From: "Catherine Austin Fitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whoever is financing the Chinese and Russians in ways that lead to war are also financing the application of Promis into all the financial services....this is one swarm...albeit lots of factions at the SVP and Vice President levels in the swarm..... One of most rational moves for the types pushing for one world government is to have the Chinese go aggressive...in Sudan...in Tibet...and eventually with the US. The Chinese currently have a much higher learning speed as a culture than we do. That is why the big bets with our pension fund money in Asia and China. That is why Carlyle is buying at 10-50 cents on the dollar as we speak. Remember, locking the world into fossil fuels in the sixtes, locked China into a horrible prison. It has ruined a lot of environment, but we at least stayed warm while we stole and borrowed to pay for the oil. China was the first to finance a serious cold fushion application that I know of....so imagine what the boys who killed Kennedy did to them....forty years of shivering is serious. The trading routes behind the cocaine and opium trades define the organization and networks that they deal through. If we can understand the drug trade from the China Opium trade through today, we will be able to see the patterns and this will ultimately lead to a mapping of who are the drivers and what there intention is...but we have to look at the drug business as simply the spice that fuels the death star....and we need to use that knowledge to map out its machinery and its navigational systems and its plans... And where the flaw on the death star is...... We can't afford to wait until we can document for 60 minutes 'cause we and our families may be dead. Which is why we are going to find out what Hillary and little Andy are up to over at HUD and in the mortgage banking market with Altel and money laundering.....and how the money flows from Mena and mixes with the money flowing from HUD...like blood through a body. Cut off the death star's money, and Midianite warfare will break out on its bridge.... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s Subj: [our-constitution] Re: Documented: China Plans Nuclear War on U.S. Date: 3/6/00 7:19:51 AM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cliff Hume) Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">our-constitution@egr oups.com</A> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the strategy laid out for all to see and to read, the people who would "rather be Red than dead", will now, as Henry Kissinger - CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg - suggested so many years ago, "surrender and take the best deal possible under the circumstance." Henry has been working for a communist style world government under the Non Governmental Organization known as the United Nations, ever since Carnegie and Rockefeller founded and funded that organization in 1945. To paraphrase that famous Chinese War Lord, Sun Tzu; "Supreme excellence in warfare is to convince your enemy that the war is over before it even begins." With what is happening right now, it should not be very difficult, for those who have already partially awakened, to understand why Bill Clinton, CFR, Skull & Bones, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, et al, passed over the atomic secrets and the computer technology to his communist friends in China. Nor should it be difficult to understand why the State Department(mostly CFR) and the almost three hundred world-government, subversives in the present administration have been financing and supporting their communist agents in the Soviet Union since about 1914. In the publication, Soviet Land, (C) Novosti Press Agency Publishing House, 1977, we can learn of many interesting things that are happening in the name of SOCIALISM, since the most wealthy US Bankers, and their cohorts in Germany, each sent twenty million dollars in gold, with Trotsky from New York and Lenin from Germany, to overthrow the christian tzar. One other thing that may be of interest to the common folk from this socialist publication is that General Electric, Occidental Petroleum, and as it says on page 32: "And scores of US firms have set up offices in Moscow. The US-USSR Trade and Economic Council has been organized with participation of over 300 US and Soviet firms and trade organizations." For more on the treason that has been taking place all of these years, a helpful study has been done by Professor Charles Levinson in his 328 page book, Vodka Cola. Not only has the controlled media done quite a number on the hundreds of books which would have been readily available in a free society, they have also done a number on the minds of the citizens in their controlled government schools and their cartel ized media. If the Red Chinese are serious about going to war, a citizens arrest should be set into motion which would ensure that all of the CFR traitors who are in charge of the forces and other key positions - should be jailed with all of the judges. Yours very truly, Cliff Hume. At 03:39 PM 3/5/00 EST, you wrote: By Charles Smith � 2000 WorldNetDaily.com A recently-declassified Chinese military document states communist China will first conduct a "Vietnam"-like conventional war against American forces, and then eventually fight a nuclear war against the U.S. homeland. The document, recently translated by an American intelligence agency, was sent by the Chinese army central command to all the regional garrisons and army corps headquarters in China. A copy was obtained by WorldNetDaily for this exclusive report. According to the August 1999 policy document published by the People's Liberation Army Office of the Central Military Command, China is "willing to sustain major losses of our armed forces" in exchange for large losses of >U.S. military personnel. The Central Military Command is the party command structure of the People's Liberation Army -- that is, the people who make policy for the Chinese military. "If the U.S. forces lose thousands or hundreds of men under our powerful strikes, the anti-war sentiment within their country will force the U.S. >government to take