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Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] The Murder of the Stains Family Members in India.
Dear Mrs. Dueck:
I am as sorry as any compassionate person in India would
be that Mrs. Stains (your guest last night) lost her husbands and sons to
Hindu Fundamentalists during their allegedly "Christian" mission in India.
But you conclude that it was due to "religious intolerance". Do you not
think that it might as well have been due to the RELIGIOUS LIES and
RELIGIOUS RACKETEERING which you and your community practices in Canada
and the world over?
The motto of the Times of India is "Let Truth Prevail". Does TRUTH have
anything to do with Christian Missions in India? If so, you should be able
to tell the people of India what a CULTURE OF TRUTH is like. In the
1970's, Charles Correa was Chief Architect for New Bombay/Navi
Mumbai. This was a city built totally anew for 1/4 million; now over 1
million. In his book, "The New Landscape", Mr. Correa gives a picture of a
"mandala", a spiritually inspired drawing used in Ancient India to help
plan a new city.
If your community knew how to plan the villages and cities and
surroundings to constitute a "Culture of Truth" it would have said so long
ago. You are a community of liars and racketeers and for that I am truly
sorry, as I am sorry that THE BLOOD OF THE STAINS FAMILY IS ON YOUR HEADS!
FWP.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:54:13 -0700
> > From: Rob Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Franklin Wayne Poley' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: Reply From a Missions Fester.
> >
> > Head in the sand? Through the ministry of Christian Camping (in my little
> > corner of WA State) 3500 young people come face to face with the Savior and
> > are loved unconditionally by 110 college young people from the Northwest and
> > Lower Mainland. Not only are the kids touched but also their unbelieving
> > families. Lives are changed one heart at a time.
>
> I think we have to take this to an International Cybercourt now. The
> Chinese will have an interest in this matter as some half dozen Missions
> Fest 2000 booths had to do with missionary work in China. China takes a
> dim view of "religion racketeering" which is how they judged the Falun
> Gong Cult from what I heard of the matter. How will they judge the
> missionaries of Missions Fest?
> I spent a decade working daily on psychiatric teams as a psychologist
> so I can tell you any mental health professional would ask whether what
> you are doing with those 3,500 young people is more in the nature of
> inciting "hysterical conversion" than "religious conversion". Conversion
> hysteria has been well known for centuries and adolescents are
> particularly vulnerable. This would then constitute "preying" (on
> vulnerable youth) and not "praying". Just a good, honest question.
> How could we tell the difference? (1) "Face to Face"? Face to face has
> a clear meaning in the English language. What are the facial features of
> the Saviour based on these experiences? I am sure the Chinese Ministry of
> Religion would like to know. I certainly would. I'd like to see you
> explain that on Crossroads or Vision TV or Moral Divide. And it is typical
> of the expressions of self-professed "Christians" who also talk about
> their "PERSONAL" relationships with the Saviour. "Personal" means
> person-to-person. So are you trying to pull off a huge DECEPTION?
> (2) What are the "BELIEFS" of these young people? If the SPIRIT of the
> conversion is with them it is easy to prove. With so many young people
> stepping into all kinds of vocations they should be able to describe a
> complete society according to the teachings of the Saviour (with whom they
> have had that "face to face" relationship). After all, if 3,500 young
> Marxists had met with Karl Marx face to face it would be reasonable to ask
> them what a Marxist Society would be like.
>
> > I have never met any ministry that was not able to exhibit at missions fest.
>
> Now you have: Life-Gazette was denied a booth as I explained. Could it be
> that the Missions Fest Vancouver Board fears my exposing of RELIGION
> RACKETEERS? Of course that is it.
>
> > If the booth price was prohibitive they partnered with some other
> > organization to share the cost. Every exhibiter that I have met in the last
> > six years has been called by God to be there and help others discern what
> > God would have for their lives.
>
> That has been Life-Gazette's purpose since the late 1980's...to describe
> ("discern") the nature of a WAY OF LIFE ACCORDING TO THE TEACHINGS OF
> CHRIST. And that is why your community, so filled with liars and
> hypocrites has persecuted me ever since.
>
> Most of us at Missions Fest are looking for
> > workers to join in the harvest
>
> In this harvest we separate wheat from chaff. Which are you?
