The CIA and Mind-Control For Kids//
--Fwd of a talk by Jon Rappaport

Last year, during the time we were putting together our series of
reports on the REAL story about the mass slaughter at Columbine High, we
had a number of important phone conversations with researcher Jon
Rappaport on the very same topic as this talk of his, reprinted below.
That is: mind control/manipulation projects and operations, conducted by
U.S. (covert[?]) government intelligence (and/or military) agencies or
factions thereof; which focus particularly or exclusively upon
victims/subjects who are children--of varying ages, depending upon the
particular project.

It's undeniable that certain of these inconceivably brutal projects are
implemented against children as young as 2 and 3 years old: others are
aimed more at kids close to or at the age of puberty; with all other age
groups in between targeted as well in various operations.

And we're NOT talking about "history" here, either. We're talking about
NOW; today; taking place somewhere right beneath the surface in YOUR OWN
smooth little suburban heaven... which is just the way Littleton used to
think of itself.

In regard to the Littleton school massacre: our conversations with
Rappaport helped us in our reports to zero in on the many clear
indications that Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were
massively-manipulated teenaged subjects of covert government mind
control projects, who were carrying out previously embedded,
pre-programmed directions and commands when they and a HOST of
accomplices and "accessories" launched the assault on Columbine High
School on April 20, 1999.

We found and published much information which supported this assessment
of Klebold and Harris.  Regarding Eric Harris, it was brought out that
beyond any doubt Harris was subjected to mind control experimentation
while he was living at Plattsburgh Air Force Base in northern New
York--just before moving to Littleton. This was clearly stated BY HARRIS
HIMSELF to a friend in the Plattsburgh area on several occasions. As
well, a former government operative/programmer who worked at the base
verified that a wide range of mind-altering drugs, along with
electromagnetic transmissions, hypnotic trance induction, ritualistic
psychosexual abuse and inculcation of cult-like belief systems (ala
Jonestown, Trenchcoat Mafia, etc.) and other forms of manipulation were
utilized on youngsters in tremendously extensive mind control projects there.

I'm very happy to provide the NewsHawk list with this example of
Rappaport's excellent, deep and thorough knowledge of this subject. Jon
also has a solid awareness of exactly how VAST the parameters or
dimensions of this hideous and utterly despicable, reprehensible field
of activity actually is.

NewsHawk® Inc.

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Subject: The CIA, Children & Mind-Control: JON RAPPAPORT
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 10:03:27 -0400
From: John DiNardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


CKLN-FM Mind Control Series — Part 10

The CIA, Mind Control & Children
A Talk by John Rappoport

CKLN FM 88.1
Ryerson Polytechnic University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
International Connection

Producer: Wayne Morris

Today we are going to hear from investigative journalist Jon Rappoport
give a talk entitled The CIA, Mind Control, and Children about
the CIA’s use of children for creating mind control agents. Author of
U.S. Government Mind Control Experiments on Children, he
talks about the impact of the mind control testimony submitted to the
Presidential hearings on radiation experiments. Jon also speaks
about the mindset of those responsible for these horrors and the
implications to society.


We are going to launch into this subject, but with a few comments before
we start. Mind control is one of those things people don’t like
to talk about, including yours truly frankly. I got into it, and I saw
the evidence, and it was … you know, there it was.

OfÞcially MKULTRA was a CIA mind control project that lasted about 10
years … let’s say from 1952 to 1962-63 … Before it started,
there was ARTICHOKE AND BLUEBIRD … those were other CIA mind control
projects. After it ended, supposedly in 1963, an ofÞce
called ORD OfÞce of Research and Development took it over. Their job we
don’t know about … we are not sure of everything they did
because that information is not available. It is in 130 boxes of
material somewhere … maybe in Langley, Virginia but they won’t release it.
Various people have said that they employed more sophisticated measures
than MKULTRA to do mind control on people.

I think one of the reasons that this is such an important subject is
because we are looking at people here who have a certain attitude about
life itself, and these people are in the government and they are in
important positions in the government … and in order to understand
what they are really about, we get a look at them that is unprecedented
by looking at what they did with this kind of experimentation on
humans. In other words, they hate life. That’s pretty clear. They have
their own version of life, which is like “death” and that’s where their
life is … that’s what they feed off of. I would say that most, if not
all, secret societies are based on the same concept. Once you cut
through all the paraphenalia and symbology of secret societies, you are
basically dealing with people who have, for one reason or another,
given up on life completely. They are now into the form of life that is
involved with death … that’s their territory. And it’s a pretty
horrendous thing to say, but I think that would be borne out. My own
feeling is that we are talking about a conþuence of different
inþuences here on individuals that go back a long way into the past …
into the history of families in which they grew up … I am talking
about long term history of what those families are … and these people
who are entirely functional, but entirely psychotic if you want to
use that term. It doesn’t really do it justice but it tells you
something about them. I am talking about John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles
… I would say they are very good examples. Look at their faces … look at
what you see there … you see almost nothing. There is a kind
of mask-like quality about these people, an emptiness — very competent
people who go about their business, who seem to have no feeling
or “juice” for life. And I would say these people are often born into
families who go back centuries possibly in that kind of disconnected
condition from life. While they are able to function very successfully
in society and deal with power, because that is their ticket and their
coinage, they Þnd that control and destruction of life is the only thing
really that gives them life.

