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(notice the correct "mailing address") ----- Original Message ----- > > Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:44:50 -0600 > From: schuetzen - RKBA! > Subject: [patriot] (fwd) [SSN not Required] FW: Tulis pursues no-SSN litigation > On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:08:55 -0800, "Ray Iddings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Thought I would forward this status report along to everybody ... please > respond directly to David. > > ++++++++++++++++++++++ > > -----Original Message----- > From: David and Jeannette Tulis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 08:42 PM > To: ... > Subject: Tulis pursues no-SSN litigation > > David Jonathan Tulis > c/o 10520 Brickhill Lane > Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee 37379 > Tel/fax (423) 332-6459 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > March 22, 2000 > > Dear Friend, > > On March 13, the last day available to sue for judicial review, I filed a > petition in chancery court in Davidson County (Nashville) asking that an > adverse ruling in a kangaroo court, better known as a judicial hearing, he > overturned and that Tennnessee Department of Safety Commissioner Mike > Greene be ordered to renew my driver's license, absent a social security > number on my renewal slip. > > A compromise proposal sent a week before had gone unanswered. I believe > that an end to this conflict will emerge from the concepts outlined there. > > I am a religious objector to social security, a Christian who separated > myself from social security by a lawful action in recission, and refuse to > enter into social security so that driver license officials can have a > number on the license renewal blank. My license is said to have "expired" > in the course of my legal proceedings against the commissioner over this > issue. A petition for writ of mandamus in the matter was recently dismissed. > > Let me briefly describe the nature of this settlement offer, as it may shed > light on how one who has rescinded from social security might view the use > by civil authority of his revoked number. > > U.S. appellate decisions in Bowen v. Roy, 476 U.S. 693 (1986) and Leahy v. > District of Columbia, 833 F.2d 1046 (D.C. Cir. 1987), make clear that one > cannot have a religious objection to an internal operation of government, > such as the color of its filing cabinets or the use or content of its > internal records. > > Tennessee civil authorities my former social security number on file. I may > have given an SSN in the late '80s to the Department of Safety. In past > years I filed tax returns with the Department of Revenue containing the > number. > > I cannot, under these controlling rulings, have any religious objection to > the use of this former number. Such a number is a matter of government > record; it is not my property and I have no interest in it. And, in fact, I > do not have any religious objection to its use. > > My constitutionally protected religious objection throughout this conflict > has remained consistent. I object to the commissioner's demand that I go > out and enter a contractually binding application with social security. > Neither can I, under penalty of perjury, present my rescinded social > security number, which I stopped using since my December 1996 recission and > revocation filing. > > My proposal was as follows: that the commissioner attach to my renewal form > a number of his choosing to make my application for driver's license > renewal acceptable to him. He would accept my truthful, good-faith answer > to the renewal form's "SSN" question, that answer being "religious > objector." By this means the commissioner could be satisfied that he has > accomplished his duty in recording a suitable number for the licensee. > > I am confident of obtaining relief at some point, almost certainly under > the Leahy doctrine, which came into play in a similar case in the early > 1990s. > > For all the words I am offering here about the merits of my claim, what > matters most is not their efficacy or verity, but the mercy of God on His > people. > > I am throwing myself upon God's providence, knowing that He is my advocate, > and that there is no stronghold that He is unable to tear down if He > chooses, so that all Israel will roar, as they did when Elijah confronted > Ahab on Mount Carmel, "The LORD, He is God! The LORD, He is God!" > > I am not presuming on the Lord to give me victory. He may consign me to > defeat at the hands of infidels and liars. What matters, though, for > Christians in such a position as mine, is that we seek God's face with > hearts full of love, fear and tenderness, counting our trials as no great > matter, and resting in His sweetness and mercy. All Christians who face a > trial or tribulation have received His unmerited blessing. > > Please pray for me in this matter, if you can think to. > > David Jonathan Tulis > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Group Manager: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or go to the > e-group's home page at http://www.egroups.com/list/no_ssn > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