>
> and to give them options that will match
> > thire gifting, or give counsel to those considering the life of vocational
> > ministry. Your point seems to be that you want Canada to be a Christ
> > centered nation.
>
> I want Canada to KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE and then make its
> choice. Missions Fest Vancouver doesn't care if Canada has that option. No
> missionaries for "deepest, darkest Canada" but lots for all kinds of other
> countries all over the world. The so-called missionaries here are just
> limited providers of goods and services. But in the rain forest they
> transform entire cultures. By Truth or by fraud?!
>
> Christ told us to go and preach to all the nations, He
> > said nothing of their response, thats His job, ours is to go and tell.
>
> Christ's response is His teaching of a comprehensive way of life, ie
> culture, or what part of the word "ALL" from I Corinthians do I not
> understand? Why did Missions Fest Chairman Marsden quote it? To mock
> Christ's teachings as is the norm for this bogus "Christian" community?
>
> If
> > that is in fact your organizations purpose then you have failed to
> > adequately state it in terms that the rest of us simpletons can understand
> > (including our brothers and sisters who labor at the Missions Fest
> > organization).
>
> What I have said is crystal clear. And you understand what I have said.
> Simpleton is your word.
>
> My comments are not ment to stir up, I just can't understand
> > how you can believe that you are the only one out there that is truely
> > following Christ.
>
> Show me one place where I said that I am the only one out there who is
> truly following Christ.
> FWP.
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Franklin Wayne Poley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:03 PM
> > > To: Rob Lee
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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> > > Subject: Reply From a Missions Fester.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Rob Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you spent as much energy reaching the lost as you do with these
> > > emails
> > >
> > > Oh but I am reaching the lost...like you. You don't have a clue as to what
> > > Canada would be like if "God" were defined as the Christian God and
> > > actualized in daily life. Try something unusual for Missions Fest-be
> > > honest. Tell the truth, mindful that you claim to follow Someone who said
> > > "I came to tell the truth". Do you know what Canada as a "Culture of
> > > Truth" would be like? Or "Culture of Christ"? Other names are
> > > possible. Did Mfest 2000 tell the attendees what this would be like for
> > > Canada?
> > >
> > > > and going after Missions Fest
> > >
> > > It is led by false leaders. Don't you think it is a Christian obligation
> > > to shut down those who lie in Christ's name? It is called BEARING FALSE
> > > WITNESS.
> > >
> > > you might find God working inspite of you.
> > >
> > > I wanted to set up a booth to talk about what Canada with God working in
> > > daily life would be like...with me or in spite of me. Gosh, now THAT is
> > > something Mfest just HAD to suppress to "promote the welfare and
> > > interests" of its community re the Section 41 Exemption.
> > >
> > > > Your organization does not meet the critera that the rest of us at
> > > Missions
> > > > Fest meet year after year.
> > >
> > > Why? Because Life-Gazette journalism is decicated to articulating a
> > > complete society/culture/nation according to the teachings of
> > > Christ?
> > >
> > > This is a significant event
> > >
> > > Yes-and what an opportunity to tell Elsie Wayne, Svend Robinson et
> > > al. exactly HOW Canada would be better off as a Christian Nation. Do you
> > > know the answer to that, in-this-world as well as hereafter?
> > >
> > > where, in our case,
> > > > young people who are seeking ways to serve God on the mission feild.
> > >
> > > Serving young people or old people or sick people or well people is fine
> > > with me. Does the service you provide differ if you are Christians or
> > > Marxists or Atheists? Is it better? HOW? Do you know? Do you care to know?
> > >
> > > > Do me a favor and take me off of your mailing list.
> > >
> > > Of course. Obviously the teachings of Christ, ie of TRUTH are too
> > > overwhelming for you. Go back to your little scam with your head in the
> > > sand.
> > > FWP.