the same path as they did in Viet Nam," states the Chinese army document. Titled "Watching Closely for Changes in Relationships with Taiwan and >Enhancing Awareness of Military Leadership of Current Situation," the Chinese army strategy document also describes a chilling scenario of nuclear war with America. "In comparison with the U.S. nuclear arsenal, our disadvantage is mainly numeric, which in real wars the qualitative gap will be reflected only as different requirement of strategic theory. In terms of deterrence, there is not any difference in practical value. So far we have built up the capability for the second and third nuclear strikes and are fairly confident in fighting a nuclear war. The PCC (Communist Party Central Committee) has decided to pass through formal channels this message to the top leaders in the U.S." The Chinese army command document also noted that recent U.S. combat experience cannot be compared to a future war with the massive People's Liberation Army. China is capable of massing millions of troops, and has over 5,000 aircraft that can be thrown into a battle over Taiwan. In addition, the Chinese military noted it had a clear edge in fighting a tactical nuclear war with American forces in the Pacific region. "In terms of air defense," noted the Chinese army document, "it is impossible for the U.S. Air Force to enjoy the kind of dominance which they maintained in Iraq or Yugoslavia." "It can be safely expected that once the U.S. launches an attack, the front line of U.S. forces and their supporting bases will be exposed within the range of our effective strikes. After the first strategic strike, the U.S. forces will be faced with weaponry and logistic problems, providing us with opportunities for major offensives and win large battles." According to the Chinese military, "Unlike Iraq and Yugoslavia, China is not only a big country, but also possesses a nuclear arsenal that has long since been incorporated into state warfare system and play a real role in our national defense." "During the last crisis across the Taiwan Straits, the U.S. tried to blackmail us with their aircraft carrier(s), but when their spy satellites confirmed that our four nuclear submarines which used to be stationed at Lushun Harbor had disappeared, those politicians addicted to the Taiwan card could not imagine how worried their military commander were." The Chinese military command also outlined its plan for a quick victory by using overwhelming numbers in a massive assault against Taiwan. "Taiwan occupies only a small area. Although the quality of its equipment is not too bad, its quantity is limited. It is obvious that after the first fatal strike, the Taiwan forces have no way to organize effective resistance. Under such circumstances, we will be able to control Taiwan before the U.S. intervention and then concentrate our forces to fight the U.S. Based on this scenario, it is impossible for the U.S. to force us to fight on two fronts when it tries to protect Taiwan." The Chinese army document also noted that the Chinese diplomatic attack has started in the "war" with America. According to the military, recent Chinese diplomatic efforts successfully lined up a solid wall of support from the other Asian powers, allowing the Chinese army to move forces south in preparation for an invasion of Taiwan. "Internationally, President Jiang Zemin will go to Biskek in late September to attend the five-country meeting, including China, Russia, Kyrgzstan, Kazakstan and Tajikstan. The meeting will sum up and expand cooperations in the field of security and reach agreements on reduction of armed forces stationed along the borders and establishment of military trust." "The above efforts will not only eliminate security concerns along our rear by reducing the traditional pressure along our northeast and northwest border, and increase the proportion of forces which can be moved to the southeast coastal regions, but also serve to ensure our exchanges with the outside world by land routes during the war." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- Charles Smith is a national security and defense reporter for WorldNetDaily. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- A HREF="http://www.insightmag.com/cgi-bin/ViewNews.cfm?Item=36">http://www.in sightmag.com/cgi-bin/ViewNews.cfm?Item=36 CHINA WAR PLAN AGAINST TAIWAN AND U.S. 3/3/00 - By J. Michael Waller The People�s Republic of China is actively planning a military invasion of Taiwan and is preparing to wage war against the United States � including firing its small arsenal of strategic nuclear missiles on the territory of the United States � if Washington attempts to defend the island. In an internal document from the Chinese Communist Party�s Central Military Commission to all its regional commanders, Beijing says it hopes to absorb Taiwan through nonviolent means but warns of an �increased possibility for a military solution,� arguing: �It is better to fight now than [in the] future the earlier, the better.� In the document, (see <A HREF="http://www.insightmag.com/cgi-bin/View News.cfm?Item=36/archive/200003057.shtml">"China Prepares for War"</A>) Beijin g envisions a blitzkrieg-like attack on Taiwan, launching a �first fatal strike� so that �the Taiwan forces have no way to organize effective resistance.� Under this plan, �we will be able to control Taiwan before the U.S. intervention and then concentrateour forces to fight the U.S.� The paper, distributed to commanders in August 1999, urges military leaders to �be well prepared for war� with Taiwan and, if necessary, the United States, following Taiwan President Lee Teng-hui�s �two-country theory,� in which the Republic of China on Taiwan would seek independent statehood. The Communist Chinese leadership views Lee�s position as a threat to the territorial integrity of the People�s Republic and argues that if allowed to stand would promote mainland China�s disintegration by encouraging independence for Tibet and other occupied areas. The paper says that large-scale coastal and inland military exercises planned for September 1999 were intended not only to intimidate Taiwan but �to adapt our armed forces to cross-the-Straits operations.