-Caveat Lector- -----Original Message----- From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 2:33 PM Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Dr. X's Files: Paranormal Phenomena...or "Miracles". >Dear Centre For The Scientific Investigation of the Paranormal: > > Further to the invitation on your web site to "ask the answer man", let me ask a few questions to help you and The Wizard (JR) adjust to (scientific) reality: > > It is very scientific to give definitions, don't you agree? Now, JR thinks that this is just "semantics" but any bona fide scientist is very careful about definitions. Let us define phenomena considered to be "paranormal" and then ask if such phenomena happen in reality. > >What if something (anything) can be both here and there at the same time? Sometimes the term "bi-location" is used. I think there are anecdotes of Padre Pio being seen at two places at the same time. >I'm not going to deal with whether this particular case is valid or not. I just present it as an example of what you might deal with in field observations of X Files. Bi-location is a paranormal phenomenon. Do you have any sound reason for saying that a large object which allegedly bi-locates fits the definition of a paranormal phenomena to be proved or disproved while a small object which bilocates is not a paranormal phenomenon? > Obviously the reason I mention this is that quantum effects include bi-location as in the Two Slit Experiment. See http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm Chapter 10, "Robotwilightzone". The standard interpretation of this experiment by (very scientific) physicists is that when the second slit is opened the SAME particle acts as if it is going through both slits at the same time. If it is not both here and there at the same time, what then is another explanation for the results? >Furthermore, do you know any reason why such quantum effects could not occur with larger physical units? For example at http://www.quantum.univie.ac.at/research/c60 we are told about laboratory demonstrated quantum effects with molecules. At the theory level, the Oxford Centre for Quantum Computation, http://www.qubit.org/ talks about a "...Multiverse, which contains many universes like ours, interacting through quantum interference". (By the way, I think the "Spooky Agent" Fox Mulder from TV X Files was said to have been educated in psych/parapsych at Oxford). > >Now I can go on to other paranormal phenomena to help cure your "adjustment disorder" but I want to see if you can accept reasoning with this one example before I waste my time. You will be much better off if you accept the scientific realities of this world. I refer to James Randi's "naive rationalism" and pseudo-science repeatedly in Machine Psychology. He is prejudiced, ie he pre-judges what can and cannot happen in nature...and that is NOT SOUND SCIENCE. When I designed and taught SS205, Parapsychology, at Douglas College I presented it as the scientific investigation of the paranormal. I didn't have a prejudice for or against any alleged paranormal phenomenon. What I taught first was that there are many mysteries in nature, mysteries which will expectedly go on without known limit. We then let nature tell us what is and is not reality. By the way, when Life Gazette was a tabloid, I wrote under the pen name of Dr. X and that was years before the TV X Files so I can lay claim to my own X Files. These X Files may help you to deal with scientific reality but first you need an "attitude adjustment". The attitude required is one of honest acceptance of what reality tells you reality is. Are you willing to make such a "leap of faith" beyond your present dogmatic naive rationalism? >Sincerely-FWP. > > >[Attachments have been removed from this message] > >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! >Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in >forms and passwords with just one click! 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