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What about all the children they infect ?

What is being done to address THAT !!!!

Blow the lid off this festering caldron of ignorance,
superstition, and stupidity !

Sue the Church into oblivion !!!

Source: Kansas City Star

Catholic priests are dying of AIDS, often in silence

By JUDY L.  THOMAS - The Kansas City Star
Date: 01/29/00 22:15

Related Site:
Special report: AIDS in the Priesthood

Hundreds of Roman Catholic priests across the United
States have died of AIDS-related illnesses, and
hundreds more are living with HIV, the virus that
causes the disease.

The actual number of AIDS deaths is difficult to
determine. But it appears priests are dying of AIDS at
a rate at least four times that of the general U.S.
population, according to estimates from medical
experts and priests and an analysis of health
statistics by The Kansas City Star.

In Missouri and Kansas alone, at least 16 priests and
two religious-order brothers have died of AIDS since
early 1987.

The deaths are of such concern to the church that most
dioceses and religious orders now require applicants
for the priesthood to take an HIV-antibody test before
their ordination.

For the nation's 60 million Catholics, served by
46,000 priests, the AIDS issue goes straight to the
heart of church doctrine -- a doctrine that teaches
compassion and forgiveness but also considers
homosexual relations a sin and opposes the modern
practice of "safe sex."

In a nationwide confidential survey of 3,000 priests
by The Star, two-thirds of the more than 800
responding lauded the church for being caring and
compassionate to priests with AIDS.  Often, the church
covers medical costs, gives them a place to live and
cares for them until they die.

Most priests, however, said the church failed to offer
an early and effective sexual education that might
have prevented infection in the first place.
Two-thirds said sexuality either was not addressed at
all or was not discussed adequately in the seminary.
Three of four said the church needed to offer more
education about sexual issues.

"Sexuality still needs to be talked about and dealt
with," said the Rev.  Dennis Rausch, a priest with
AIDS who runs an AIDS ministry program for Catholic
Charities in the Archdiocese of Miami.

"I've been trying to get into the seminary here for
the last several years to do an awareness course for
the guys, so when they come out, they at least have
some knowledge."

Many priests and behavioral experts argue that the
church's adherence to 12th-century doctrine about the
virtues of celibacy and its teachings on homosexuality
have contributed to the spread of AIDS within the
clergy.  Unwittingly, the church has kept fledgling
priests -- some of whom were as young as 14 when they
entered seminary in the '60s and '70s -- uneducated
about the reality of a sexual world and its

Moreover, by treating homosexual acts as an
abomination and the breaking of celibacy vows as
shameful, the church has scared priests into silence,
some say.

"I think this speaks to a failure on the part of the
church," said Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Gumbleton of the
Archdiocese of Detroit. "Gay priests and heterosexual
priests didn't know how to handle their sexuality,
their sexual drive.  And so they would handle it in
ways that were not healthy.

"How to be celibate and to be gay at the same time,
and how to be celibate and heterosexual at the same
time, that's what we were never really taught how to
do.  And that was a major failing."

Roman Catholic cardinals in the United States and
high-ranking church officials in Rome declined
requests to discuss the issue.  The Vatican referred
questions to local bishops.

In a statement released Saturday, the Rev.  Patrick J.
Rush, vicar general of the Catholic Diocese of Kansas
City-St.  Joseph, said: "The numbers of HIV-AIDS
deaths of ordained clergy pale in comparison to the
tidal wave in our country and throughout the world.
Through their ministries, all of our priests offer
their lives to serve others."

Rush said the Catholic Church has responded with
compassion to those who suffer from AIDS.

"Faith reminds us that the afflicted are our brothers
and sisters, men and women in God's image.  They
deserve our care, respect and support."

In an earlier interview, Bishop Raymond J.  Boland of
the Diocese of Kansas City-St.  Joseph said the AIDS
deaths show that priests are human.

"Much as we would regret it, it shows that human
nature is human nature," Boland said.  "And all of us
are heirs to all of the misfortunes that can be
foisted upon the human race."

Boland thinks church leaders now are doing a better

"I do feel today that a lot of our men get many
opportunities -- the standard of spiritual direction,
the standard of formation is much higher," Boland
said.  "And in all of the seminaries, we have people
who are trained counselors."

Through the years, the issue of AIDS deaths among
priests has been so sensitive that many of those who
later died kept their illnesses a secret.  Some death
certificates listed AIDS-related conditions such as
pneumocystis pneumonia but never mentioned the disease
itself. Other certificates were falsified.

