CAUS COMMENTARY
"Most folks would like to 'leave their mark' on the world; that is, to have
some lasting effect on mankind.  The important people have towns and freeways
named after them, and a generation later no one can remember why.  You are
forced in history class to learn the facts about the world's heroes that bear
little resemblance to their life.  The only 'mark' you will leave on the
world is to the extent to which you change the world's thinking.  You will
effect all of mankind throughout eternity to the degree you effectively
influence its thinking by what you believe, and therefore teach." --Your
Owner's Manual by Burt Hotchkiss

CAUS in COURT
During my twenty-five years as a criminal trial attorney in New York City,
the hardest part of any trial was the waiting for a verdict while the jury
was deliberating.  The wait was usually measured in hours, sometimes in
daysbut never in weeks.  Waiting for Judge McNamee's decision reminds me of
those days.  Hopefully, the days do not turn into weeks.

Judge McNamee has been presented, by the CAUS lawsuit, with an uncommon
opportunity.  Besides furthering the CAUS by allowing the continuation of the
lawsuit and the possibility of learning about our triangular aerial friends,
the Chief Judge of the U.S. District Court in Phoenix has the opportunity to
create new legal precedent.  A favorable decision for CAUS could also,
depending on its scope, affect future Freedom of Information Act litigation
by further defining the term "reasonable search" while redefining the "good
faith" that is presumptively given government affidavits in Motions for
Summary Judgment.

It's pretty mind blowing to envision "Citizens Against UFO Secrecy v.
Department of Defense" being cited by attorneys and judges in future FOIA
litigation on the issue of what is, or is not, a "reasonable search."
Usually, whenever a case is referred to in legal papers, the facts of the
case are also cited to make the legal point.  Thus, separate and aside from
the results of the CAUS lawsuit for information on the V-shaped UFOs, the
CAUS quest could be memorialized in legal jurisprudence for quite awhile.

CAUS, sensing a receptive ear, provided Judge McNamee with the opportunity to
set legal precedent without denying, at least for the present time, the
government's request for dismissal of the lawsuit. At the end of my arguments
in Court on the 7th, I suggested to the Judge that CAUS be allowed to assist
the DoD in finding its own documents.  I further suggested that this can be
accomplished by postponing his decision on the government's Motion for 90
days and during that time allowing CAUS limited discovery. Limited discovery
would allow CAUS to subpoena and depose under oath, DoD personnel involved in
the search as well as those officials expected to have knowledge of the
triangular craft.  Of CAUS, if at the end of 90 days, I were no closer to
locating the information within the DoD, the case would be dismissed. At the
time of my request, I noticed the Judge taking notes and hopefully, I was
able to convince him that this alternative was a practical solution to an
actual controversy.

The Judge could also deny CAUS limited discovery but grant my request to see
the
e-mails that were sent to each of the 200 employees of DARPA as well as the
responses that allegedly indicated that no responsive records were found.  Or
he could direct the DoD to provide CAUS with the specifics of its search of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Defense Space & Operations Division. Or he
could grant a combination of the above or something not even considered in
this commentary.

And then again, Judge McNamee could grant the government's request and
dismiss the lawsuit stating that even though CAUS did raise serious concerns
about the Department of Defense's search, those concerns did not reach the
level necessary to defeat the Motion for Summary Judgment.  Somehow I do not
believe the good Judge will allow this opportunity to slip away. The CAUS
case cries out for new law or at least a new interpretation of old law. At a
MUFON meeting last evening, a court stenographer who at one time was assigned
to Judge McNamee's courtroom, told me that the Judge is anything but a
"rubber stamp" for government action and, in fact, takes a cynical view of
some of its pronouncements.

Even if the Judge dismisses the lawsuit, the media attention as well as the
overwhelming support, has taken CAUS to a new level of acknowledgement and
accomplishment while furthering its principles and objectives of using the
legal system to learn the truth about our interaction with another
intelligence.

And if Judge McNamee decides in favor of CAUS, well then just use your
imaginationbecause you can be assured that I will be using mine!  No matter
the outcome it has been a very enjoyable and successful journey.  Hopefully
the best is yet to come.

