-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> </A> -Cui Bono?- forwarded from Roger - there is mention of USAID (CIA front) as well as other company involvement in the triangle area. My reply to Roger: Oh, goodness... it's that Knights of Malta feller again... Absolutely certainly this fella would have the resources to do as he offers. He also is mentioning specifically USAID, a known CIA proprietary/front. It appears that he is requesting aid in obtaining a $2million tax deduction in return for donating used (obsolete?) medical equipment, to be used, one would imagine, in a typically Papal/western Xian cultural Imperialist manner (origins of the U.S., smallpox infested blankets as presents to "Indians" [Native Americans] comes immediately to mind). Far, FAR better that these refugees be treated by AMURT or some other Org. which would provide holistic healthcare, and PERHAPS be more respectful of Karenni culture. Suggest this Good Knight donate said goods without arranging transport, liquidate goods for cash, apply cash toward refugee's needs. Further suggest someone contact AMURT http://www.amurt.net/ & "Physicians without Borders" & it's subsidiary (my personal favorite) -- Homeopaths Sans Frontieres / Homeopaths without Borders: Dutch section: Dr. Martien Brands E-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> California, US: Nancy Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Canada: Heather Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Forwarding Kosovo report from Homeopaths Without Borders in following email.. kind regards, Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave -----Original Message----- From: Roger Bunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 6:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BURMA The Agency and "Knights of ye olde Malta variety"? A Knights Research. A selected posting. Embargoed info, not for publication. Media : Please do not contact those involved. >>One thing I noticed, if Dana Rohrabacher is involved you are up to your but in the CIA. As a youngster making his bones he was at the Ambassador Hotel the night Bobby Kennedy was assassinated. It's in the LAPD records of that night and Dana was involved with peculiar activities which I will not describe here. >I will read your other message when I have time. > >M... --------- -----Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 5:56 PM Subject: Karenni report ROHRABACHER CODEL TO ASIA EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: BURMESE KARENNI REFUGEES The delegation visited camps for the Karenni tribal refugees from Burma in Mae Hong Son Province of Thailand, located in the Golden Triangle area of the mountainous Thai-Burma border on January 15-16, 2000. Congressman Rohrabacher, Al Santoli and Jeff Baxter were accompanied by US State Department Regional Refugee Officer Jeff Rock, Karenni Foreign Minister Abel Tweed, International Rescue Committee Dr. Robin Nandy and local Thai officials. In Burma, the SLORC regime continues to persecuting and forcibly relocating Karenni villagers from Karenni State. Some Karennis forced to be porters and human mine detectors in SLORC army. Others are forced to join "militia" to be SLORC shock troops or cannon fodder against brother Karennis. There is a free fire zone by SLORC on Burma side Salawin River near mountainous border. New arrivals came during the dry season - December through May. The largely Christian Karennis do not have a record of any sort of drug trafficking and were allies of the US during World War II. Thailand has been generous in permitting the Karennis to build mountainside village-type camps for temporary asylum. The situation in Burma remains extremely hazardous for the Karennis. In order to persuade the Thai government to sustain asylum, the US Congress should continue to appropriate earmarked funds to support the camps. In addition, to create good will among the Thais, US NGOs can provide support and materials to assist local Thai villagers. CAMPS: Currently more than 16,750 Karennis living in four camps in Mae Hong Son. Many others live unregistered along border outside of camps. During 1999, some 2,000 new Karenni refugees entered camps in Mae Hong Song area. An estimated 18,000 unregistered Karennis live outside of the camps. An additional 19,000 Karen [a separate tribe] refugees live in two camps in Mae Hong Son. Total registered Burmese tribal refugees in Thai camps: 116,000. These include: 16,630 Karennis; 88,795 Karens; and 10,622 Mons. MEDICAL NEEDS: In the Karenni camps, the International Rescue Committee and the Jesuit relief Service provide medical care. The IRC is training Karennis to be medical assistants in camp clinics. USAID provides some funding for camps, as does the UNHCR. Additional funding comes from the relief agencies and the Thai government. Medicines and Medical Texts: The entry camp for Karennis at Ban Noi Soi can always use donated medicines. The IRC doctors and Karenni leaders said that there is a need for medical text books in English language. Donations of medical texts would be appreciated. The IRC and their Karenni employees could translate English texts into Burmese. Dental Care: Another glaring need is for dentists and dental supplies. The IRC would coordinate with volunteer dentists who would like to volunteer in camps. Need mobile and portable manual dental equipment. No electricity in camp, so cannot use high tech equipment. RECOMMENDATIONS: The Thai government in Mae Hong Son feels that the UNHCR is unfairly leaving them with an expense burden for refugee camps. To sustain asylum for the refugees, the following issues should be addressed: 1) Budget: The Province government has no budget for the camps. Money spent on refugee care is taken out of resources for local infrastructure projects. The UNHCR registers refugees, but does not compensate the local government. The governor asked UNHCR to discuss local needs last year, but UNHCR declined. The Thai Ministry of Interior asked UNHCR for $750,000 to reimburse the local government for three Karenni camps and two Karen camps in Mae Hong Son, a total of some 40,000 refugees. 2) Forest depletion: The refugees need for firewood from already deforested areas. The NGOs are promoting turning rice husks into charcoal. However, farmers need the husks for fertilizer. Instead, the governor suggests processing sawdust into artificial logs, from lumber mills throughout northern Thailand. The Governor previously conducted a similar successful project for cooking fuel for Hmong refugees in Loei province. The USAID, NGOs or the UNHCR could help with the cost for a sawdust log project. 3) Donated US equipment: The Governor agreed that if the UNHCR doesn't have the cash to reimburse the local Thai government, that it would be acceptable to be reimbursed in donated new or second-hand equipment that would help the local infrastructure in Mae Hong Son. The Governor will send a list of needed equipment and technology to Congressman Rohrabacher through the Thai Embassy in Washington. Santoli will share the list with NGOs. ========= Knightsbridge International / Artis Re Sir Edward? We discovered him when searching for links between Nam and drug handling, he then turned up on the Burma net from Thailand close to where the Nugan Hand Bankers used to operate, in almost shared premises with (what at times has be known as) the DEA One would "love it" if UK Militry Intel sent us their "research " of the Czar General and who follows. T'would be of most use atm. Coudn't someone giv'em a tinkle? ;-) Was going to copy this Email to Secretary of State's Office, or fax Cinton's office, ;-) in the hope that one could discover exactly what one, "needs to know", but would rather have someone else do that, IF you think its wise. -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: Karenni report Dear Al: On behalf of Dr Sir James Laws, our Board of Directors and myself, I am sending this emailed message to you as our firm commitment in response to your message attached below, to provide $2,000,000.00 dollars worth of used, serviceable ]medical equipment and medicines to the Thai Government during physical 2000 as an offset for their continued provision of care and comfort to the more than 40,000 Karenni and Karen Refugees living in Mae Hong Son Province, Thailand. We will have little problem obtaining many of the items that they will be requesting but would require assistance from USAID, Department of State or one or more of our fellow NGO's such as IRC to provide funding for the packing and shipment of these items to the end user. As always we SALUTE the Congressman, you and your colleagues for the outstanding and most commendable initiatives that you foster. SALUTE.... Sir Edward A Artis, Ph.D.,K.M., KTJ Dr Sir James G Laws, D.O., K.M., KTJ ------------------------- Subject: FW: Karenni report Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 10:09:43 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 roger do the Karenni need this type of support, I think not ------------ A? Please send me the # for Phil huh? Rr <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. 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