But within the church, many have been touched by the
disease.  To the surprise of researchers and some
church officials, 801 priests responded to The Star's
survey on AIDS and the priesthood -- a response rate
of 27 percent.  Nearly 60 percent said they personally
knew at least one priest who had died of AIDS.  And
one in three said they knew priests who were living
with HIV or AIDS.

The survey had a margin of error of 3.5 percentage

The Rev.  Tom Casey, an Augustinian priest from the
Boston area, cared for a priest who died of AIDS in
1991.  Casey said the church bears some of the blame
for his death.

"They have created a tremendous amount of homophobia,"
Casey said.  "They're schizophrenic in the sense that
they're wonderful when it comes to caring for people,
but on the other hand, most churches don't generally
have a healthy understanding of sexuality."

Casey said his friend, a deeply spiritual man,
contracted AIDS through sexual relations.

"Part of it was repression, denial, and an acting out,
which he realized was inappropriate," Casey said.
"But because of that one part of his life that he had
not addressed openly, it turned out, unfortunately, to
be deadly."

The Catholic Church clearly is not alone.  Clergy in
other denominations also struggle with sexuality and
have died of AIDS. But the Catholic Church's
condemnation of homosexual acts, its requirement that
priests be male and its unique demand of celibacy make
the issue all the more vexing for its followers.

"There are some very strong social implications behind
this," said Robert Goss, a former Jesuit priest who is
now chairman of the Department of Religious Studies at
Webster University in St.  Louis.

Gays are in the priesthood, and not all of them are
celibate, he said.

"Both of those issues are explosive issues that
superiors and bishops don't want to deal with

Goss himself left the priesthood after 11 years when
he fell in love with a seminarian who was just shy of
ordination.  The two became longtime partners.  The
former seminarian died of AIDS in 1992.

Several church leaders respond that the church is
dealing with the issue forthrightly.  Any criticism,
they say, must be tempered by the realization that
many priests wish to keep their medical condition
private, as do many AIDS sufferers outside the church.

Seminary education on sexuality has been slow to
evolve, but so has the acceptance of homosexuality and
the understanding of AIDS in the general population.
Many of today's priests, whose average age is about
60, entered the seminary in the 1960s, the age of
"free love" and sexual experimentation -- not HIV

The church hasn't abandoned its priests who have HIV
or AIDS, some say, and often celebrates their

"There are priests who are gay, there are priests with
AIDS, there are priests who are different that are
doing wonderful ministry," said the Rev.  Jim Nickel,
director of pastoral care for Damien Ministries in
Washington, D.C.

"No matter what their frailties, no matter what their
history, no matter what their differences, there are
people out there who are making a difference."

Hiding the truth Exactly how many priests have died of
AIDS or are infected with HIV is unknown, in part
because many suffer in solitude.

When priests do tell their superiors, the cases
generally are handled quietly, either at the priests'
requests or because church officials are reluctant to
discuss them.

In 1995, Bishop Emerson J.  Moore left the Archdiocese
of New York and went to Minnesota, where he died in a
hospice of an AIDS-related illness.  His death
certificate attributed his death to "unknown natural
causes" and listed his occupation as "laborer" in the
manufacturing industry.

After a Minnesota AIDS activist filed a complaint,
officials changed the cause of death to "HIV-related
illness." The occupation, however, has not been

"I think there's still a lot of shame and dysfunction
there," said Sue Ledbetter, who helped form an AIDS
support group in Wichita in the early 1980s.  "In the
early days, they wouldn't even recognize AIDS on death
certificates.  They would put things like `died of
pneumonia, hepatitis.' And the priests probably did
have those things.  But they got those things because
of complications from HIV and AIDS."

Farley Cleghorn, an epidemiologist with the Institute
of Human Virology in Baltimore, said it was common
practice with early cases not to disclose AIDS as a
cause of death.

"The first priest that I saw with AIDS -- this was
back in 1982 -- we did not put AIDS on the death
certificate, because they wanted us not to," Cleghorn

"The law says that you have to be truthful in that
it's a legal document, and if you lie on a legal
document, you could incur penalties.  But there is no
auditing procedure for a death certificate. And
without lying, you could say that the terminal event
was the stopping of the heart and the cessation of

Cleghorn said he has treated about 20 priests and
religious-order brothers with AIDS, all of whom had
kept it a secret.

"The church and religious orders need to acknowledge
that there is a problem -- that priests have sex and
they are susceptible to all sexually transmitted
diseases, including AIDS," Cleghorn said.

"I think the most important message is that, just like
every other part of the population, priests need sex
education and sexual disease prevention."