� Beijing anticipates the passive support of Russia in a Taiwan invasion. A summit between Chinese President Jiang Zemin, Russian President Boris Yeltsin and others in Kazakhstan that same month was intended on Beijing�s part to help reduce �the traditional pressure along our northeast and northwest borders, and increase the proportion of forces which can be moved to the southeast coastal regions,� as well as to keep open �land routes during the war � in case we are forced to fight afull-scale war against the U.S.� Insight has obtained a copy of this startling document, which has been translated into English. A HREF="http://www.insightmag.com/cgi-bin/View News.cfm?Item=36/archive/200003057.shtml">(Click here to read the full document.) The purpose of the document is to make �high-ranking commanders in non-combat as well as combat positions � well aware of the following issues so as to better understand the strategic decisions made by the Party�s Central Committee and be well-prepared for the war in their units based on the rapidly-changing relationships with Taiwan.� The document tells commanders to understand the party�s thinking behind its preparations and �a wave of politically-oriented military exercises� intended �to raise the political consciousness of all commanders and soldiers up to a level required by war.� Peaceful reunification with Taiwan, according to the Central Military Commission paper, �is still the best option� for Beijing�s long-term interests, as military options would be disruptive of the Party�s economic development goals. The document says it is very unlikely that European countries would aid in Taiwan�s defense, but anticipates that the U.S. would attempt to defend against an attack. Therefore, prior to an invasion of Taiwan, �we must take into account the above [diplomatic] factors and use diplomatic leverage to minimize internationalresistance.� Beijing�s crackdown on the Falun Gong spiritual group, the document says, was aimed at crushing separatist sentiment. �To outlaw �Falun Gong� was a preemptive measure aimed at the ultimate resolution of [the] Taiwan issue,� according to the document, �not only eliminating domestic trouble, but paving the way for reunification as well.� The Party leaders seem pleased with the weakness of international protests: �Negative international reaction has proven to be limited, and the protest from the U.S. was particularly pale and powerless, fully demonstrating that our Party has the ability and courage to gain advantage in complicated domestic and international struggles.� Senior Chinese military officials, the document says, disclosed �some information on strategic weaponry so that the U.S. will exercise some caution in decision-making and be aware that it would have to pay a price if it decided to intervene in a military conflict. The purpose is to prevent the U.S. from being deeply involved even if a war becomes unavoidable so that the losses on both sides of the Taiwan straits will be minimized throughout the war. The main point is deterrence, which is the test for a peaceful solution. The test is within the strategic scope of taking initiative and promoting good timing.� Beijing is convinced that, even in its much weaker military state, it can prevail in a war against the United States. �Taking into account of possible intervention by the U.S. and based on the development strategy of our country, it is better to fight now than [in the] future � the earlier, the better,� the military document says. �The reason being that, if worst comes to worst, we will gain control of Taiwan before full deployment of U.S. troops. In this case, the only thing the U.S. can do is fighting a war with the purpose of retaliation, which will be similar to the Gulf War against Iraq or the recent bombing of Yugoslavia as far as its operational objective is considered.� If the above scenario cannot be avoided, an early war will delay the success of our reform whereas a later war will jeopardize the full achievement of the reform.� The document says China has experience in �fighting the U.S. forces under modern warfare conditions. In that war, the Chinese forces were mainly responsible for air defense [of North Vietnam] and accumulated a whole set of experience in this regard.� Beijing anticipates that the United States will not be able to maintain its forces in combat against China for an extended period. The document reasons that the conflict will not escalate into a nuclear missile exchange, because the U.S. will lose its will to fight and withdraw after suffering serious casualties, while the Chinese side will be able to absorb heavy casualties and prevail. �Our principle is �willing to sustain major losses of our armed forces to defend even just one square inch of land,�� the document says. �If the U.S. forces lose thousands or hundreds of men under our powerful strikes, the anti-war sentiment within their country will force the U.S.government to take the same path as they did in Vietnam.� Even so, Beijing is prepared to use its small strategic nuclear force against the overwhelmingly superior United States: �In terms of deterrence, there is not any difference in practical value. So far we have built up the capability for the second and the third nuclear strikes and are fairly confident in fighting a nuclear war. The PCC has decided to pass through formal channels this message to the top leaders of the U.S. This is one of the concrete measures that we will take to prevent the escalation of war in the spirit of being responsible. �However, conceptually we are fully prepared for a prolonged warfare.� Prolonged warfare will work to our advantage and enable us to defeat the enemy, which will be one of our strategic options to win the war under extreme circumstances.� <A HREF="http://www.insightmag.com/cgi-bin/View News.cfm?Item=36/archive/200003057.shtml">(To read the full confidential Chinese document, click here.)</A> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Post a message, send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Post a message, send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Luck o' the Irish! 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