Since I have read this information that I will be sharing with you
tonight, I am beginning to come to the conclusion that the people who
were involved in the nuclear weapons scenario really wanted to destroy
the world. It may seem obvious to say but they see that as
“liberation” if you can wrap your mind around that … as a release from,
what they consider to be an oppressive situation that just simply
can’t be tolerated. They see destruction as liberation and so the only
thing that would hold them back, I think, from destroying the world
is the feeling that they may not have the playground left in which to
enact their scenarios of destruction. There would only be one, and
that would be the explosion that would take care of the planet.

I would say that this is what we are dealing with. I would put up as a
model against that, on the other side, although this man is not a
messiah by any means, but if you know any of the work by Wilhelm Reich,
the psychiatrist who broke away from Freud, he developed
an entire psychology around the concept of liberation of energy … from
within the person … that was locked up. It was really the Þrst
time … he was the main Þgure in the history of Western psychology, let’s
put it that way … which was a recent effort. To simply say that
we are talking about energy here, and that freedom and the release of
free energy from a human being against blocked up channels gives
you what is called “life” — that’s life. And he was, of course,
destroyed by the government. He had a device that was an energy
accumulator device. He was arrested because a federal agent posing as a
buyer or distributor of that device offered to take off his hands
and bring it through state lines and so he was served a su bpoena to
appear before the federal government that involved illegal interstate
commerce, and his comment was rather native, he said, “how can they
possibly serve me … that’s politics … I am talking about science.”
He didn’t honour the subpoena, they put him in jail, and he died. He was
talking about fantastical things like plumes of blue energy
shooting out of the top of a person into the sky and this kind of
liberation of energy would occur. He said that energy creates clouds, and
storms, and weathers, the same energy that we have inside ourselves is
identical and he called the unit of it an “orgone”. He invented these
wild machines that were able to, supposedly, manoeuvre this energy
around. He is a fascinating person, and I always hold him up as a
person who ultimately stands for the other side of things — which is life.

The reason that you Þnd some of these fascist lunatics involved with
magic and occult sciences and heavy, heavy, heavy symbology and
all of that … is because within these secret societies, they are dealing
in death as life.

If you could imagine life as a kind of hourglass and they fall through
the top and through the skinny part and out the bottom and they
see that as being a form of living, and they take their sensation and
their thrills from some sort of upside down version of life. I wanted to
paint that little sketch before I started, because we are going to get
into some pretty strange territory here. I want to say that I think this is
basically what is going on. It’s important to know that these people
occupy key positions in our government and still do and they are not
accountable. It tells you something about what is called a democracy …

I have brought some testimony together into this book called, US
Government Mind Control Experiments on Children. It’s a
compilation basically of testimony that was given in Washington and
before I read from it while I can still remember … I want to make a
few announcements, a little bit about myself and the people who are here
tonight. This is Deep River Books. She Who Remembers is
taping this talk … the tape is available afterwards. I will probably
forget to remind you and Jeannie will stand up and say something.
Ralph Cole of Justice Vision is taping. He has also been taping meetings
of Heal, an alternative AIDS group which is doing some
excellent work about bringing the truth about AIDS to people and he has
some of those tapes available too. This book is available
upstairs at Deep River, and so is another book of mine, called AIDS Inc.
which I wrote in 1988.

I am investigative reporter, for about the last Þfteen years, and I
basically have been investigating what I call medical fascism which I
believe is the mechanism by which people are going to be dragged into
Brave New World if that is the outcome that we unfortunately end
up with. That issue is not decided, but because the medical world has
such great authority with people, they believe so much in doctors
and experts, they are going to try to make that move … they are going to
try to bring people to heel under the aegis of medicine … they
are going to try to say that they know science, and therefore you have
to listen to what they say, and if they say take a drug, or you are
suffering from a germ, there is no questioning that. If they say you are
detained or quarantined, there is no questioning that … I see that
as being something that is coming around here.

