-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> </A> -Cui Bono?- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:03:47 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Robot-for-President] Grand Planetary Alignment From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We have another request, another topic for your second workshop titled: > "DESIGNING THE STAR PORTS USING ROBOTICS AND OTHER ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY > THE EARTH NOW HAS." THE PURPOSE OF THIS WORKSHOP IS to Gauge the level > of scientific development the Earth has reached on this level - YOU, > dear Franklin have been selected as the representative from your sector > of science to answer these questions! Is there anyone else in this > field we may need to invite, or do you feel comfortable being the sole > representative from your sector? Dear CBC: Further to the Wendy Mesley interview with Bill Joy and the subsequent Fifth Estate magazine on the Burzynski Cancer Clinic, let me suggest that we need to use that GNR (Genetic/Nanotechnology/Robotics) technology if we are to find cures for cancer, become advanced space travellers and so on. You may be interested in covering the Aquarian Perspectives Conference below, set for the first week in May. My other lecture topic for this conference is "The Future of Evolving Robots". During the first week of August I will lead a workshop at Alife-7 in Oregon titled "How To Make Xavier More Lively, Learned and Lucid Than Any Professor At CMU". Xavier is the robot which roams the halls of CMU and can be given commands by anyone in the world using internet. CMU is said by some to be the world's leading robotics centre. Now, if you at CBC can just get me to Humanoids 2000 for the first week in September, I will be happy to tell you all about "Xaviera", the humanoid robot and just what "she" could do now as a home and office mechanical servant. The focus here would be on "consumer robotics". I am pleased that Joe Engelberger has replied to my email to say he is going ahead with plans to develop the "HomeMate" robot as well as the "HelpMate" robot which he now has on the market. The contrast between the May conference and the August conference has to do with "psychoepistemology", ie "how we know what we know". My doctoral advisor JR Royce wrote a popular book on that topic in the 60's titled "The Encapsulated Man". It isn't that the rationalists in Oregon will know more than the metaphorists in New Mexico. It is a matter of knowing in a different way. If you visit <http://www.stardoves.com> you will find a web site rich in symbolism and imagery. And I arrive at similar conclusions about events of the near future using mostly "empiricism" which is my forte rather than rationalism or empiricism. You might even say that the "Grand Planetary Alignment" which the Doves give as the title for their conference is an alignment of minds as much as planets as physical entities. Refer to the opening image at the Stardoves web site of the Gatekeeper and the gates. Today we hear a lot of stargate or stargate-like theories including worm holes, teleportation, warping time and space, and black holes. The theoreticians put these out as rationalist theories. But they see arriving at an empirical solution as very distant. If, however, we use "evolving robots", we could be pleasantly surprised by how fast we get there. I am not denying that there are risks to using evolving robots to solve the problems of cancer, space travel, or world poverty. By analogy it is like deciding to cross the New Mexico Desert by hitching your wagon to a half dozen powerful horses instead of walking. The horses are fast but a mistake at that speed could be disastrous. And Bill Joy is correct that GNR technologies could well be weapons of mass destruction for this century and that they are much more powerful than the ABC weapons (atomic, biological, chemical) of the last. But space colonization itself presents the same risk. A Mars Colony could easily propel asteroids from the Asteroid Belt at Earth with far more power than all the atomic arsenals of Earth. The asteroids would then destroy Earth totally. But a colony on Mars could also send those asteroids into Moon orbit for mining on the Moon which would make every man, woman and child on Earth a multi-billionaire. Now if Bill Joy were to attend the New Mexico Conference he might have his Y2K nightmare turned into a much happier dream. I would say that an International Space Station-scaled megaproject would give us humanoids in 10 years which can do everything humans can do now in the way of work and more. That includes scientific work on cancer, space colonization etc. That time table coincides with the year 2012 given at the Doves web site which is the "end of the world" by Mayan Calendar reckoning. But each end is a new beginning. So the question has to do with what people want that new beginning to be. 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