In the early 1990s, experts who counseled and treated
priests with AIDS estimated that about 200 in the
United States either had died of AIDS or had
contracted the disease.  Now, those who work with
infected priests say the numbers are higher.

"You're talking several hundred," said the Rev.  Jon
Fuller, a Jesuit priest and physician who serves as
assistant director of Boston Medical Center's Clinical
AIDS Program.

The Star alone -- through death certificates and
interviews with fellow priests and family members --
found information on about 100 priests who have died
of AIDS nationwide since the mid-1980s.

And many priests and medical experts now agree that at
least 300 priests have died.  That translates into an
annualized AIDS-related death rate of about 4 per
10,000 -- four times that of the general population's
rate of roughly 1 per 10,000 and about double the
death rate of the adult male population.

Other statistics and experts suggest that those
estimates are too conservative.

For example, the annualized death rate of priests
confirmed by The Star to have died of AIDS in Kansas
and Missouri from 1987 to 1999 is 7 per 10,000, or
seven times that of the general population.

That death rate is consistent with the rate calculated
by The Star after reviewing death certificates of
priests who died in California, Missouri and
Massachusetts in 1995.  The finding: six priests -- or
7.3 per 10,000 -- died of AIDS in those states that
year.  The AIDS death rate of the general population
in those three states in 1995 was 1.8 per 10,000.

A.W.  Richard Sipe, a former priest who has spent more
than 30 years studying sexuality issues in the church,
thinks that about 750 priests nationwide have died of
such illnesses.  That would translate into an
AIDS-related death rate eight times that of the
general population.

Joseph Barone, a New Jersey psychiatrist and AIDS
expert, puts the number of U.S.  priests who have died
at 1,000 -- nearly 11 times the rate of the general

Barone directed an AIDS ministry from 1983 to 1993 for
students at North American College in Rome.  While
there, he set up an underground AIDS testing program.
Over seven years, he tested dozens of seminarians.
Barone gave them false names, drove them to their
tests in an unmarked car and paid for the tests

"I didn't know who they were; they didn't know who I
was," Barone said.

Of those he worked with, he said, 1 in 12 tested

By the time Barone left Rome, he had treated about 80
priests with AIDS.  Most of them were gay, he said,
and contracted the disease through sexual activity.

"The tragedy is many of them have been so duplicitous
and so closeted," said Barone, a member of the
National Catholic AIDS Network.

"They didn't realize what they were doing, not only to
themselves, but to other individuals, because of the
exponential transmission rate."

Another researcher who has extensively studied the
issue of AIDS within the church is the Rev.  Thomas
Crangle, a Franciscan priest in the Capuchin order in
Passaic, N.J.  In 1990, Crangle conducted a mail
survey of hundreds of priests selected at random.

Crangle said that of the 500 surveys he sent, 398 were
returned. About 45 percent of those responding
volunteered that they were gay, and 92
-- nearly one-fourth -- said they had AIDS.

"I was surprised," Crangle said.  "I felt there was a
problem, but I didn't think it was of that magnitude."

`It's never fair to presume' Many Catholics say it is
irrelevant how the priests contracted AIDS. Some
caution that it would be wrong to assume that all
priests with HIV became infected by engaging in
homosexual activity.

"I would never ask a priest how he got it, just like
nobody asked me two years ago how I got cancer of the
colon," Boland said.  "But I would provide for him.  I
would not write him off and say, `Because you've got
AIDS and because there are doubts about how one can
acquire it, therefore you're not a good priest.' "

HIV is spread most commonly by sexual contact with an
infected partner.  In the early years of the pandemic,
most of those with AIDS in the United States were
white men who contracted HIV through homosexual

The disease also is transmitted through heterosexual
contact, blood transfusions (although the risk is
extremely small today), dirty needles during
intravenous drug use, or from infected mothers to
their babies during pregnancy or birth.

Experts say the incidence of AIDS among priests stems
primarily from sexual contact.

As long ago as the early 1980s, the Rev.  John Keenan
discovered that Catholic priests were contracting AIDS
at an alarming rate.

"We looked at what was taking place in the gay
Catholic population, and there was a lot of concern
about the epidemic proportions of HIV," said Keenan, a
Blessed Sacrament priest and clinical psychologist who
runs Trinity House in Chicago, an outpatient clinic
for priests.

Keenan and his staff developed an anonymous AIDS
testing program, then notified priests, bishops and
superiors of religious communities.

The response surprised him.

"Originally, it was just for people in our region,"
Keenan said.  "And then we started getting people from
all over."

