion on Blacks and Native Americans,
almost all of the people at Jonestown were not white except for
the elite who survived and he was on-site at two South American
countries - I think Brazil and British Guyana as a CIA undercover
operative doing typical CIA operations as part of government
overthrow both by stirring up left wing factions, stirring up
labour, distributing leaflets and so on. So he was actually part
of standard CIA operations going way back to the 1950's. The
evidence in favour of it actually being a drug experiment is
pretty weak. He says there was Drug A, Drug B and placebo and the
point of the experiment was do either of the active drugs enhance
the voluntary completed suicide rate of the brainwashed subjects.
But he doesn't really provide any documentation to support that.
He just sort of pulls that out of nowhere. So that's not very
plausible. Also he talks about MKULTRA in a non-scholarly way
because MKULTRA had already stopped. So it wasn't technically an
MKULTRA operation. There's a lot of elaborate detail in the book.
For instance Jim Jones visited Castro. There are a lot of
connections between the CIA being the site for Jonestown in
British Guyana before they went there and all kinds of visiting
back and forth from CIA stations in the capital of Guyana to the
people staying at the Temple. Like I said, one of those daughters
in the Layton family was escorted out of Jonestown just before
White Night by the CIA station chief. It just builds up like
that. There are dozens and dozens and dozens of these kind of
documented pieces of information. There is a whole bunch of stuff
about people who were assassinated by the People's Temple and a
bunch of numerological and letter type codes about how these
people were selected and how their last names mirrored the method
by which they were killed. There is this whole kind of vast
detail which leaves me with the next conclusion that it is beyond
coincidence. Whether it is actually a medical experiment is not
clearly established, except the most compelling fact is the
method of delivery of the drugs. Every night every member of the
Jonestown commune had to go to the kitchen and eat one cookie in
front of personnel. And he says the cookie is where the drugs
were delivered. I would say the next conclusion is probably more
than 50/50% likely that there was some sort of heavy CIA
involvement in Jonestown, whether or not it was a drug
experiment. In terms of how many people actually committed
suicide, according to this book, only a minority of people
committed suicide, many were shot or injected with cyanide. Only
a minority actually drank it voluntarily. And when you look at
the configuration of bodies on the ground, these are not people
who just drank, died and fell on the ground-they are all lined up
in orderly rows. There's a whole deal of how one of the Layton
family members-her identity was switched with one of the other
members who had lung cancer and she was actually escorted off the
grounds on the grounds of having lung cancer. But there was
somebody else who had lung cancer, and there is substitution of
bodies, there is a claim that the guy who was identified as being
Jim Jones was not actually Jim Jones. So you have to read the
book to get the whole wealth of detail. I would say it is fairly
compelling and persuasive. Which takes us back into how come all
these guys who are connected into network tend to be experts in
mind control, brainwashing, coercive persuasion, destructive
cults? And why is it that destructive cults appear to specialize
in creating Manchurian Candidates? You just keep going round and
round this network and the more you research into it- and this is
only part way along the journey-if you actually had a team of ten
researchers-you would end up with fifty of these slides with
every (some of it speculative) but every connection fully
documented on fifty slides. Another curious twist on this story
is the history of LSD. One of the things that goes on is there is
always information and disinformation. One of the strategies for
disinformation is called a limited hang-out is when you let out a
little bit of the truth, then you go, &quot;oh see we 'fessed
up!&quot; But actually you only let out 3% and the purpose of the
limited hang-out is to cover up the rest. There's always a
limited hang-out going on. Every time a bunch of stuff is
declassified that's only the tip of the iceberg. If we take a
look at the history of LSD, something that was not taught to me
when I was a psychiatry resident is who are the original
acid-heads? Could it have been, like, maybe, beatniks? Maybe
Allen Ginsburg. Could have been Ken Kesey, maybe. No the original
acid-heads in North America were the leading figures in
psychiatry. The people who imported LSD into North America were
the CIA and the military. It didn't get here through street or
drug dealer routes. It got here through official military CIA
mind control mechanisms. The CIA at one time actually considered
buying up the world supply of LSD from Sandoz. Like I said their
alternative back-up was to contract with Elli Lily to provide a
secure supply of LSD. These guys were on acid-trips in the first
half of the 1950's. People who first got turned on to LSD as
subjects in military experiments included Gregory Bateson, Allen
Ginsburg, Ken Kesey, probably Timothy Leary. Gregory Bateson was
married to Margaret Mead who was funded in her anthropological
work by the CIA. There is a whole other dimension of this which
is funding-this is a fact. </p>

<p>In...another story about anthropology ... a little glimpse of