> > >
> > > > Rob Lee
> > > > Director of Firwood Summer Ministries
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Franklin Wayne Poley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:18 AM
> > > > > To: Aboriginal Ministries of PAOC; Action International
> > > Ministries;
> > > > > Africa Community Technical Services; Allin Ministries; Alpha
> > > Ministries
> > > > > Canada; Arab World Ministries; Ascent Leadership; Asian Outreach
> > > Canada;
> > > > > Associated Canadian Theological Schools; Azusa Pacific University;
> > > Bethany
> > > > > Bible Institute; Bibles for the World; Biola University; Blessings
> > > > > International; Bridges for Peace; Briercrest; Calcutta Missions of
> > > Mercy;
> > > > > Camp Homewood; Camp Luther; Camp Qwanoes; Camp Tulahead; Campus
> > > Crusade
> > > > > for Christ; Canadian Baptist Ministries; Canadian Bible College;
> > > Canadian
> > > > > Bible Society; Canadian Food for the Hungry; Canadian Jia Hua Society;
> > > > > Canadian South American Ministries; Canadian Southern Baptist
> > > Seminary;
> > > > > Canadian Sunday School Mission; Canadian Tentmaker Network; Capernway
> > > > > Harbour Bible Centre; Carefour Chretien Evangelique; Carey Theological
> > > > > College; Celebrant Singers; Centre for World Missions BC; Child
> > > Evangelism
> > > > > Fellowship of BC; Chosen People Ministry; Christ for all Nations;
> > > Christ
> > > > > for the Nations; Christar; Christian & Missionary Alliance; Christian
> > > > > Associates International; Christian Blind Mission; Christian
> > > > > Communications Inc.; Christian Reformed Church; Christian Teacher's
> > > Ass'n.
> > > > > BC; Christian Witness Ministries Inc.; Church Army of Canada; CityTeam
> > > > > Ministries; Colombia Para Cristo; Columbia Bible Camp; Columbia Bible
> > > > > College; Compassion Canada; Covenant Players; Creation Science Assoc.
> > > BC;
> > > > > Daybreak Point Bible Camp; Discipleship International; Edmonton
> > > Baptist
> > > > > Seminary; Educational Services International; Emmanuel International;
> > > > > English Language Inst. in China Society; Eurovangelism; Evangelical
> > > Free
> > > > > Church; Evangelical Lutheran Church; Evangelical Tract Distributors;
> > > FEB
> > > > > International; Firs Bible and Missionary; Focus on the Family;
> > > Frontiers
> > > > > Christian Ministries; Fuller Theological Seminary; Galcom
> > > International;
> > > > > Gateway Training for Cross Cultural Service; Gideons; Glad Tidings;
> > > Global
> > > > > Outreach; Gospel Echoes Team, Prison Ministry; Gospel Missionary
> > > Union;
> > > > > Greater Europe Mission; Greater Vancouver Youth for Christ; Green Bay
> > > > > Bible Camp; Haven of Peace Academy; Hellenic Ministries; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > > > > High Adventure Gospel Communications; IBS-International Bible Society;
> > > > > Impact Ministries; International Child Care; International Christian
> > > > > Ministries; International Messengers; International Needs Canada;
> > > > > International Teams of Canada; Interserve; Intouch Ministries; Janz
> > > Team
> > > > > Ministries; Joy Fellowship; KARI Radio; Kawkawa Camp; Keats Camps;
> > > King's
> > > > > University College; Kolnonia House; KWPZ radio; Language Recordings;
> > > > > Leprosy Mission Canada; Lesea Ministries/Feed the Hungry; Lifeline
> > > > > Outreach Society; Lighthouse Harbour Ministries; Logos; Lutheran
> > > Church of
> > > > > Canada; Men for Missions Int'l.; Mennonite Brethren Bible Seminary;
> > > > > Mennonite Brethren Missions; Mennonite Central Committee; Mennonite
> > > > > Church; Mercy Ships; Mexican Medical Missionaries; Mexican Outreach;
> > > > > Middle East Christian Outreach; Millar College of the Bible; Mission
> > > > > Aviation; Mission Aviation Training Academy; Mission Impossible;
> > > Mission
> > > > > Possible; Mission Without Borders; Moody Bible; Neighbourlink Canada;
> > > New
> > > > > Manna Ministries; New Missions of Canada; New Tribes Mission; Nipawin
> > > > > Bible Institute; North American Baptist College; North American
> > > Baptist
> > > > > Conference; North American Indian Ministries; Northwest Baptist
> > > College;
> > > > > Northwest Baptist Lead Program; Okanagan Gleaners; OMF International;
> > > OMS;
> > > > > Open Doors; Operation Mobilization; Overseas Radio and TV; Pacific
> > > > > Academy; Pacific Life Bible College; Pacific Missionary Aviation;
> > > Partners
> > > > > International; Paul's Little People's Ministry; Peace River Bible
> > > > > Institute; Pearl Broadcasting, KCCF Radio; Pioneers; Prairie HS/Bible
> > > > > College; Providence College; Rainbows of Hope; Red Sea Mission; Regent
> > > > > College; Rocky Mountain College; SA BC South Div.; Schloss Mittersill
> > > CC;
> > > > > Scripture Union; SEND Int'l.; Shantyman Int'l.; Silk Road Ministry;
> > > SIM
> > > > > Canada; Slavic Gospel Ass'n.; Society of Christian Schools; TEAM; Teen
> > > > > Missions Int'l.; Timberline Ranch; TWU; UFM; UIM Int'l.; Union Gospel;
> > > > > Urban Promise; Venture Teams; Voice of the Martyrs; Walk Thru the
> > > Bible;
> > > > > WEC Int'l; Western Pentecostal; Western Seminary; World Concern; World
> > > > > Radio; World Team Canada; World Thrust; World Vision; Worldserve;
> > > Wycliffe
> > > > > Bible Translators; YWAM
> > > > > Cc: Mfest Vancouver; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Promoting The Interests and Welfare of a
> > > > > Society "...founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of
> > > > > God...."