Keenan now runs weekly support sessions for infected
priests.  He believes most priests with AIDS
contracted the disease through same-sex relations.  He
said he treated one priest who had infected eight
other priests.

Charlie Isola, a New York City social worker and
psychotherapist, said all the priests with AIDS that
he has treated are gay men in their 40s to early 60s
who became infected through same-sex relations.

"Some of them had sexual contact in the seminary which
continued after ordination, and some of the men had
their first sexual contact with other priests or with
laymen after they were ordained," Isola said.

Other means of transmission, however, can't be ruled
out, since many priests have served as missionaries in
countries that have poor medical practices.

The Rev.  Luis Olivares, 59, pastor of Our Lady Queen
of Angels Church and an activist who ministered to
poor immigrants in Los Angeles, died of AIDS in March
1993.  Doctors thought Olivares contracted HIV from
contaminated needles while being treated for an injury
during a visit to Central America.

"I think it's important for people to remember that
it's never fair to presume how somebody got it," said
Fuller, the Jesuit priest and doctor.  "It isn't
really relevant."

More important, Fuller said, is the question of when a
person contracted AIDS.  Because the virus has a long
incubation period, a priest may have become infected
before taking his vows, Fuller said.

Others argue that failing to address how the priests
were infected shows that the church is in denial about
the issue.

"The thing about this is it's a public manifestation
of the fact that this guy is sexually active," said
Maureen Fiedler, director of Catholics Speak Out, a
national group based in Hyattsville, Md., that is
critical of some of the church's positions.

"And the church just doesn't want to admit it."

A teachable moment Like some others with AIDS, many
priests keep their illnesses hidden for as long as
they can.  Yet when priests finally do open up, their
bishops or superiors generally treat them with

One of the first priests with AIDS to attract national
attention was the Rev.  Michael R.  Peterson.
Peterson was a priest of the Archdiocese of Washington
and founder of St.  Luke Institute, a psychiatric
hospital in Maryland for Catholic priests and
religious-order men and women.  He died in 1987 at age

The month before Peterson died, he and Washington's
Archbishop James Hickey sent a letter to the priests
of his diocese and to every Catholic bishop and
religious superior in the country.

"I hope that in my own struggle with this disease, in
finally acknowledging that I have this lethal
syndrome, there might come some measure of compassion,
understanding and healing for me and for others with
it -- especially those who face this disease alone and
in fear," Peterson wrote.

Hickey -- now a cardinal -- added, "Father Peterson's
illness reminds us in a personal way of the terrible
human tragedy of AIDS in our midst.  His suffering
challenges us to reach out with renewed conviction and
compassion to those with AIDS and their families and

Boland was working in Washington at the time and was
friends with Peterson.  When Peterson died, Hickey
sent Boland to the hospital to identify the body.

"We had his funeral in the cathedral, and the
archbishop talked about it," Boland recalled.  "You
talk about a teachable moment. First of all there was
a shock, but when that wore off, they said, `Gee, this
maybe is the model of how we should deal with people
in this situation.  Even a priest.' "

Peterson's openness and the church's acknowledgment
that he had AIDS have been the exception, not the
norm.  Though more than 12 years have passed, many
priests with AIDS continue to suffer in silence.

Missed opportunity?

The Rev.  Harry Morrison entered the seminary in 1969
after graduating from college.  Though older than many
fellow seminarians, he wasn't any wiser when it came
to sex.

Several years in the seminary didn't help.

"When young men go into seminary, they don't even know
what celibacy is," said Morrison, a California priest
who has AIDS.  "A lot of this technical language,
these Latin phrases, all you know is there's something
to be afraid of.  You don't even know exactly what it

Morrison said one phrase seminarians learned was
adverte oculos.

"That's an old, old, old admonition," he said.  "It
means turn away your eyes.  Eye contact is dangerous.
And that's all a seminary faculty member would have to
say.  They would walk past you and they would just
simply say, `Custody of the eyes."' Another warning
was about "particular friendships."

"That was the main issue," Morrison said.  "In a
seminary, you're not supposed to have particular
friendships, because they can lead to perdition."

Lack of education and inadequate preparation on sexual
issues continues to be a problem in the seminaries,
many priests and behavioral experts said.

"In my experience, the great majority of the priests
who take that vow are really not developed enough
psychosexually," said Isola, the New York therapist.

"During seminary, the questions about sex or
homosexuality or sexual feelings were usually dealt
with by the novicemaster or the head of training
saying, `If you say the Mass every day and say the
rosary every day, the rest of it will take care of
itself,' which for many of them just doesn't work."

Several priests, responding confidentially to The
Star's survey, offered similar comments.