Peter A. Gersten
Director








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CAUS COMMENTARY
"Most folks would like to 'leave their mark' on the world; that is, to have 
some lasting effect on mankind.  The important people have towns and freeways 
named after them, and a generation later no one can remember why.  You are 
forced in history class to learn the facts about the world's heroes that bear 
little resemblance to their life.  The only 'mark' you will leave on the 
world is to the extent to which you change the world's thinking.  You will 
effect all of mankind throughout eternity to the degree you effectively 
influence its thinking by what you believe, and therefore teach." --Your 
Owner's Manual by Burt Hotchkiss

CAUS in COURT
During my twenty-five years as a criminal trial attorney in New York City, 
the hardest part of any trial was the waiting for a verdict while the jury 
was deliberating.  The wait was usually measured in hours, sometimes in 
days…but never in weeks.  Waiting for Judge McNamee's decision reminds me of 
those days.  Hopefully, the days do not turn into weeks.

Judge McNamee has been presented, by the CAUS lawsuit, with an uncommon 
opportunity.  Besides furthering the CAUS by allowing the continuation of the 
lawsuit and the possibility of learning about our triangular aerial friends, 
the Chief Judge of the U.S. District Court in Phoenix has the opportunity to 
create new legal precedent.  A favorable decision for CAUS could also, 
depending on its scope, affect future Freedom of Information Act litigation 
by further defining the term "reasonable search" while redefining the "good 
faith" that is presumptively given government affidavits in Motions for 
Summary Judgment. 

It's pretty mind blowing to envision "Citizens Against UFO Secrecy v. 
Department of Defense" being cited by attorneys and judges in future FOIA 
litigation on the issue of what is, or is not, a "reasonable search." 
Usually, whenever a case is referred to in legal papers, the facts of the 
case are also cited to make the legal point.  Thus, separate and aside from 
the results of the CAUS lawsuit for information on the V-shaped UFOs, the 
CAUS quest could be memorialized in legal jurisprudence for quite awhile.

CAUS, sensing a receptive ear, provided Judge McNamee with the opportunity to 
set legal precedent without denying, at least for the present time, the 
government's request for dismissal of the lawsuit. At the end of my arguments 
in Court on the 7th, I suggested to the Judge that CAUS be allowed to assist 
the DoD in finding its own documents.  I further suggested that this can be 
accomplished by postponing his decision on the government's Motion for 90 
days and during that time allowing CAUS limited discovery. Limited discovery 
would allow CAUS to subpoena and depose under oath, DoD personnel involved in 
the search as well as those officials expected to have knowledge of the 
triangular craft.  Of CAUS, if at the end of 90 days, I were no closer to 
locating the information within the DoD, the case would be dismissed. At the 
time of my request, I noticed the Judge taking notes and hopefully, I was 
able to convince him that this alternative was a practical solution to an 
actual controversy.

The Judge could also deny CAUS limited discovery but grant my request to see 
the 
e-mails that were sent to each of the 200 employees of DARPA as well as the 
responses that allegedly indicated that no responsive records were found.  Or 
he could direct the DoD to provide CAUS with the specifics of its search of 
the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Defense Space & Operations Division. Or he 
could grant a combination of the above or something not even considered in 
this commentary.

And then again, Judge McNamee could grant the government's request and 
dismiss the lawsuit stating that even though CAUS did raise serious concerns 
about the Department of Defense's search, those concerns did not reach the 
level necessary to defeat the Motion for Summary Judgment.  Somehow I do not 
believe the good Judge will allow this opportunity to slip away. The CAUS 
case cries out for new law or at least a new interpretation of old law. At a 
MUFON meeting last evening, a court stenographer who at one time was assigned 
to Judge McNamee's courtroom, told me that the Judge is anything but a 
"rubber stamp" for government action and, in fact, takes a cynical view of 
some of its pronouncements.

Even if the Judge dismisses the lawsuit, the media attention as well as the 
overwhelming support, has taken CAUS to a new level of acknowledgement and 
accomplishment while furthering its principles and objectives of using the 
legal system to learn the truth about our interaction with another 
intelligence.

And if Judge McNamee decides in favor of CAUS, well then just use your 
imagination…because you can be assured that I will be using mine!  No matter 
the outcome it has been a very enjoyable and successful journey.  Hopefully 
the best is yet to come.  

Peter A. Gersten
Director





 


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