This testimony was given before the President’s Committee on Radiation
on March 15, 1995. We had three people who went up there
from New Orleans … Valerie Wolf, a therapist and two of her clients,
Claudia Mullen and Chris Denicola. God only knows how they got
in and testiÞed. I have heard the story from Valerie, and I still don’t
even believe it, but … basically she told me the screener up there, the
person who was screening applicants to speak about cruel and unusual
radiation experiments on Americans … she said, well I have
clients and they are saying that some of these doctors who administered
radiation, administered mind control to them so we want to talk.
And they said okay. They testiÞed, from what I can gather, for a very
short period of time verbally. They submitted a lot of testimony to
the Committee from other therapists and other patients, and they somehow
got in … nobody knows how … but they got in and that opens
a certain kind of door for us, because it puts it on th e record and it
gives it a certain legitimacy and what these patients essentially said
was, from the time they were 4 years old, 7 years old, they were
tortured by the CIA and the military. You can call it something more
sophisticated, but it really isn’t. It involved electroshock, physical
torture, lights, spinning tables, hallucinogenic drugs, sleep deprivation,
isolation tanks, hypnosis, mind programming with commands, layers of
trauma that induced buffer zones of amnesia between the
traumas, and essentially thereby created multiple personalities. As one
psychological theory has it, if you induce enough trauma, you get
a split in the personality because the person can’t face the pain, so
they put that part out of it, and they come with a new personality. If
you keep doing it, you invoke or create different personalities, and
then if you are the CIA you try to program these sub-personalities to
do different things like memorize information photographi cally and not
remember it, do courier operations, assassinations, sex agents,
blackmail operations, all of this.

Now I must say that I think some representations of this kind of
operation are a little too neat and clean … that is people assume it is like
(clicks Þngers …) … okay we will create 37 personalities now and program
each one … do these commands and call it up and da da da da
… I really doubt that it works that way. I think that in many cases, it
is a total wash-out. In many cases, it is just psychosis time, madness.
(In many cases people are killed because they just won’t respond, and
they will not stand for it no matter what is induced …) There are
two tracks here … and these are the tracks. There is testimony by the
people saying this was done to me … and then you decide if you
believe that or not. Then over here, there are attempts to verify
through obtaining documents from the CIA and the military that such
experiments did in fact go on to create a parallel track of research to
give credence to what these people are saying over here because
there are many good people w ho want to say this is all nut-case
territory over here, and we don’t want to know about it, and frankly, I
don’t blame them. So the researchers have said, the ones who are really
into this, we want to try to document it as well on the other side
and efforts have been made in that direction, and continue to be made in
that direction.

Let me introduce into the record, and it would be nice if we were all
sitting here in front of an Arlen “Single Bullet Theory” Spector and
people like that … something called Volume Seven, Recent Advances in
Biological Psychiatry, the Proceedings of the19th Annual
Convention and ScientiÞc Program of the Society of Biological
Psychiatry, Los Angeles, May 13, 1964. The OfÞcers of this group
include Ewen Cameron, M.D., Psychiatrist from Canada many will recognize
as possibly the major monster on the planet as far as mind
control … much has been written about him … I am not going to talk much
about him tonight. In Part One in the Table of Contents, we
have the following paper: “Automatic Nervous System Responses in
Hospitalized Children Treated with LSD and UML” and one of the
researchers is Loretta Bender. Loretta Bender cannot be nailed down as
being a CIA employee. She was in fact, in 1961, a president of
the Society of Biological Psychiatry, but she was part of a small group
of researchers who were doing early LSD research … most of
whom were doing it for the CIA. She attended conferences where those
people showed up … like this, and she attended at least one
conference by the Josiah Macey Foundation which was a conduit and front
for CIA money. The paper is rather lengthy but I am just
going to read you a few things from it. This is not part of the book.

“In the children’s unit of Creedmore State Hospital with a resident
population of 450 patients, ages 4 to 15, we have investigated the
responses of some of these children to lysergic acid and related drugs
in the psychiatric, psychological and biochemical areas. Two
groups of boys receiving daily LSD, UML (which is a methylated
derivative of LSD) or psilocybin … at Þrst the medication was given
weekly but was eventually given daily for periods of up to several
months. Dosages remain constant throughout, LSD 150 mcg. (which
is a standard for an adult trip), psilocybin 20 mg. daily or UML 12 mg.
daily, all given in two divided doses. The average duration of
treatment was 2 to 3 months.” Daily. Children, 7, 9 , 11 years old …

The psychiatrist who sent me this told me that he has a statement at
home which he is going to fax me which shows that in several cases
at least with these children, this was carried on for several years
daily. Of course, all of the testimony here about what happened to the
children is they got nothing but better … these were autistic, retarded
(a loose term signiÞying really nothing), but autistic or
schizophrenic children … that was the diagnosis. They all “responded,
became more straightforward, and here” and whatever. You decide

That is a very signiÞcant piece of evidence here. That shows that as
early as 1964, the CIA was in fact experimenting … or a person with
probable CIA connections … was experimenting on young children with LSD
and other similar drugs.

