From: "JP Viken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

SAIC = Strategic Applications International Corporation and they own Network
Solutions and the "standards organization for secure banking over the
internet", and they also own Telcordia which evolved from Belcore (their new
moto for Telecordia is  "we started it, we'll finish it!" and they use the
saic trademark at bottom of ad).  Belcore is a new internet technology
agency (Board members of SAIC?  Bobby Ray Inmate is a key board member along
with maybe caspar "the ghost" weinbuggeryou). If you want the names of the
rest of the spook board members maybe try a search like this: "newsgroups" +
"saic" on deja.com  ----  During the gulf war, saic ran a "remote viewing"
covert op in saudi arabia to identify and explore targets "before & after"
they were bombed and attacked.   Network Solutions is the main addressing
entity for the whole web (internet).  I can't tell you more without
violating the law since it is illegal to identify us undercover intel agents
unless you are sure they are committing habitual criminal rico acts, or
committing single premeditated criminal acts on their own, or breaking
federal laws regarding their scope of operations, and I do not have
immediately clear and convincing evidence of this (intel ops to spy on "the
people" with no probable cause and now warrants inside the us is a "no-no"
for many agencies according to the law--note the cia has no authorization
for any ops here, but does it anyhow, as you know).   SAIC allegedly has a
special ops team which can send some of the best "silver bullets" up your
modem and into your system you could ever imagine.  These folks are the
elite's elite when it comes to fifth column electronic ops.  Within two or
three years they will have the clear means to take down and take control of
the whole world's banking and telcommunications systems in "one fell swoop".
Mike, if you have been receiving saic "silver bullets" up your modem, this
means only one or two things:   either you have somehow discovered something
much bigger than you realize or you have walked into the middle of something
very big that you are not yet aware of or do not fully understand.  You may
not fully understand what it is you uncovered that "they" are so desperately
afraid of.  Sometimes we can't see the forrest through the trees.

There are considerable rumors circulating in the intel community that if
baby b comes up from his now underdog status to win, thereby continuing the
manufacturing of consent, then the cointelpro-novo folks at the fb* will be
mounting massive, far reaching intercept and harassment ops to shut off any
info regarding ghwb rico type, habitual drug trafficking and the shady
family histories.  If this comes to pass most of us on the list and many
others will have to batten down the hatches and weather the storm which will
ensue, cause they will be a breathin down our necks and beatin on our
backs"!

Mike, here's the best and quickest solution to the war on drugs and the war
on terrorism  (both exceedingly expensive in financial and human terms):

Solution #1 for immediately ending the war on drugs:  Attention:  all covert
ops who have been involved in any manner in trafficking in drugs into the
usa, whether controlled deliveries or other (now, you know who you
are--you've been feeling very guilty about what you've done now that you're
getting older--you know you'd secretly like to do the right thing and come
clean for spreading death and destruction by bringing drugs in!):  You just
can't be fooled by your overloards which are treasonous traitors anymore who
claim the false cloak of "protecting national security" when all they are
doing is using you and their other underlings to oppress and kill the public
to extend the power of the elites their serve which you now know have no
souls. You just can't be fooled by these treasonous traitors anymore who
claim the false cloak of "protecting national security" when all they are
doing is using you and their other underlings to oppress and kill the public
to extend the power of the elites their serve which you now know have no
souls.   Arrest yourself immediately and surrender to the nearest us
magistrate judge.  You can cut a deal for complete immunity if you move
quickly.  And remember, you will feel clean inside like you've not felt for
many years!

Solution #2 for immediately ending the war on terrorism:  Attention:  all
covert ops who have been involved in any manner in "agent provocateur" acts
of terrorism and destruction inside the usa, whether you placed an explosive
device, set the timers, made illegal entries, snipered innocent women and
children or did the planning of terrorist acts (now, you know who you
are--you've been feeling very guilty about what you've done now that your
getting older--you know you'd secretly like to do the right thing and come
clean for spreading death and destruction by blowing up buildings, making
illegal crash entries for unlawful drug busts, and terrorizing the public,
especially women, children, the old and the infirm and shooting unarmed,
inocent people to death!):
You now fully realize all that stuff they told you about protecting national
security is just so much crap and that the only ones benefitting are the
"fat cat" top bureacrats and their overlords.  You just can't be fooled
anymore by your overloards who are treasonous traitors who claim the false
cloak of "protecting national security" when all they are doing is using you
and their other underlings to oppress and kill the public to extend the
power of the elites their serve which you now know have no souls.  You just
can't be fooled by these treasonous traitors anymore who claim the false
cloak of "protecting national security" when all they are doing is using you
and their other underlings to oppress and kill the public to extend the
power of the elites their serve which you now know have no souls.  Arrest
yourself immediately and surrender to the nearest us magistrate judge.  You
can cut a deal for complete immunity if you move quickly.  And remember, you
will feel clean inside like you've not felt for many years!