which we capture from Raymond Prince who was funded under MKULTRA
to go study the Yoruba. This is called &quot;Study of Mind
Control Techniques by Witch Doctors Around the World&quot;. Now,
Raymond Prince's hypothesis is that actually it is just a way to
go undercover in a foreign country and get better information
about the culture and establish contact with possible agents and
recruits. But the CIA - as part of its proper operations in the
Cold War - has had to gather a tremendous amount of data on the
stability of various societies and countries which are likely to
tip over to Communism which involves sociology, economics,
military analysis and anthropology ... anthropology, languages,
and linguistics are all part of the operation. All these people
who were the original acid-heads are the psychiatrists, and the
psychiatrists, when you read the LSD sponsored symposia-the guy
who is the archivist for the American College of Psychiatrists,
Sydney Mallett (sp) whom I plan to contact-the American College
of Psychiatrists is this old boys club in American Psychiatry
that I got into because I got a fellowship from them as a
resident -- (to audience: &quot;No, I don't think it was CIA
funded ... unless Meade Johnson was functioning as a cutout ...
the money supposedly came from Meade Johnson&quot;). That's the
way the network works ... it's a joke ... but you never know ...
so the guy who is the archivist-historian in one of these CIA
symposia in the early 1960's talks about how he was turned on to
LSD by Paul Hawk who was responsible for the term
&quot;borderline personality disorder&quot; and killed the tennis
pro with mescaline. All these guys are writing and talking about
LSD as &quot;the hot thing&quot; in psychotherapy. They are
totally on board with it, and usually they are talking about sub
hallucinogenic doses ... like 60 mg, 75 mg as loosening up the
ego and causing these amazing treatment responses, like curing
long-term alcoholism in a single LSD psychotherapy session. They
are all getting funded by it, they are getting perked by it, they
are going for trips, they are meeting their buddies, they are
going to conferences, they are getting published, they are
getting books edited-it's all just part of the whole program.
Nobody in psychiatry is saying &quot;bad stuff, dangerous stuff,
street drug, protect the youth of America&quot;-they are not
talking like that. </p>

<p>All of a sudden, boom, it's a narcotic and it's outlawed by
FDA. What is the initial response of all these grey-haired
fathers of psychiatry to making LSD an illegal substance?
Protest, it's a bad thing, it's robbing us of a powerful
psychotherapeutic agent, it's crippling our research efforts.
These guys were hung out to dry. They were used by Intelligence
Agencies to gather therapeutic use of LSD, interrogation use of
LSD, psychotomenitic (sp) use of LSD and then when they had done
their job, LSD was just canceled from academia. It was made
illegal, and then a whole disinformation campaign went along with
that whereby LSD was transformed from this wonderful therapeutic
agent whose use was advocated by the major leading figures in
psychiatry into this horrible thing that made children jump out
of windows and bust up their chromosomes. It's called a
&quot;disinformation campaign&quot;. And it caught the leaders of
psychiatry totally by surprise, which is hard to believe since
psychiatrists are such clever political strategists in general.
What about this whole creating Manchurian Candidate stuff which
we see now for a fact has been going on since WWII? And according
to Estabrooks, even back to WWI? We now have established for a
proven fact that was going on during WWII, and the CIA was
working on it in Artichoke and Bluebird from 1951-53. The Korean
War only started in 1950. The disinformation was that our boys
went overseas there, they got shot down, they got captured, the
Communist Chinese worked on them with these strange techniques we
don't understand. The person who coined the term
&quot;brainwashing&quot; in a book was Edwin Hunter. He's a
career CIA officer. This was a term coined by the CIA to explain
what was happening to our boys in North Korea who were making
bold statements about germ warfare activities they had been
involved in. Now it could be that part of the Communist
brainwashing strategy was to talk to these guys about the ethical
improprieties of biological warfare and bombing they actually had
been doing in North Korea. In any rate, they come home as
Manchurian Candidates. We are all bent out of shape because our
boys are talking Communism, so we say that we have got to start
studying this reactively and defensively because of what the
Commies are doing. That is the disinformation myth that has been
adhered to by the Military Intelligence community steadfastly
from the Korean War to the present. It's totally bullshit. It's
disinformation. It's not a fact. It's a made up story to cover up
the fact that actually we had operational offensive use of this
psychological warfare technology already in place in WWII. We
have a major disinformation campaign which has basically fooled
mental health professions and the general public concerning
brainwashing, concerning LSD. Fortunately those are the only two
examples in human history. This analysis does not apply to the
False Memory movement. There is no way it could conceivably be
possible, you will all agree, that there could be any nervousness
in the Intelligence Community about Manchurian Candidates
spilling out into civilian psychotherapies and that a
disinformation program based on False Memories would be required.
