-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> </A> -Cui Bono?- .............................................................. >From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Weldon Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Toledo Gun Confiscation & Call Congress Prevent Registration Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:49 PM Toledo Gun Confiscation & Call Congress Prevent Registration By Neal Knox -- Senate Judiciary Chairman Orrin Hatch held quiet discussions last week with House Judiciary Chairman Henry Hyde about moving a Senate Juvenile Justice bill stripped of its controversial gun provisions. Speaker Dennis Hastert is opposed to removing the gun provisions, according to Roll Call, the Capitol Hill newspaper. Majority Leader Dick Armey and Whip Tom Delay don't think it's a good idea to kick a presently sleeping dog. But all parties agree that "guns" will be an issue during the year, if not throughout the year, particularly as amendments to the 13 appropriations bills. Never mind the rules against legislating on appropriations bills, that's the way most new gun laws have been passed in recent years. Speaker of the US House of Representatives Rep. J. Dennis Hastert (R-IL-14th) Washington DC Address 2263 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2976 Fax: 202-225-0694 District Address – Batavia 27 N. River St. Batavia, IL 60510 Phone: 630-879-1114 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confiscation in Toledo Below lines ***************************************** The Juvenile Justice Bill (Senate Bill S254) contains provisions to follow private sales at gun shown. This produces record that can be used against you in the future. It is a registration of sale of a firearm. Registration is the one thing that makes confiscation possible. The only reason the anti gun politicians can steal the guns is that they have a record of firearms ownership. GET BETWEEN THESE RECORDS AND YOUR GOVERNMENTS ANY WAY YOU CAN. Write the SPEAKER OF THE US HOUSE & your CONGRESSMAN OR STATE LEGISLATORS now. This can be accomplished at the speed of light, thanks to WorldNetDaily's new Legislative Action Center. http://congress.nw.dc.us/wnd/ You can call your two Senators at (202) 224-3121 and your Representative at (202) 225-3121 at the Capitol Switchboard. Here is the URL for Congressional Telephone Directory: http://clerkweb.house.gov/106/mbrcmtee/members/teledir/me mbers/cdframe.htm Here's an e-mail link to Congress. http://in-search-of.org/ http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ http://www.gunowners.org/mailerx.html What To Do If The Police Come To Confiscate Your Militia Weapons see www.2ndamendment.net For legislative updates contact www.nealknox.com and go to "Scripts from the Firearms Coalition Legislative Update Line" To spread the word call Rush Limbaugh at 800-282-2882 and callers may call in from 12 noon to 3PM EST, M-F ***************************** The Toledo Blade Handgun owners confused by law February 7, 2000 BY VANESSA GEZARI BLADE STAFF WRITER The lists of outlawed handguns were introduced last month. Then the calls started coming in. Is my gun legal? How do I prove I've owned my weapon for years? The Toledo police department has received hundreds of phone calls from the city's registered gun owners who have been trying to figure out whether their weapons are illegal under a handgun ban that took effect last week - and what to do if they are. "It's very difficult for them to decipher what's what from the ordinance," said Officer Roger White, the Toledo police weapon expert who helped members of Mayor Carty Finkbeiner's administration draft the law. "It's very confusing. What can I tell you? I don't think [the law] was very well-made." The law, which bans the possession and sale of some small, easily concealed handguns, met with similar criticism when city council considered it in the fall. It was introduced by Mr. Finkbeiner, an ardent gun-control advocate, and provoked extensive lobbying from pro- and anti-gun camps. Council approved it by a narrow margin. About Jan. 10, the police department mailed copies of the law and lists of legal and illegal guns to more than 6,000 registered handgun owners. Included in the mailings were blank documents known as handgun acknowledgement forms - and those forms have been a source of confusion, Officer White said. The law contains a grandfather clause that protects people who owned their guns before the ban took effect. To prove prior ownership, residents had to list their guns on a handgun acknowledgement form - before Feb. 1. Then they had to get the form notarized. Gun owners are supposed to keep the forms in case they are charged with owning a banned gun. They could then use the documents to defend themselves in court. "The biggest question they have is, 'What do we do with these forms?' " Officer White said. He said many gun owners thought they were supposed to mail their forms to the city. "For something that took so long to hash out, it's been handled poorly," said Councilman Rob Ludeman, a Republican who voted against the law. "I'm concerned that there are a lot of inadequacies, both with the law and the way this [notification] happened." Mr. Ludeman last week asked the Finkbeiner administration whether it would consider extending the effective date of the law to give gun owners more time to make a record of their weapons. John Madigan, the city's general counsel, said he cannot change the effective date. But he said council could do so. "We gave people four months before the law went into effect," Mr. Madigan said. "We don't send out notices on many, many laws that get changed. People are responsible for knowing the law, whether or not they receive a personal copy of it." Officer White said the gun owners who are calling the city are law-abiding citizens - and they are trying to stay that way. "It is the kind of situation that can put what is your good citizen, who had a firearm around the house for 40 years for protection, in violation of the law," he said. "The worst-case scenario is that they get so scared, they throw it in the creek and someone finds it, [or] they throw it in the garbage." Toledo police have proposed a $50,000 handgun buyback program that would allow gun owners to sell their weapons to the city for $50, with a limit of two handguns per person. Council last week referred the measure to its public safety committee. ************************************************************* >From The 2ndAmendmentNews Team If you received this as a forward and wish to join please send: E-MAil to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the message body: SUBSCRIBE 2nd-Amendment-News We have had a computer error. 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