From: Brian Downing Quig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You are right.  Thanks.  Three months after Ollie eliminated Seal these five
SOUTHERN AIR TRANSPORT pilots died within hours.

Brian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Brian:
>
> Seal was gunned down in February, not 3 months before this crash listed
> below...
>
>  Am I missing something, or did you just make a typo on the date - meaning to
> type 8 months rather than 3 months before?
>
> - Tanina
>
> FROM: http://www.dcia.com/ntsb2.html
> Seal was gunned down gangland style 3 months before when the witness
> protection program set up by none other than George Bush himself
> conspicuously failed to provide protection.
> Accident occurred OCT-04-86 at KELLY AFB, TX
> Aircraft: LOCKHEED 382G, registration: N15ST
>
>  Subj:   [CIA-DRUGS] DID THOSE WHO DIED IN TEXAS KNOW TOO MUCH?
>  Date:  03/24/2000 3:30:45 PM Eastern Standard Time
>  From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Downing Quig)
>  Reply-to:  <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
>  To:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>   --------------------
>  DID THOSE WHO DIED IN TEXAS KNOW TOO MUCH?
>
>  This C-123 of Seal's was an unusually large plan like the C-130.
>
>  There is some reason to believe that these two SOUTHERN AIR planes intended
> to rendezvous somewhere on the way to Nicaragua so that they would cast only
> one shadow on known radar.  Seal and other air traffickers used this maneuver
> often.
>
>  So we are left with this rather convenient elimination of Seal's number two
> and three men and the question of the dead pilots in Texas.  Who were they
> and why did they die?
>
>  Fatal plane crashes are rare.  Very rare.  Any air company that had two
> fatal crashes within hours would arouse great media response --- except if it
> is a CIA air cargo company hauling drugs.   That is the Great Catch 22.  If
> it involves the CIA we are expected to be polite and not notice it.
>
>  What is your call on this Hoppsicker.  Were these men tied in to Seal?
>
>  Brian Quig
>  http://www.dcia.com/ntsb2.html
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> FROM: http://www.dcia.com/ntsb2.html
> Here is a plane crash very similar in many respects to the Gander,
> Newfoundland ARROW AIR crash.  This took place 11 months after Gander.
> Within hours of this crash SOUTHERN AIR TRANSPORT had a second fatal air
> crash in Nicaragua where Eugene Hausenfus survived but Barry Seal's two top
> men die.  Did the three who died in Texas also know too much about the Mena,
> Arkansas drug operation?  Seal was gunned down gangland style 3 months before
> when the witness protection program set up by none other than George Bush
> himself conspicuously failed to provide protection.
>
> NTSB Identification: DCA87AA002 For details, refer to NTSB microfiche number
> 31513A
> Nonscheduled 14 CFR 121 operation of SOUTHERN AIR TRANSPORT
> Accident occurred OCT-04-86 at KELLY AFB, TX
> Aircraft: LOCKHEED 382G, registration: N15ST
> Injuries: 3 Fatal.
> AFTER THE ACFT LANDED AT KELLY AFB, TX, ON 10/2/86, THERE WAS A CREW CHG BFR
> IT DEPD ON THE NEXT FLT. DRG THE NEXT TAKE- OFF, THE ACFT LIFTED OFF NEAR THE
> MIDPOINT OF RWY 15 (APRX 5775' FM THE APCH END). WHEN IT WAS AT APRX 100' TO
> 200' AGL, WITNESSES SAW IT GO INTO AN EXTREMELY NOSE HI ATTITUDE & CLIMB
> ABOUT ANOTHER 500'. ALSO, THE ACFT ROLLED TO THE LEFT & CONTD ROLLING &
> TURNING LEFT UNTIL IT CRASHED ON THE RAMP IN A NEAR INVERTED ATTITUDE ON A
> HDG OF ABOUT 070 DEG. THERE WAS EVIDENCE THAT AN ELEVATOR CONTROL (CTL) BLOCK
> HAD JAMMED THE 1ST OFFICER'S (FO'S) CTL COLUMN WHEN THE ACFT TOOK OFF. THE FO
> OF THE PREVIOUS FLT HAD INSTALLED IT ON THE CTL COLUMN AFTER THAT FLT. THE FO
> OF THE ACDNT FLT HAD BEEN HIRED 6 DAYS EARLIER & MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FAMILIAR
> WITH THE DEVICE. THE BLOCK WAS DESIGNED TO KEEP THE ELEVATOR IN A FAIRED OR
> SLIGHTLY RAISED (TRAILING EDGE UP) POSITION FOR LOADING OPNS, BUT IT WAS NOT
> AN APPROVED DEVICE. THERE WAS AN UNWRITTEN PRACTICE FOR THE FO TO INSTALL &
> REMOVE THE DEVICE.
>
> Probable Cause
> Procedure inadequate..Company/operator management
> Aircraft preflight..Inadequate..Pilot in command
> Aircraft preflight..Inadequate..Copilot/second pilot
> Flt control syst,elevator control..Jammed
>
> Contributing Factors
>
> Misc eqpt/furnishings..Improper
>
>
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