It is obviously absurd. Nobody but a CIA conspiracy nut would
ever suggest that. I guarantee you that that thought has never
even crossed my mind until it just spontaneously appeared at this
moment. So you see, actually, in fact, the idea that there could
be a deliberate disinformation campaign element to the False
Memory movement is perfectly plausible, consistent with history,
and could be expected. There is bound to be some sort of
disinformation strategy if in fact Manchurian Candidates have
been leaking out into civilian psychotherapy. So here we have,
with all of this documentation, all of this proof ... we know
that it is perfectly possible that people we are seeing in
therapy who are claiming to be victims of systematic military
mind control experimentation are telling us about what actually
happened to them. However, I am not a single step further ahead
than I was four years ago on actually documenting that any single
patient in treatment actually in fact was involved in these mind
control experiments. There is no linkage at all from the current
patients in treatment to this documentation. So whether we are
ever going to get that or not, I don't know. (From audience: Mind
Control and the Military can be found on America On-Line on the
Internet - &quot;On Psych&quot;-and there are websites).
Apparently there is a lot of information about this on the web
and on Internet and AOl and elsewhere. But the problem is, I
don't go to chat rooms very often, but most of it is totally
banal, and silly and boring and a waste of time. So when you go
into the stuff on mind control, how much is garbage that you are
going to get, and how much is solid stuff that you can pursue and
document are you going to get is my question. I have no idea what
the answer is. But, as we all know, the truth is out there. (From
the audience: &quot;how would I go about documenting that a
patient I, or somebody else, currently has in treatment, in fact
was involved in that kind of experimentation?&quot;) Well, here's
how the documentation has gone so far. By the way, I have done
Freedom of Information Act requests on MONARCH at all
Intelligence Agencies, and they have all denied it exists. The
patient apparently has no source of contamination for specific
MONARCH memories, but has the word Monarch in her mind, and has
very specific detailed Monarch-type mind control memories. Her
father basically abused her domestically and ritualistically, and
then took her over to the mind control people. How she got there,
what the transport mechanism was .. plane, car, location is all
vague because she appears to have been all drugged out then
transported. Is it possible that her father could have been this
kind of person? Well, I have his military service records which I
got through the Freedom of Informatiion Act, I have a letter from
him in prison where he is imprisoned for mob crime connections,
I've got a mother and a sister corroborating the domestic incest,
the sister with some patchy corroboration of ritualistic and mind
control memories, I've got the father personally connected to
Jack Ruby. That's as far as it goes. It's sort of circumstantial
and intriguing. So the way I would attempt to document it would
be if the person tells me (most people can't tell you the
specific name of the doctor) but if somebody gives you a specific
name of a doctor, and gives you a specific location, and you can
establish that this doctor actually existed, and you can
establish that in fact this doctor was a CIA employee, and you
can establish that this person's father was imprisoned by the FBI
as part of a Mafia raid by looking at the journal articles that
the patient has, then you are starting to get closer and closer.
So it is your basic investigative reporting type stuff. Name the
specific base. Okay what do you know about the base? How did you
get there? Tell me about some buildings? Tell me about personnel.
Describe the uniforms. What was used? And then if you can get
another subject who was there at the same time ... that's just
the way it is. It is your basic investigative reporting. Which is
way beyond being a therapist. There is no therapeutic obligation
to do this. This is mega beyond duty to take collateral history.
So I don't think there is any mystery as to how it would proceed.