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Cc: Mfest Vancouver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:06 AM
> > > > > Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Promoting The Interests and Welfare of a
> > > Society
> > > > > "...founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God...."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > SUMMARY
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Board of Missions Fest Vancouver is not promoting the
> > > interests
> > > > > and
> > > > > welfare of a Christian Society but rather the interests and welfare of
> > > a
> > > > > Humanistic Society. Therefore it does not qualify for a Section 41
> > > > > exemption
> > > > > under the B.C. Human Rights Code. Circa 1990, when Spicer's "Citizens'
> > > > > Forum
> > > > > On Canada's Future" was active, Dr. Henry Morgantaler said that the
> > > battle
> > > > > for Canada's future would be one between Christianity and Humanism.
> > > The
> > > > > Board of Missions Fest Vancouver has opted for a bland form of
> > > Humanism,
> > > > > the
> > > > > kind which pays lip service to Biblical teaching. If it were promoting
> > > the
> > > > > interests and welfare of a Christian Society it would be eager to
> > > spell
> > > > > out
> > > > > and then actualize a Christian Society which does "all for the glory
> > > of
> > > > > God". It would be at least as eager to do so as Marxists are to spell
> > > out
> > > > > and actualize Marxist Society and Muslims are eager to spell out and
> > > > > actualize Muslim Society and so on. The Board of Missions Fest
> > > Vancouver
> > > > > has
> > > > > limited exhibits at the Convention to an assortment of goods and
> > > services
> > > > > from recreational to medical. The practical value of these goods and
> > > > > services in any society is not disputed. However, such exhibits do
> > > not, in
> > > > > and of themselves tell us how a Christian Society is better than any
> > > other
> > > > > society or what such a society would be like if it were to do "all for
> > > the
> > > > > glory of God". They do not tell us how a Christian Society differs
> > > from
> > > > > Muslim, Humanist, Atheistic society or a society based on any other
> > > > > ideology. My proposed exhibit for Missions Fest 2000 would have been
> > > an
> > > > > Information Booth for questions and answers concerning the nature of a
> > > > > complete society/culture/nation according to the teachings of Christ.