----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] copvcia down ?


> From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Jim:
>
> All this flattery will give me a big head. The problem is that - when some
> in this quest achieve a little success - then "pride goeth before the
fall."
>
> The Wilson story is hitting huge EVERYWHERE. I got some info out of Senate
> Select yesterday.
>
> I gotta stay humble and stay alert. I'm trying to make the time for some
new
> business ideas that can make us all more sustainable. You'll be hearing
more
> on that later.
>
> Keep the cards and letts coming.
>
> BTW, what's saic (I know Special Agent in Charge which goes by the acronym
> SAC. But what's saic?)
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JP Viken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 2:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] copvcia down ?
>
> From: "JP Viken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Mike, its saic that has a board full of so called ex-spooks (actually in
> deep cover ops, "retirement type" like phillips was before he died due to
> ci* flu--if it will make you feel any better you can be sure thay will all
> get theirs when the "their watch is up" to protect "national
security"--they
> all know its coming eventually but they just don't like thinking about
it!).
> Saic sends the silver bullets at own decision or as favor to
novo-cointelpro
> boys at fb*, or as a favor to mooss*d, ci*, di*, d*d,  us just-us dept,
> aaddeeyell, kr*ll & associates, wackemout, etc., etc. (there are currently
> 37 govt intelligence agencies on line and over 125 deniable proprietary
"off
> the books" intel agencies).   I have it from a deep cover source that pgp
> was comprimised right from the start and the only encryption that actually
> works is when complex multifaceted, curvilinear keys and passed hand to
hand
> and shared with no-one else.
>
> Take all these silver bullets from saic as badges of honor to a true
> american patriot and hero which you clearly are.
> Of course, you have really hit paydirt with your investigating to get this
> reaction.  You have more courage, integrity and heart in your litle finger
> than these scum have amoung all of themselves put together.  The best
thing
> they could ever do is arrest themselves and eport to the nearest us
> magistrate for prosecution for rico crimes.  I can assure you that many
> members of these agencies are very disgruntled and I expect mass rebellion
> breaking out this year.  You and many of us will be shocked and surrised
> when these govt  rico criminal systems start unraveling.   These scum know
> they have only so much time to take us completely totalitarian and its
over
> for them.  I thinks its likely too late for them already. They will
probably
> try to get us nuked first by the chinese or the russians or both rather
than
> let the system purge them.  There now seems to be a populist movement in
> this country amoung law enforcement, govt agency wokers and sectors of the
> public which is unstoppable.    I would expect there will be quite a
number
> of underlings, cutouts and old cold warriors getting the flu in some form
> and twepped some other ways shortly. They have become too much of a
> liability.
> Their overlords have already decided they must go and go now.
>
> The treasonous,  pedophile, murdering, drug dealing rico type scum that
run
> our just-us dept and agencies
> will all get theirs in due time from each other. Remember, they eat each
> other as they try to claw to the top of their heap, just like the mafia
only
> 1000 times worse.  They trust each other much less than they trust us and
> they lke to kill each other as they claw their way up to the top of the
> garbage pile.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 2:44 AM
> Subject: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] copvcia down ?
>
>
> > From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Dear Dave, et al:
> >
> > I have been having terrible problems changing over to a new DSL service
> and
> > awaiting installation or lines. Don't ask me to explain. The web site
was
> > down from Wed night thru Sunday last.
> >
> > I usually regard people who suspect sabotage at routine glitches as
> > basically hysterical and too quick to jump to conclusions to justify
what
> we
> > all know as frustration and technical impotence - or the fear thereof.
> >
> > However, I can categorically state, with a certainty, that having
> > investigated like a detective, I am convinced that since I wiggled some
> > tiger cages in Brussels - last week, notably Mark Richard's at Justice,
I
> > have had e-mail problems that can be explained no other way.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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