And it will proceed probably in the same way as the history of
declassified information since WWII. In about, I think 1988,
stuff was released to the Senate and the Congress and then to the
Press about all these radiation experiments. Nobody did anything.
It didn't even get into the newspapers. It was in the public
domain for five years before it finally hits the newspapers. Now
we've got this government report that is 900 pages long on all
the radiation experiments, including giving radiation to children
and radiation to pregnant mothers and the children of those
pregnancies dying of leukemia by age five. This is huge, big
stuff. Everybody was apathetic, didn't think it was newsworthy,
didn't even put it as a little trailer item in the New York
Times. This is no longer vague. We know the specific names of
people, when they died, whether it was plutonium or whatever was
injected, the names of the doctors, the names of the medical
schools where it was done, it's all keyed up for compensation,
the government has set up a whole compensation mechanism. If we
look at the Tuscagee Syphilis Study ... it is worse than the
creation of Manchurian Candidates. It was set up in Tuscagee,
Alabama in the 1940's. The experiment is-you've got 400 rural,
dirt-poor black guys with active syphilis and 400 controls. These
people are followed without treatment into the 1970's. The people
who are involved in the Tuscagee Syphilis Study (it is a huge
long list and I can't remember all the details of it) but it
includes the County Medical Society, the administration of the
study was actually taken over by the Centre of Disease Control,
the Surgeon General, the American Heart Association, all kinds of
people were witting, knowledgeable and aware of the study and ap
proved its ongoing nature well into the 60's and into the 70's,
in complete violation of all known medical ethics. Well okay,
that was kept kind of secret. Nobody heard about it except some
of these medical bigwigs. No. I have a medical paper from the
medical school published in 1965 called &quot;Untreated Syphilis
in a Male Negro - A 20 year follow-up&quot;. This stuff is
published, right in the medical literature. It is looking
everybody right in the face. What happens when you have 400
illiterate rural black guys with active syphilis untreated, for
40 years? Well, the outcome of the experiment is, you will be
very surprised to hear, they don't do too well, they develop a
lot of disease, and they die young. They do another thing. They
breathe air. There is another behaviour that we can predict in
these guys. They eat food. Going down the list? They urinate and
defecate. Continuing along with basic human functions, they have
sexual intercourse with women. Anybody who has been to medical
school will tell you it is 100% guaranteed that if you take 400
black guys with syphilis and do not treat them, the rest of t
heir lives, you are guaranteed to be creating cases of congenital
syphilis. The entire medical community knows this as an
elementary fact that you learn in first year medical school, it
is published in the medical literature, and it's condoned by all
levels of the old boys network in world medicine. This is totally
unbelievable and completely factual. This Manchurian Candidate
stuff is like Mickey Mouse Psych stuff. It's not even heavy duty.
The nurse who was the head of the Tuscagee Syphilis study
throughout its duration, actually got an award from the Public
Health Service because of her work on the Tuscagee Syphilis
Study. The individual guys have gone and testified at the Senate.
You can read the book, &quot;Bad Blood&quot; and these guys are
named as individual human beings. Which individual human beings
who are victims of military mind control research do we already
know? Harold Blauer, the tennis pro who was killed. Frank Olson
who was killed because he jumped through a window because he took
LSD mixed with Cointro by Sidney Gottlieb, administrative Head of
MKULTRA who I talked to on the telephone. When was the Olson
family compensated? He died in 1955 or something. They were
compensated by the President in 1977 I think it was. The reason
the wife and surviving children figured that in fact this was not
a simple suicide was they read the Rockefeller Report on CIA
activities published in 1975 in which the case was described
without him being named. So, they are reading the Rockefeller
Report, and they realize their husband/father was actually killed
by experimental LSD and they are compensated for 3/4 of a million
dollars. One of the people who testified at the Committee
hearings at the Senate in 1975 was a technician for Amadeo
Morazzi who was the guy who w as the Head of Edgeware Arsenal
where Paul Hawk got his LSD and mescaline from who was funded by
the Air Force while he was at the University of Minnesota. His
research assistant whose name is Mary Ray(sp) was given a dose of
experimental LSD which resulted in an acute psychotic state for
which she was admitted to hospital for which I have her medical
records, and I am in contact with her lawyer and I am going to go
up and get her story in more detail. She talks about a room that