Now I have here a staff memorandum given to me by Harlan Girard, a very
active researcher in his Þeld, to Members of the Advisory
Committee on Human Radiation Experiments from the Advisory Committee
staff on June 27, 1994, and this is a summary of the CIA, its
history and its activities. In other words, members of the Committee on
Radiation staff submitted this to the Committee at large to kind of
clue them in on what the CIA is prior to the 1995 Hearing of the
President’s Committee on Radiation, and they say, “In the 1950’s and
60’s the CIA engaged in an extensive program of human experimentation
using drugs, psychological and other means, in search of
techniques to control human behaviour for counter intelligence and
covert action purposes.” This is quite an admission. In other words,
they are training agents, it says here, by using mind control on them.
It doesn’t say they are using mind control just to sort of get
information from foreign agents. The possibility that the CIA itself
engaged in human radiation experiments emanates from references in
a 1963 CIA Inspector General’s report on project MKULTRA which was a
“program concerned with research and development of
chemical, biological and radiological materials capable of deployment in
clandestine operations to control human behaviour.” Now in the
rest of this report, they indicate that they cannot Þnd any records of
speciÞc radiological experiments carried out by the CIA, and
obviously they are looking. This doesn’t look like a total whitewash.

But that doesn’t mean that you believe them, it just means that those
records have been destroyed or hidden away deep hidden away …
because everybody agrees that radiation is a bad thing … and the CIA …
the last thing they want is for people to believe that they used
radiation on people. But this does indicate that there was a reference
about research and development of radiation by the CIA for
purposes of deployment in clandestine operations to control human
behaviour. How the hell do you use radiation in clandestine
operations to control human behaviour? Well, I would suggest that you
use it to traumatize people whom you are training as agents so
that you can gain control of them and you therefore have them under your
thumb, and they do what you want them to do. The testimony
here tends to bear that out … that radiation was used on people as a
method of inducing trauma, not as a way of testing … you know …
does radiation cause harm? Which is sort of the gist of the President ‘s
Committee on Radiation … they went half-way. They said
“terrible things were done to unwitting Americans … radiation was used
by doctors on them in hospitals” but this goes further, we are
now talking about a whole other leve, because those those experiments
which were supposedly carried on as a misguided effort to see
what toxicity levels were like, unfortunate occurrences, things got out
of control at times, isolated individuals did commit crimes, da da da
da …. you know. But they were attempting to do medical research … and
that’s one of those hypnotic phrases, “medical research”. I could
probably put everybody to sleep just by saying “medical research,
medical research …” (laughter) And people would reach into their
pockets and come out with money, man … well hey, cancer and infantile
paralysis and m.s. … whatever you want … I’ll give you money …
medical research, medical research. Politicians know that’s the key they
turn all the time … when they can’t Þgure out what to say, they
say we need more money for research … and that means tax money and it
means things you don’t want to be subjected to most of the
time …

Valerie Wolf is something else … this woman is down in New Orleans … she
is seeing clients other people won’t see … therefore they tell
strange stories. These are clients who have been Þred by other
therapists … they are very unruly, out of control, they do not recover,
nothing works, they cut themselves, they go into hospitals, they try to
commit suicide … they are people that therapists generally þee from
… and she says “let’s go …” That’s her scene … so it stands to reason
that she would hear stories that other therapists cannot hear … and
in her statement to the Committee on Radiation March 15, 1995, she says,
“ … the research programs [that her clients were submitted to]
included radiation, drugs, mind control and chemicals … my clients have
reported all of these being used on them, although technically
they were considered to be part of the mind control experiments.
Generally it appears that therapists across the country are Þnding clients
who have been subjected to mind control techniques. The consistency of
their stories about the purpose of the mind control and the
techniques such as electroshock, use of hallucinogens, sensory
deprivation, spinning, dislocation of limbs, and sexual abuse is
remarkable. There is almost nothing published on this aspect of mind
control used on children, and these clients come from all over the
country having had no contact with each other. From the small sample of
therapists to whom I talked, it appears that about 25% of the
clients report memories of being used in radiation experiments. It is
possible that more people were exposed to radiation, but that the
memories have not yet emerged because our awareness of this
experimentation is so new.”