> > > The
> > > > > Board of Missions Fest Vancouver is lying to the public about its
> > > purpose
> > > > > and has no interest in a society which does "all for the glory of God"
> > > > > contrary to the statement of purpose by Missions Fest Vancouver
> > > Chairman,
> > > > > Alan Marsden. Therefore Missions Fest Vancouver engaged in unlawful
> > > > > religious discrimination in rejecting my application for an
> > > information
> > > > > booth at Missions Fest 2000. This was a violation of my human rights
> > > > > according to the B.C. Human Rights Code and Canadian Charter of Rights
> > > and
> > > > > Freedoms.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Del Phillips
> > > > > >Ombudsman Officer
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Dear Mr. Phillips:
> > > > > > Thank you for the invitation in your letter
> > > of
> > > > > March 24/00 to present to the Office of the Ombudsman my reasoning
> > > > > concerning why I do not believe Missions Fest Vancouver meets the
> > > criteria
> > > > > for an exemption under Section 41 of the B.C. Human Rights Code: "If
> > > you
> > > > > have evidence that Mission Fest Vancouver does not meet the criteria
> > > > > spelled
> > > > > out in section 41 of the Code...please contact us and we will consider
> > > the
> > > > > matter further." Section 41 is titled "EXEMPTIONS". And it begins with
> > > the
> > > > > word "If...". There is nothing in this section which says that you or
> > > the
> > > > > B.C. Human Rights Commission or any other judicial or quasi-judicial
> > > body
> > > > > are required to pre-judge such cases and take the word of these
> > > > > organizations that they are, as stated in section 41 engaged in "the
> > > > > promotion of the interests and welfare of an identifiable group" as
> > > they
> > > > > CLAIM to be. The Board of Missions Fest Vancouver is not what it
> > > claims to
> > > > > be. It is misrepresenting itself to the Christian community and the
> > > public
> > > > > at large. I don't think my evidence, i.e. reasoning to prove this
> > > beyond
> > > > > reasonable doubt is difficult to follow.
> > > > > > If the reasoning I presented previously to the B.C. Human Rights
> > > > > Commission and to the Office of the Ombudsman was not clear I will
> > > make it
> > > > > so now. I expect that any fair-minded adjudicator would accept the
> > > > > validity
> > > > > of what I am saying. It was Alan Marsden, Chairman of Missions Fest
> > > > > Vancouver who quoted I Corinthians 10:31 in the literature distributed
> > > at
> > > > > Missions Fest 2000, as a statement of purpose for Missions Fest. What
> > > part
> > > > > of the word "all" do I not understand? One cannot encompass "all"
> > > without
> > > > > articulating all levels of society from individual to the complete
> > > > > culture/society/nation.
> > > > > >That is what Life-Gazette journalism from its tabloid format in the
> > > late
> > > > > 1980's to its online discussions now has been about. And it was a
> > > display
> > > > > booth for Life-Gazette journalism that I had requested from Missions
> > > Fest
> > > > > Vancouver.
> > > > > > How could it contribute to the interests and welfare of the
> > > community
> > > > > which believes the teachings of Christ to discriminate against
> > > > > Life-Gazette
> > > > > without so much as giving an explanation? I had invited Missions Fest
> > > > > Vancouver to do so repeatedly and to meet with me. They declined. Try
> > > to
> > > > > reconcile this with the Golden Rule or with the story of the Good
> > > > > Samaritan.
> > > > > I received only one communication from Missions Fest which was an
> > > email
> > > > > early in this process. They said in effect that it was their right to
> > > > > choose
> > > > > whoever they wanted and reject whoever they wanted. That is patently
> > > > > untrue.
> > > > > That is not what the B.C. Human Rights Code permits and they do not
> > > have a
> > > > > Section 41 exemption. Nor is it Biblical. But let me allow for the
> > > > > prospect
> > > > > that they have some kind of monopoly on truth as the most capable of
> > > > > apostles.
> > > > > > Thus when Christ said "I came to tell the truth" these people
> > > listened
> > > > > and understood with the deepest of comprehension. What then is their
> > > > > CULTURE
> > > > > OF TRUTH, that articulation at ALL levels of culture from individual
> > > to
> > > > > complete society?, structurally and functionally, spiritually and
> > > > > materially?
> > > > > >Jesus Christ warned us of the false apostles repeatedly. One such
> > > warning
> > > > > is found in Revelation 2:2 in which He says "...thou hast tried them
> > > which
> > > > > say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars." I
> > > believe
> > > > > that any honest jurists, any jurists dedicated to truth would find the
> > > > > Missions Fest Board to be governed by liars. Similarly some of the
> > > > > exhibitors like Trinity Western University are corrupting the
> > > > > social-political body of Christ with their lies. Honest exhibitors
> > > must
> > > > > know
> > > > > that there are those of us who ARE dedicated to a "Culture of Truth"
> > > or
> > > > > "Culture of Christ" (and many other names could be given
> > > > > >like an "Enlightened Society" or "Godly Society" etc.).