was involved in the LSD research called &quot;The Leaf Room&quot;
so when you were on your LSD trip that was administered by Amadeo
Morazzi you were taken into the Leaf Room which was a room where
all surfaces of the room were totally covered with leaves. This
is weird stuff. She also was connected into a bunch of other
stuff. I am not going to go into all of it, because it is a
little weird, but it is two hops from Mary Ray to Iran Contra. So
she is a real person who exists. I know her lawyer. I talked to
her lawyer on the phone. I am going to fly up there. I am going
to interview her. I have her medical records. And the way this
works is the stuff that is happening now is not going to be
declassified for 20 or 30 years. Eventually we will have the
names of people who were victims of experiments in the 70's and
80's and 90's. We already have the names for the 50's and 60's,
not really into the 70's. We have the names of specific people
who were victims of the Tuscagee Syphilis Study and the radiation
experiments into the 70's. That's the way it goes. You are just
pushing back that curtain and there's always this lag time
because you are relying on the views of the Intelligence
Community or public apathy ... &quot;it was back in the Cold
War&quot; &quot;it's different now&quot; &quot;we joined the boy
scouts and we don't do that anymore&quot;. So there is always a
disinformation strategy for wh y it happened a long time ago and
we don't do it now and we are very regretful and we are so
regretful that we in fact agree to compensate these victims. In
Oregon there was a prison where men were paid to be subjects to
participate in radiation experiments. Their testicles had been
irradiated so they would get paid a certain fee to participate in
the radiation of their testicles. Special arrangements were made
so Catholics couldn't participate in the study because they
couldn't use birth control so they might give birth to
genetically mutated children ... so it had to be only
non-Catholic participants. There was an extra fee, it was a
little bit fatter, if you would agree to testicle biopsy to see
if the radiation was dropping the sperm count. When 9 of these
people pressed their case to the State Legislature in Oregon in
either the late 70's or early 80's, in its magnanimity, the
Legislature agreed to compensate them for a total of $3000 for
all nine subjects. So this is the way it goes in trying to
document this stuff and trying to make it public and identify the
specific individuals. IT'S A BIG SLOW JOB. And when you make
Freedom of Information requests it's like interacting with any
Federal Bureaucracy. </p>

<p>In fact the CIA has been extremely helpful, extremely polite,
extremely courteous and when I went to the CIA Reading Room in
Washington, it was a very unusual experience. Let me just tell
you the story. Here I am, a Canadian psychiatrist, going down to
the Eastern Regional Conference, and a day early I pop over to
the CIA Reading Room to look at the MKULTRA documents to figure
out which ones I want to order at 10 cents a page which they then
shipped to me which arrives at my office via UPS with CIA stamped
in the corner ... I'm wondering who thinks that's weird ... so I
show up and it is just this building in Virginia, on a street, it
is completely unrecognizable as anything ... I get dropped off
there ... whoa ... there's all these guys in uniforms and here I
am, this civilian. On the wall there is &quot;Secure Telephone
CIA and DIA Only&quot; and I am kind of standing around and some
guy says &quot;Good Morning Sir&quot; ... I say I am here to read
some CIA documents. I am supposed to show up at this location at
this time and here is the letter ... and they're going, CIA jeez
... who are we going to phone ... are you supposed to tell
somebody you are here, or how is this supposed to work? Well, I
don't know, I was just told to show up here ... he says, well, we
don't know who was supposed to meet you ... so I say, well, could
I use your phone ... not that phone ... this phone over here. I
phone my secretary and ask what's the telephone number of the
contact person? She gives it to me and I tell them you're
supposed to contact this person at this phone number. It's okay,
they say, they're going to be down in a minute. So then I sign in
... I am escorted up the elevator ... it's all military guys and
I'm in the elevator thinking okay which one of these guys is
doing surveillance on me? I come up to the floor and I am walking
along and it's a federal building and the floor is under repair
... there's all kinds of construction stuff lying around, and
construction guys ... I go walking along accompanied by this CIA
person, and I go into the first room which has a steel vault door
and says &quot;Secured Area: Treasury Department&quot; ... I go
into that room and they close the door. I am now in a Secured
Area. She says Okay sign in here ... I think I signed in ... I
forget. Then I go through another Secured steel door into a
second Secured Area except I can't enter that Secured Area except
from another Secured Space. I sit down and they bring in all the