Let me say now, before we get into it further, that the one organization
in the United States that has tried to debunk all of this is called the
False Memory Syndrome Foundation. They are based in Philadelphia. They
say that any recovered memories in therapy, that is any
patient who goes into therapy and recovers a memory is a liar or
unintentionally lying because their therapist induced it, suggested it,
guided it, okay? Now, I talked to these people and at certain levels
they are very well meaning of course … that is always the way. I talked
to their PR person and I asked when were you born, this organization?
She said, “1992”. I said well how extensive is it? And she said,
“We have a chapter in every state.” Now for anybody who has ever been an
activist or worked in non-proÞt 501C3 … are you kidding me
man? You have a chapter in every state in 3 years? You’re cooking, you
are cooking … and in foreign countries they have chapters too.
But no foundation money and no government funding … this is like, you
know, they are like … walking on water … you know? (audience
member: “It took McDonald’s longer …) There we go. That’s the False
Memory Syndrome Foundation … (audience member: “individual
contributions …”) It is true … now that organization was founded by
Pamela Freyd … her daughter accused her husband of abuse as a
child … and in the resultant uproar they founded this organization …
Frontline on PBS did an entire episode on all of this …

… and then received a letter, from I think it was the daughter’s brother
who said, that was quite a presentation you put on about the FMSF
and my mother … and I just wanted to tell you though that despite your
sympathetic treatment of this organization, everything my sister
said was absolutely true and they were abusing her from the time she was
a little kid.” That’s interesting about the beginning of this

Now on the board of this organization we have such luminaries as Louis
Joly West … Louis “I never worked for the CIA” Joly West.
This guy has been documented to have done all kinds of stuff for the CIA
and military on mind control stuff … gave LSD to an elephant,
and killed it. Wanted to start the Centre for the Study of Violence at
UCLA in the l970’s. We have letters, and this was going to be
located in a used, abandoned missile base somewhere out north of LA, and
part of the deal was they were going to do psychosurgery on
violent offenders which is the selective melting of brain connections to
keep people from being violent. And this was touted as being
highly medical, very precise. This is right in the ballpark of what I am
talking about here when they say “it’s all medical … we have
miniaturized and we can take out certain neurons here and there, and
everything’s cool.” Some people throw up their hands and say who
am I to … I don’t know … maybe they are right …

Peter Breggin, a psychiatrist who investigates toxic drugs and violence
projects against citizens using psychiatry as a front … he lays it on
psychiatrists. He discovered that the one case where they claimed a cure
by psychosurgery was turned into a gibbering lunatic and that’s
why he was cured of violence. He wasn’t able to even live unless
somebody was taking care of him all the time and this particular patient
was heralded as a cure by Frank Irvin and Bernie Sweet and these guys in
the 70’s who were the doctors doing psychosurgery. That was
their model, showcase cure of violence.

So Louis West, who wanted to start this centre at UCLA, is on the board
of FMSF and so is Martin Orne, a Harvard psychiatrist who
has done contract work for the CIA in the past. And several other people
who have those kinds of connections. They want to debunk this
stuff right out of the box … forget it. This is the kind of stuff they
want to debunk. Claudia Mullen, client of Valerie Wolf, reports to the
Presidential Commission: “Between the years of 1957 and 1984 I became a
pawn in a government scheme whose ultimate goal was mind
control and to create the perfect spy. All through the use of chemicals,
radiation, electroshock, hypnosis, drugs, isolation in tubs of water,
sleep deprivation, brainwashing, and verbal, physical, emotional and
sexual abuse. I was exploited unwittingly for nearly three decades of
my life, and the only explanation given to me was that ‘the end justiÞes
the means’ and I was serving my country in their bold effort to
Þght communism. I can only summarize my circumstances by saying they
took an already abused 7 year old child and compounded my
suffering beyond belief. In 1958 I was to be tested, they told me, by
some important doctors coming from a place called The Society […
that’s the Human Ecology Society, a known CIA front]. I was told to
cooperate, answer any of their questions, then since the tests might
hurt, I would be given shots, xrays, and jolts of electricity. I was
also instructed not to look in anyone’s face too hard and to ignore names,
as this was a very secret project … but to be brave and all those things
would help me forget. Naturally as most children do, I did the
opposite, and remembered as much as I could. A Dr. John Gittinger
[Rapaport: these people in the testimony named names, they did not
screw around …] tested me and Dr. Cameron gave me the shocks, and Dr.
Green, the xrays. Then I was told by Sid Gottlieb I was right
for the Big A … meaning Artichoke.”

