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I have been following this talk and
it is great! McKenna's "food of the gods" is a good referance book for
any good preacher of the word.
my reason for writing is that I've
been down here from Philadelphia for the last three years and have been
unfortunately Shroomless : ( I have searched
through more cow shit than a little but no luck. my studies show that the Wac
Indians used maskel beans. You would think being so close to the Holy land there
would be plenty of Manna.
Question: what is the deal on the Shrooms in Waco
(City of the Noble One)?
Andrew
This is my first post to this list, so greetings
everyone...I've been interested in Manna and psychedelics for a while now
and I agree with the "shroom theory". Soaking shrooms in
honey for a long time will result in a stained blue and psychedelic
honey...I liked the idea so much that I created www.bluehoney.org - This is my
reply:
>>"Something falling from heaven is
entirely different than something springing from the earth. The Israelites
just couldn't have been so stupid they could not tell that
difference...."
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No one saw anything fall from the sky,
the Manna appeared overnight with the morning dew (also they had no roots
like other plants that they were familiar with). Now, I wouldn't call
anyone stupid but the Israelites did wander for 40
years, you can't do that without going in a lot of circles. Besides...look
at what these people did before they left Egypt...they were slaves, not
gardeners. This is ignorance, not stupidity. How many Israelites could have
had a mushroom experience before they escaped Egypt? None, hence the name
Manna - meaning "What is it?" - Whatever it was, it was important
enough to preserve for future generations and keep in the Ark of the
Covenant.
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>>"Shrooms in the desert!?!
No way. Too dry. Need rain and cow pies. Trust me".
-- Exodus
16-14 "And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of
the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on
the ground."...... Frost? Dew? Wilderness? Is this a desert?? Need
grass, trees and moisture. Trust me.
As for cows, well (to quote that
web-page about Manna) "again referring to the Bible, it is clear that
the children of Israel had journeyed to a land where there was dew in the
morning. As a large, nomadic tribe, the Israelites brought a lot of cattle
and sheep together in the area. That meant a great deal of manure. The
change of climate from the arid lands of Egypt to the dewy climate of the
wilderness created ideal conditions for the propagation and spread of
psilocybe mushrooms in livestock
dung."
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>the taste of it was like wafers
made with honey(l6:31)...
>>Wrong!
>>After trying
EVERY conceivable methos of eating those babies without gagging, the ONLY
way we ever found that was tasteless (later in life the taste of freeze
dried Kubensis didn't even really bother us that much any more), is to make
a REAL ice cream shake out of them. That is the ONLY way that we ever
found that even the slightest taste of them is not detectable...and we
tried ALL KINDS of things using honey in my day....to no
avail!
-- Wrong!
I have mushrooms that have been soaking in
honey for many months (that's what blue honey is), you don't even need to
eat the mushrooms, just the honey will do; but if you did you would not
taste anything but sweet honey. Is there any other natural preservative
other than honey?
John 6-56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh
my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
He is saying pretty clearly
that the eating and drinking is physical. My body is flesh indeed, and My
blood is drink indeed, and the added statement that when you eat, it is
inside of you leaves little room for debate that this is a substance and not
a phantom symbol alone. For those who choose to debate this I ask that they
show me their substance because according to Jesus' words unless you eat and
drink of "IT" you have no life in you. By the way, do I really
need to mention that this is not some strange reference to Cannibalism? I
sure hope not.
John 6-31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as
it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.
John 6-32 Then
Jesus said unto them, verily verily I say unto you, Moses gave you not that
bread from heaven; but my father giveth you the true bread from
heaven.
John 6-34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us
this bread.
John 6-35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of
life.
John 6-41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am
the bread that came down from heaven.
John 6-43 Jesus therefore
answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
John 6-48 I
am that bread of life.
John 6-56 He that eateth my flesh, and
drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
Rev 2-17 He that
hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit sait unto the Churches; to him
that overcometh will i give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a
white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth
saving he that receiveth it.
If you are interested in this and
want to read more - there are many books out there: http://www.bluehoney.org/Books.htm Begin
with "The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross" by Jon
Allegro
What I suggest that you do is this: Go here: http://www.bluehoney.org/Mankind1.htm
and start reading, this text is divided into 4 large sections and it will
answer a lot of your questions about Manna and many other Christian
symbols.
(- andy Web-master http://www.bluehoney.org
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