documents on a little cart and she gives me 15-20 pencils
beautifully sharpened, and a notepad and everything ... you order
which documents you want at the end of the day ... and there's a
woman who is at least 80, if not 85, who is a retired volunteer,
sitting there watching me all day. In the room that I am in, that
is a Secured Space has a door opened back to the hallway that I
came down from the elevator to come to the first Secured Space to
go into the ... I am sitting there working away on this huge
amount of documents all day ... work work work work ... some time
in the middle of the day this old woman comes at me, now I am
thinking, is this old woman trying to pump me for information,
what's here report going to be back at the end of the day? She
says, &quot;well, what's that stuff you are reading?&quot; I am
trying to act casually, I just say, &quot;Well, it's just a bunch
of mind control documents from the 50's and 60's.&quot; And she
says well, is that stuff classified, and I say, no, no, it was
declassified a long time ago, and she says, well what do they
need me here for? I go, I don't know and then I stopped talking
to her and I started focusing down on the paper. So then I get
distracted by a couple of black guys who are walking down the
corridor who have something to do with the construction. The 85
year old woman who is watching me has to go to the restroom so
they are assigned to watch me from the door. They're some black
guys who start joking around, oh oh this guy's pretty dangerous,
we'll have to watch him ... then at the end of the day I leave.
That's my experience at the CIA. But the main contact person is
very friendly, very polite, very efficient, very helpful ... and
it's through this process, I mean they have given me these
documents, they are the ones who have made it possible to prove
that the CIA has been creating Manchurian Candidates ... I have
all these other requests on MKSearch, MKNAOMI, and stuff and I am
going to put one in on Stargate. If you want to do a request on
an individual, it turns out that you have to establish his place
and date of birth, his full name, his date of death, the fact
that he was an American citizen, and you have to have public
documentation of his death before they will do a search. Which is
the proper protection of people. So you have to do all of this
background research to find out when did Carl Pfeiffer die, and
where did he died, and get a newspaper clipping from Atlanta to
document that. Then you said all that information into them, and
he asks for information on this particular guy and they send you
back the MKULTRA documents that you already have, that you
already know is due to him, except now his name is not whited
out. So a lot of it is just dealing with a Federal Bureaucracy
and it's just REALLY REALLY SLOW and they say ... we've only got
two secretaries and we've got a million requests and we are too
overloaded and we don't have our new computer system but we are
working on it ... it's it's just a VERY VERY SLOW LABORIOUS
PROCESS TO GET THIS STUFF. If it is already declassified and it
is indexed, then you can get it fairly quickly ... like the
MKULTRA stuff. If it is just being organized and isn't yet
declassified, then you get in a line, and you are piggybacked on
top of the first requester. When the first requester gets the
stuff, you will get it as well. MKSEARCH? I have been waiting for
a couple of years already. So it's like ... you're trying to
change the way agriculture is administered in the USA ... it's
this huge laborious process, and you are just trying to egg the
bureaucracy on and on and on ... But just to kind of repeat the
editorial comment, basically I don't have a beef with the
Intelligence Agencies. My beef is with the psychiatrists and the
psychologists. Questions or comments? Q. Do I know if I am being
surveilled? A. I have been approached by millions of people at
conferences. I don't know if any of them are operatives or not. I
have had no negative, scary, frightening, intimidations, threats,
my office hasn't been broken into, no mail tampering, nothing has
gone missing, no patients have done anything weird or dangerous
towards me, nobody has disappeared, no dead chickens on my
doorstep ... nobody has hustled me into a black car and all of a
sudden I am in Topeka, Kansas and I don't know how I got there.
Nothing like that has happened, so I just assume that if it
hasn't happened by now, it's already too late, like what's the
point? Part of this story, and it is the personal side of it, is,
how do you work your way through all this material and get more
and more and more of these connections and not succumb to
terminal paranoia? And it's really just sort of a Zen ... the Zen
of investigating military mind control ... you just have to stay
centered and decide not to be paranoid ... not let it get to you.
Because you can get off into how many witnesses to the JFK
assassination are dead, and what about Pan Am 103, what about
Timothy McVeigh's computer chip in his buttock ... you can really
get out there real fast. When he was first arrested, Timothy
McVeigh said he had a computer chip implanted in his buttock ...