“By the time I left to go home, just like every time from then on, I
would recall nothing of my tests or the different doctors. I would only
remember whatever explanations Dr. Robert Heath of Tulane Medical School
gave me for the odd bruises, needle marks, burns on my
head and Þngers, and even the genital soreness. I had no reason to
believe otherwise. Already they had begun to control my mind. The
next year I was sent to a place in Maryland called Deep Creek Cabins to
learn how to sexually please men. I was taught how to coerce
them into talking about themselves. It was Richard Helms, Deputy
Director of the CIA, Dr. Gottlieb, Capt. George White and Morse
Allen who all planned on Þlming as many high government and agency
ofÞcials, and heads of academic institutions and foundations as
possible. So later, when the funding for radiation and mind control
started to dwindle, then the project would continue at any cost [in
other words, blackmail]. I was to become a regular little spy for them
after that summer. Eventually trapping many unwitting men,
including themselves, all with the use of a hidden camera. I was only 9
years old when this kind of sexual humiliation began. I overheard
conversations about a part of the agency called ORD run by Dr. Green,
Dr. Stephen Aldrich, Martin Orne and Morse Allen ….”

Dr. John Gittinger was Sid Gottlieb’s protege … Gittinger tested
everybody. He was like a fanatical tester, developing proÞles of humans,
different types of humans, all kinds of questionnaire type tests. Sid
Gottlieb was the head of MKULTRA projects for the CIA … a very
high ranking bureaucrat, probably never treated a patient in his life.
These people (testifying) were saying that these people were doing it
… they were not supervising it alone, they were doing it. Dr. Green
seems to be a name that is a cover name that many different people
used. However there was a Dr. L. Wilson Green, Technical Director of US
Army Chemical and Radiological Laboratories at the Army
Chemical Centre … so we could have both things happening there. Richard
Helms became director of the CIA … a real smooth operator.
He was the person who destroyed many MKULTRA Þles before they could be
revealed. Capt. George White made a statement to the
effect of “nowhere else but in the CIA could a young, red-blood ed
American rape, pillage and plunder without … accountability” He set
up a brothel in San Francisco in the 60’s, paid off prostitutes to bring
in johns to a room which he was Þlming, and these johns
unwittingly drank LSD in their cocktails, and Þlming was supposedly to
determine what the effects of LSD were on unwitting subjects.
This is documented up and down. By the way, for those of you who want to
get the background here, John Marks’ Search for the
Manchurian Candidate, Walter Bowart’s Operation Mind Control now
updated, are upstairs … and there is a very difÞcult book to
Þnd called The Mind Manipulators by Alan Scheþin which goes into a wider
arena and is a very valuable reference source. There are
many other books, Journey into Madness … but the Marks’ book, Scheþin
book, and the Bowart book all took off from the same
revelation of the ten or so boxes of information that were Þnally
released by the CIA in about 1977 … they were actually Þnancial records
of MKULTRA. They didn’t think they were very incriminating, but they
Þnally began to look at them and saw they were very
incriminating. A mistake …

Then we had Morse Allen who was the head of Project Bluebird, another
mind control project. High up people here she is talking about
… who planned on Þlming as many high up ofÞcials … She says “I overheard
conversations about a part of the agency called ORD run
by Dr. Green, Dr. Stephen Aldrich” who became Director of ORD researched
remote control of brains by electrodes, he went to the
college I went to, Amherst College … hope I run into him some time.
Martin Orne, mentioned again … we are not stinting here on names,
these people just named them … sitting here in a room in Washington,
D.C. before the President’s Committee on Radiation saying that
Richard Helms was involved in torture and brainwashing of children. Now,
Valerie Wolf makes this comment about Claudia Mullen:
“After 9 months of therapy, she came to therapy one day with MKULTRA
written with other words on a piece of paper … the Þrst time
… she had never mentioned any of this before. From that point on, she
began to work on the mind control issues and began to improve.
All of her memories have emerged spontaneously, without the use of
memory enhancement techniques such as hypnosis or sodium
amytal. I had told her nothing about government and CIA research
projects. To the best of my knowledge, she has read nothing about
mind control or CIA covert operations. Since she decided to listen
carefully and remember as much as she could about conversations
among the researchers, her memories are extraordinarily complete. I have
sent written copies of memories to Dr. Alan Scheþin for
validation [the author of The Mind Manipulators who is a professor of
law at the University of Santa Clara]. He has conÞrmed that she
has knowledge of events and people that are not published anywhere …
that some of her memories contain new information and that
some are already known and published. Some of her memories have been
conÞrmed by family members. She has also shown me old
scrapbooks where she wrote notes to remember what was happening to her,
and hid the notes under the pictures in the scrapbooks.”
Claudia Mullen states that she is still being monitored, that there is a
doctor in New Orleans, who was her family doctor. She names him
in her longer testimony … and she said to me, “don’t tell him you are
going to do something before you do it, just do it.”

