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> >I don't envy religionists at this point in time. It could happen at any
> >moment.
> >Some discovery will be made which will put some people's favorite mythology
> >to rest. I see this as a good thing.
> >
> >Joshua2
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> J2, I claim that the Bible is history; OT and NT. They go together perfectly
> and you can't really understand one without the other. If you can't believe
> the entire Bible is true, you will never understand the multiple layers of
> it. Try looking at it with a new eye, huh? I understand that you are Jewish
> and don't take the NT as true, but I know that it is. I read the Hebrew OT
> as well as the Greek NT, and believe me, they do go together. Pennie
I don't want to argue theology. Religious mythology is not history. To keep
religion active and profitable means that there is a conspiracy afoot. The
conspiracy consists of people who make a lot of money off of the other co-
conspirators who also benefit from religion by having a large group of people
lie to each other and themselves and constantly reassure each other that
they are not insane.
You need to learn more about your religion. You need to learn about the
period between the death of Jesus and the canonization of the New Testament.
You should study about the relationship between James ( the Just, another
son of Mary's, and brother of Jesus') the leader of the Christian movement, and
Paul the inventor of the religion you practice. What about the Council of
Niceae where they finally decided to turn Jesus into a deity after 300 years
of dispute among the different Christian sects. This is history. Why? Because
other people wrote about these events and corroborate each others stories.
Simply saying that the NT is history doesn't make it so, just as claiming that
a cow is an elephant doesn't make it so. Even if you have 600,000,000 buddies
who make the same claim.
Here is why...
NT- Luke has Jesus born in the time of Herod who died in 4 BCE. But he also
has the holy family moving from Galilee to Bethlehem because of the Roman
Census called by Quirinius the Governor of Syria.
J2- The one and only Roman Census conducted by Quirinius took place in
Judea ( not Galilee ) in 6-7 "AD" Luke was a very bad historian and made
many stupid errors while inventing his " Gospel."
NT- The Slaughter of the innocents.
J2- Never happened. No record of such an event in Jewish or Roman records.
The Jews would certainly reported a masacre of their children by Herod
because they hated him for occupying the Jewish throne and being a Roman
puppet.
NT- Jesus is of Davidic descent as per OT prophesy.
J2- a:Jesus' bloodline in Luke is 41 generations while his bloodline in
Matthew's Gospel consists of 27 generations between David and Joseph.
b:No one could possibly trace bloodlines for a thousand years.
c:Mary's bloodline was irrelevant since inheritance was patrilinial.
d:Joseph was not Jesus' daddy anyway.
NT- The Passover Privilege. Where Pilate lets the crowd choose the release
of a prisoner.
J2- Never happened. No such thing ever occurred ANYWHERE in the Roman empire.
NT- Carrying the cross.
J2- Mark= Simon of Cyrene carries the cross for Jesus.
John= Jesus carries his own cross.
NT- Judas' death.
J2- Hangs himself in Matthew. Bursts open in Acts.
NT- Jesus was crucified noon of Good Friday and was buried just before
sundown. The tomb was found empty on Easter Sunday at sunrise.(Matthew)
J2- "(OT)Jonah was in the sea monster's belly for three days and three nights,
and in the same way the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in
the bowels of the earth" (Matt. 12:40)
If Matthew knew how to count to three, you couldn't tell by what he wrote
in the resurrection story. Two nights and one day do not equal 3 days.
You understand don't you that this stuff IS NOT HISTORY. It's poor quality
religious propaganda. You can make any claims for it that you wish, but if
you claim that it's history, you make a fool of yourself because it's so
obvious that it's not.
Joshua2
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