On the other hand, I hope Intelligence Agencies are not so fast
asleep ... basically ... it is narcistically injurious to think
they are not paying any attention at all ... I can't take that. I
know for a fact they have a file on me because I have filed
millions of Freedom of Information Act requests. The other thing
I know is I got my Green Card in 1994 at the highest level of
Green Card there is ... it's a level where you don't have to even
have a job ... or any visible sign of support ... and I got this
Immigration lawyer who put my whole c.v., and all my
publications, and letters from people together, and so that
involves, obviously, a security screen by the State Department
which means connected to Justice and connected to FBI etc etc so
I know I have been screened through all that kind of mechanism
and come out ... in fact, I had to go to Calgary for the Green
Card and the consulate came up and shook my hand and said,
&quot;boy I bet you we've got a lot if dissociation disorders
right here ... we could really use you.&quot; [lots of laughter]
Q. unintelligible A. I think they are trying to pretend that they
are not going to get uncovered and just carry on with life and
enjoy their retirements ... Over all, what's going on now ... I
assume that there is still a lot of research funding through
cutouts with unwitting investigators ... I assume there is a
bunch of witting investigators. There is another arm going on
currently ... that's artificial intelligence Overall, what is
going on now? I assume that there is still a lot of funding of
research through cutouts with unwitting investigators. I assume
there is a bunch of witting investigators. Let me tell you about
another arm that is going on currently. That is artificial
intelligence research. I know that, for instance, Marvin Merskey
at MIT, in his book, &quot;The Society of Minds&quot;, he
acknowledges his extensive Office of Naval Research Funding. That
goes back to John Lilly who is tied into the LSD network who
treated dolphins with LSD - he was involved in communication with
dolphins - it is a documented fact they have been used to swim up
to ships to blow them up - with bombs attached to the dolphins
during the Vietnam War. We hear weird stuff from patients
sometimes about dolphins and mind control. John Lilly is tied
into the LSD network and I have him attending CIA sponsored LSD
symposia. He invented the flotation tank - flotation tank is in
network in all the sensory deprivation stuff and mixed in with
hallucinogens. He wrote a program on metaprogramming and the
human computer which is an early artificial intelligence treatise
that basically defines a modularity model of the human mind which
is the dominant model of neuronetworks, all that area of
artificial intelligence and a whole bunch of different Office of
Naval Research funding. That is ongoing up to the present ...
there is Office of Naval Research funding for this kind of
project ... also for rat physiology, rat psychology ... research
that has to do with modularity of brain functions and modularity
of memory which all is directly relevant to creating Manchurian
Candidates because you want to know the modular organization of
the brain. Q. ____ A. If the hypothesis is that ... now I am not
saying that everybody on the FMSF Advisory Board consciously is
aware of this ... most of them are totally out to lunch and have
never heard of it or thought of it ... the point would be that
the Intelligence Agencies have somehow penetrated the FMS
movement and are trying to spin it in that direction and amplify
it for those purposes and candidate people for Intelligence
oversight would be Martin Orne, Joly West, Richard Ofshe, etc.
Maybe Michael Persinger. So if that is the hypothesis, the basic
thing is to cover up government created Manchurian Candidates,
why are all the patients coming in with SRA stories? Well, that
could be just accidentally related and just part of a cultural
hysteria and not real. The other paranoid conspiracy theory is
that the Intelligence Agencies sub-contracted the cults to prime
the children to be good subjects for really really complicated
Manchurian Candidates. Because if you just start with G.I. Joe at
age 19, you can't get intensely polyfragmented multi layers of
defense system in place very easily. One of the pieces of logic
that I didn't mention is ... if you go back to G.H. Estabrooks in
WWII, he is creating one alter personality in an adult recruit.