Apparently as recently as a month or two ago, she feels that … it’s a
strange situation … apparently she is not positive that this doctor was
monitoring her, but now she is. She went to his ofÞce … she doesn’t
remember what happened to her … there were marks on her when
she left the ofÞce … and she feels he is still monitoring her. So there
is an element of danger involved in this, for these people. Some of
these statements in here are anonymous. Some therapists made statements
anonymously because there was public censure by their peers
for getting into this stuff. I am told that a therapist named Corey
Hammond spoke at a recent convention on methods of deprogramming
this kind of mind control that he has developed … Valerie Wolf says she
is using these, and they are terriÞc, they work. He has been
subject to a lot of censure by other psychologists, societies, whatever
it is and that he doesn’t want to talk to people any more, just for
making a verbal presentation at this conference.

Chris Denicola, another client of Valerie Wolf. Tucson, Arizona. “I was
taught how to pick locks, be secretive, use my photographic
memory. Dr. Green taught me a technique to withhold information by
repeating numbers to myself. He would show me information,
then shock me [electroshock]. I would repeat the numbers in my head. I
refused to disclose the information that he just gave me, and he
found me to be very successful in that part of his mind control
experiment. I was four years old. He moved on to wanting me to kill dolls
that looked like real children. I stabbed a doll with a spear once,
after being severely tortured. The next time I refused. Dr. Green used
many torture techniques, but as a I got older, I resisted more and more.
He often tied me down in a cage near his ofÞce. Between 1972
and 76, he and his assistants were sometimes careless and left the cage
unlocked. At these times I snuck into his ofÞce and found Þles
with reports and memos addressed to CIA and military personnel. Included
in these Þles were program projects, sub-projects, subject
and experiment names, with some code numbers for radiation and mind
control experiments. I was caught twice and Dr. Green tortured
me ruthlessly with electric shock, drugs, spinning me on a table,
putting shots in my stomach and my back, dislocating my joints and
hypnotic techniques to make me feel crazy and suicidal. Because of my
rebellion and growing lack of cooperation, they gave up on me as
a spy assassin. Consequently the last two years, 1974-76, Dr. Green had
access to me. He used various mind control techniques to
reverse the spy-assassin messages through self destruct and death
messages if I ever remembered anything. His purpose? He wanted me
dead and I have struggled to stay alive all of my adult life. I believe
that it is truly by the grace of God that I am still alive.”

That’s just a piece of her testimony. A statement from Alan Scheþin,
lawyer, professor of law, Santa Clara: “Claudia’s therapist [Valerie
Wolf] has been kind enough to send me, with her client’s informed
consent, some of the pertinent records reþecting Claudia’s memories
of her experiences as an unwitting subject in these experiments. I have
been able to conÞrm that some of the information Claudia has
provided is absolutely true and could not have been derived from any
published source.” I spoke with Scheþin and he said to me, I
thought he was playing it a little close to the vest with this, I
understand he is writing a book on this, so I don’t know … he said,
“there is
one piece of information that I was able to conÞrm, and I don’t know how
she could possibly have known this. It involves the connection
between two government researchers that is not published anywhere” and
he said “I just happened to know that they are connected and
she mentioned that they knew each other.”

Let me just comment on some of this here. All throughout this testimony
you have other clients and patients saying similar things. Dr.
Green, Dr. Green, Dr. Green, Dr. Green. Electroshock. Torture, sex abuse
and all of that. About three weeks ago I met a woman who is a
therapist. She works north of Los Angeles. If you met this woman and
talked to her, you would say ‘she’s very on top of things, she is
very smart, she seems like a real human being.’ So she looks at me and
she says, “I was part of this when I was a kid, as a child.” She
doesn’t want to talk about it yet, but she said, “… this business about
creating perfect spies, I don’t think that’s it. I don’t think that’s why
they were really doing it.” Part of the explanation about what they were
supposedly trying to do was to create blank slates … that was
their thinking. You can take a human being and erase their mind, then we
can program it to be whatever we want it to be. Well adults just
go psychotic, so let’s try children … they are more þexible and they
have less in their mind to take out … how mechanistic can you get,
and that would be the rationale supposedly. From that it has been
assumed that the whole point of this was to create a perfect spy, with
with nice neat categories of sub-personalities, and program and trigger
words, manchurian candidate type stuff. You know, “we will now
call up sub-personality 134. Are you there?” “Yes I am here.” “What have
you learned on your recent trip to Vienna?” Start. Bing. And
then sub-personality 134 says, “I boarded the train, and went to Vienna,
and read the following documents that were given to me …” —
like a computer? That this was the intention. But this woman said to me,
“Yeah, but I think there is something beyond this. It is
somewhere in the back of my mind, but I can’t get to it.” I didn’t
question her about how she knows this, but she said “First of all this was
a very wide-ranging project … there were echelons of the project, not
just simply one level. There were children brought up from South
America and Mexico. They were considered expendable. They were used with
the crudest techniques of brainwashing and so forth. The
idea was to learn from this techniques in a more reÞned way techniques
that would be used on another echelon of children. The best and
brightest in America.” I said, “Do you mean children from well-to-do
families?” She said, “Not necessarily. The smartest.”