"I don't think the real problem is HIV/AIDS but rather
the basic dishonesty of the church with regard to all
sexuality," wrote one gay priest.  "Priests and others
have to disguise and hide their sexuality in all sorts
of ways and of course this leads to unhealthy sexual

Some priests say the church was warned nearly 30 years
ago that such problems could develop but failed to
take steps to prevent them.

In 1967, the U.S.  Catholic bishops voted to conduct
an extensive study of the life and ministry of the
American priest.  The U.S. Catholic Conference
published the findings in a 1972 book called The
Catholic Priest in the United States: Psychological

Most significant among the findings was that a large
proportion of priests were psychologically
underdeveloped and had failed to achieve a healthy
sexual identity.

"For whatever reasons, these priests have not resolved
the problems which are ordinarily worked through
during the time of adolescence," the report said.
"Sexual feelings are a source of conflict and
difficulty and much energy goes into suppressing them
or the effort to distract themselves from them.

"Most report that their education about sexual
development was negative or non-existent; many report
no normal developmental social experience."

Gumbleton said the church missed an opportunity in the
'70s when the bishops received the report.

"They made it very clear that we had major problems
because of underdevelopment of two-thirds of the
priests of this country," he said.  "It brought out
the facts and would have been the basis for developing
programs within the seminary to help people to grow
into healthy adults with integrated sexuality.

"The report was given to the bishops, and they just
said `Thank you.'...It was a disaster.  That study was
one of the best things we ever did.  I was totally
frustrated at the time, and I still remain frustrated.
I've always thought that was a huge failure on the
part of the conference of bishops."

In 1983, the National Conference of Catholic Bishops'
Committee on Priestly Life and Ministry followed up
with a 59-page booklet called "Human Sexuality and the
Ordained Priesthood."

The booklet's purpose was to provide "a structured,
objective basis for priests and bishops to reflect
personally and talk about some important realities --
realities which otherwise might not get looked at or
dealt with helpfully."

Topics included celibacy, loneliness and
relationships.  Three pages dealt with homosexuality.

It was, said a priest responding to The Star's survey,
"one of the most neglected documents in recent years."


http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm  for footnotes etc.

        "Did you go yourself and examine this, or how
        do you know?"

                [Socrates 469 - 399 B.C.E.].

3."The history of the world is the history of
fanaticism. "

4."Every man prefers belief to the exercise of
judgment, says Seneca".

[Seneca the Younger 4 B.C.E.? - 65 C.E.].

5."the faithful gain prestige through managing to
believe even more ridiculous things than their rivals
succeed in believing. "

8. "Faith is that quality which enables us to believe
what we know to be untrue. " ["The Omnibus Boners"].

11. "It may be that in some cases the two great
impulses of reliance and defiance have become
assimilated. The ascetic ["believer"] who subjects
himself utterly to the will of his god may
simultaneously be seeking the power that derives from
his omnipotent ally. If the same belief or delusion
permits in this way the simultaneous resolution of
both impulses, then the force of both will be
combined. This may explain the tremendous strength of
religious conviction. The will to power and the will
to submission are perfectly combined in submission to
omnipotence. "

12. "This is the big one, my friends. This is where we
find out which is stronger--the intelligence you were
born with, or a lifetime of brainwashing. You can make
it. I did. "


[who happens to be JEWISH and a friend]

Another very deep, dark secret of the 20th Century, is
how some Chief Rabbis---certainly not all of
them---operated in countries around Nazi Germany. In
Poland, for example, these purported holymen were the
community bankers. The ordinary people not having
local banks available, such as in the U.S., they
entrusted them with their money and valuables. And
these Chief Rabbis, too often, told their people,
after the invasion by the Germans, after 1939, "Shush,
quiet, say nothing, get on the train. The Germans want
you to work on the farm".

The ordinary Jews were fed these fairy tales. The
trains took them to places like Auschwitz where many
perished, having been worked to death as slave
laborers for I.G. Farben and other Nazi indusry. Some
concentration camp survivors I have known in Chicago
have given me eyewitness accounts. They claim the
grandchildren of these Chief Rabbis are big dealers in
real estate and other businesses in the Chicago-area,
with the treasures stolen by their Chief Rabbi
grandfathers from fellow Jews, who naively believed
what they were told, and got on the train "for the

"You know who they are! Sue them! Expose them! The
hour is late. You are 80 years old. What are you
waiting for?" I have pleaded. My offer to volunteer my
expertise on legal research has so far not been
answered or accepted. In vain, I want this particular
Great Secret of the 20th Century to be a matter of
undisputed court record.


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