> > > > > > Now let me turn this into an application for an information booth
> > > at
> > > > > Missions Fest 2001. Do you, Mr. Phillips, see any justification for
> > > the
> > > > > Missions Fest Board rejecting this application because they must do so
> > > in
> > > > > order to promote the interests and welfare of the society they
> > > envisage
> > > > > will
> > > > > be in accordance with Christ's teachings and will do "all for the
> > > glory of
> > > > > God"? Are you going to tell me that they can do so arbitrarily and
> > > without
> > > > > any kind of justification whatsoever? Are you going to tell the public
> > > > > that
> > > > > their "word" is sufficient? That they are exempt from the laws
> > > proscribing
> > > > > religious discrimination because they DECREE that they are acting in
> > > an
> > > > > honest, honourable and lawful manner? Are they not required to answer
> > > a
> > > > > few
> > > > > questions on this matter? Can they continue to pull the wool over the
> > > eyes
> > > > > of the flock without being challenged? Aren't you even going to ask
> > > them
> > > > > to
> > > > > repeat what they emailed to me earlier
> > > > > >that it is their RIGHT to arbitrarily choose and reject whoever they
> > > > > decide
> > > > > in utter contempt for law and justice and truth? Or are you going to
> > > > > accept
> > > > > that they are those infallible apostles whose word is law?
> > > > > > This is religious rackeering that you see practiced here, not only
> > > by
> > > > > Missions Fest but by others as I have noted. In the U.S. they have
> > > > > R.I.C.O.
> > > > > laws (RICO=Racketeering in Corrupt Organizations) and they are being
> > > used
> > > > > with greater and greater frequency to shut down those taking God's
> > > name in
> > > > > vain.
> > > > > >"Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the
> > > supremacy
> > > > > of
> > > > > God....". That quote from the Preamble of the Charter of Rights and
> > > > > Freedoms/Canadian Constitution was quoted in every issue of
> > > Life-Gazette.
> > > > > It
> > > > > is inconceivable that an organization which truly is dedicated to do
> > > "all
> > > > > for the glory of God" would be indifferent or negative toward
> > > articulating
> > > > > and then actualizing a "Godly Society".
> > > > > >Therefore if the Ombudsman's Office wants to be the honest
> > > adjudicator,
> > > > > let
> > > > > me suggest just one question to ask Missions Fest Vancouver: "Could
> > > you
> > > > > please describe for us, at least as well as missionaries describe
> > > pagan
> > > > > societies in the rain forest, what a Godly Society which does all for
> > > the
> > > > > glory of God would be like?" If they cannot do so I will be happy to
> > > start
> > > > > organizing my information booth for Missions Fest 2001 now, with the
> > > > > questions and answers pertaining to this topic.
> > > > > > In closing I will say that you at the Ombudman's Office and the
> > > B.C.
> > > > > Human Rights Commission have a wonderful opportunity to mete out
> > > justice
> > > > > on
> > > > > a much broader scale than my personal complaint. Remember what
> > > > > missionaries
> > > > > do. They have sat in judgement of hundreds, even thousands, of other
> > > > > cultures for two millennia. And they read Matthew 7:2 in which Jesus
> > > > > Christ
> > > > > says, "For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged; and with
> > > what
> > > > > measure ye mete, it shall be meaured to you again." Some half dozen
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > exhibits at Missions Fest 2000 had to do with missionaries in China
> > > and
> > > > > others sent their workers into various other countries. These
> > > > > Life-Gazettes
> > > > > reach thousands of people in dozens of countries in a week. They are
> > > very
> > > > > interested in Canadian justice on this matter.
> > > > > >Here is an opportunity for Canadian justice to tell the world that
> > > > > religious hypocrisy will not be tolerated.
> > > > > >False judgement will not be tolerated. Those educational television,
> > > > > one-hour documentaries on various world cultures are sometimes based
> > > on
> > > > > missionary observations. If we hold the measuring stick of their own,
> > > > > missionary observations, up to Christian Culture what do we get? Could
> > > > > they
> > > > > even give a description of Christian Culture on a par with one of
> > > those
> > > > > educational documentaries? If not, why should China or any other
> > > country
> > > > > trust so-called "Christian" missionaries? Why should they trust
> > > Canadians?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sincerely-FWP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >What would a complete society be like if it were to "do all for the
> > > glory
> > > > > of God"? (I Corinthians 10:31). What would Canada be like if it were a
> > > > > "Godly Society" functioning in this manner?
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