Let's look at the stages the computer is at during WWII and run
up to 1996. We have to postulate that the technical advance and
the increase in complexity in mind control research operations is
at least somewhat parallel to the complexity of artificial
intelligence, all the rest of science, etc. So if they are still
doing it, it's got to be a lot more complicated. You can't get to
a lot more complicated from a foundation of a normal 18 year old
military recruit ... so that's the ultimate in paranoid
conspiracy theory. It's a matter of putting windows in the
program ... the first window that comes open is the SRA -- the
window behind that is the military mind control. Alternatively
the whole SRA thing itself could be deliberate disinformation
that has been implanted in the culture. Broaden the question a
little bit. What's my political recommendation on what should be
the legal liability of government induced Manchurian Candidates
for criminal acts that they have perpetrated? I would say that we
should have a double amnesty program. And this is for strategic
purposes. Politics is the art of the impossible. Some people
could say this is unethical and this is caving in and playing the
game. I think we have to have a double amnesty program for any
criminal acts conducted by government induced Manchurian
Candidates in the course of the government operations-and also
amnesty for their handlers. Because if we don't have that, then
the drive to keep it all covered up is too great. My basic
argument is that the Intelligence Community has been sold a bogus
bill of goods by these guys, like G.H. Estabrooks and all his
heirs down the line. It is overkill, it is unnecessary, it's
ridiculous ... you can just drop it ... and there will be no
operational loss. Do I know that for a fact? I haven't got the
faintest idea. But that's what I propose to them-they could do
their own analysis. If we are going to stop it, and let it come
out to the public, that will never happen if the individual
handlers and operators in the Intelligence Community are going to
be nailed in public and personally responsible. So there has to
be a double amnesty program ... but then there has to be
financial compensation for the victims who get identified. That
is less likely to happen if the compensation comes out of the
Intelligence budget- therefore, it ought to come out of general
Federal funds-not to reduce Intelligence funding-otherwise you
have set up systemic disincentive for this stuff to ever be
declassified. However, that should not cover drug, pimping, and
other operations run on the side by handlers doing Manchurian
Candidates. Q.__ A. This is an extremely tricky question that you
are asking. Why does a government created multiple get off the
hook and a domestic created multiple doesn't? The domestic
created multiple is not going to be happy. I will give the reason
I don't let the domestic created multiple off the hook-really
quickly-it is that it destroys the foundation of recovery. The
foundation of recovery is &quot;you are not insane, you're not
out of control, it's something you created inside yourself to
survive, you can un-learn it, and be well.&quot; And part of
healing is being responsible for what you do now. If we don't do
that, the whole unit gets behaviourally out of control. So, like
it or not, we hold people responsible for the behaviour of their
alters, and I don't view DID as grounds for an insanity defense
in and of itself. So then you are going to say, well why doesn't
that then apply to these government created people? Well, I just
think it is different. When you've been deliberately,
systematically experimented on by a government, you deserve a bit
of a break for actions which you have committed as part of your
government assignment ... in other words, if you are a Manchurian
Candidate and you are just out in the world and you go out and
rape somebody, good, you do the crime, you do the time, that's my
attitude. I am only talking about crimes that they have
committed, specifically on assignment for the military
Intelligence Agencies. They are basically soldiers at war. Q. __
A. Where does Charter Hospital fit in? I would like to know if
Charter fits in anywhere. One thing that I would be willing to
do, would be to run a classified unit for treatment of these
individuals. I would be very happy to do that and to negotiate a
Management Services Contract with the Federal government to do
that- R. Q. __ A. Does any of my work support Cory Hammond's talk
at the Regional Eastern Conference in 1992 for which he has been
attacked and ridiculed about Dr. Green and all that? Not
directly. Indirectly, and when you tie into the Paperclip
conspiracy ... I am getting the documentation much closer to
conclusion, that, if not Dr. Green, some psychological warfare
experts must have been brought over from Nazi Germany. So that
part of it is no longer kooky. I think that Cory Hammond made a
strategic error by going too far out beyond his documentation too
fast, and leaving himself exposed to ridicule. Although I am
thankful to him that he did that because then I learned
alternative strategies. Q. ___ A. The whole way that the tobacco
industry is set up ... regulated, not regulated, funded, lobbied,
and the disinformation campaign that it is run by the tobacco
companies-is basically effective-they are still being sold and
they are still making a profit off of killing people. So you
could say that's like a lung control experimentation program that
has been run by the tobacco companies and everybody is just kind
of, in effect, letting it go by. Except actually the medical
profession and the public has gotten on tobacco way more than
they have ever gotten on mind control ... but we will change that
with the book and the movie. (Laughter and much applause) </p>

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