They could be thinking that what they want to do is program these kids
who would later, supposedly, emerge in prominent positions in
society, so that they would then have long term control of society by
controlling people in power positions. She said (she didn’t say
“yes”) but she said, “Well, yeah, that makes sense. The Nazis got a hold
of the intelligentsia. They turned the intelligentsia — they were
able to either silence or bring the intelligentsia into their fold — so
it was a major project. She said to me, “They brought a lot of doctors
over here after the War and not just the rocket scientists … they
brought a lot of doctors over here.” And all throughout this testimony
you will read, sprinkled here, “a doctor with a German accent … was it
Green … was it Greenburg … a German Jew? … did it look like he
was a Jew? … he had blonde hair …” That kind of stuff.

I would say this is a Nazi project, but a lot of the Nazis are
American-born. It shouldn’t be excused or explained away on that basis
because as we know, if we look at Nazi psychiatry for example, they
learned a lot from the Americans, especially about eugenics. This is
not something where we should say, “ … well, the Nazis took over …” This
is home-grown stuff. This is Americana at its worst, at its
lowest form. This is also the sub-sub-basement that you walk into when
you are a materialist, when that is your philosophy. And I don’t
mean you are a materialist in the sense that you want money, possessions
… I mean, philosophically. The materialist position is that we
are meat, and tissue, and cells, and electrical impulses, and that’s it.
When that system collapses, we are gone, never to return. My own
feeling is that when you espouse and embrace that philosophy, the
ultimate, ultimate sub-basement that you end up in is that
sub-basement … that’s where you end up. Finally, that’s where it all
comes out.

I must say, even though I admire many of the researchers on
psychedelics, and feel that they are basically liberating types of
people, I
think some of them make a mistake when they start talking about, “ …
well, it’s all chemicals anyway … what difference does it make? …
we are only dealing with chemical reactions anyway, so what’s this
nonsense about consciousness separate from chemicals?” They are
using that of course to say, “why is the government trying to outlaw the
use of psychedelics, if in fact all consciousness is chemical
anyway, they are just being selective in their choices of chemical …
they are saying ‘alcohol - yes, lsd - no’.” But I think these people have
something to think about in this one area. I am not trying to put them
down at all, in fact I admire them. But I think when they start
talking about “well, consciousness is just chemicals anyway…” I am
afraid I have to disagree. I think it is a lot more than chemicals. You
can certainly make people do very bizar re things with chemicals, and
you can make them suffer a great deal because we are in these
bodies … it’s a lot more than that. That’s where I think you wind up.
You wind up with this crazy idea about programming people … that’s
where I think you wind up with this stuff.

On the plus side, if we know this, if we understand what is happening
here, and therapists can be brought into this whole dialogue, then
we are talking about bridging something that is very un-middle-class
into the middle-class and into people who normally don’t consider
these kinds of things because we are talking therapists here, private
practice therapists whose patients come into their ofÞce and say “I
was part of CIA mind control.” I am not saying that the middle class is
not some fabulous entity that we have to somehow court, but I am
saying that this is an issue which can get some people involved who
normally do not get involved and if they are so willing, they can
create some havoc with the government and that’s my next point here.

One of the reasons that I am going into this, and getting involved in
it, is because I want people to begin to see the government for what it
actually is and I think this is a way of doing that. Unequivocally
coming to it. People say, “the government, yeah … if we just get more of
the right people in … a little more funding for research … more this …
more that … everything is going to work out and we will get the
nice guys, elect Bill and don’t elect George, and elect Jim and don’t
elect Phil …” You know … it’s all this kind of whipsawing stuff I see
every time an election comes around. “We gotta vote for Bill because if
we don’t we’ll get George …” and this and that … boppada bop ….
It’s like a vice that people are in, and everybody knows it.

I have a statement here from Colin Ross. A very interesting man. Never
heard of him before. He’s a psychiatrist from Richardson, Texas.
He has been researching the CIA for 20 years. Every time an MKULTRA type
researcher dies, he sends away FOIA requests, because
he Þgures, well the guy is dead, they will be more likely to release the
documents now, and he just … he’s very cute with this, see? He
accumulates a little of this, a little of that. MKULTRA had about 139 to
150 sub-projects … nobody knows what they all were, or even if
that is the subtotal. It’s the basic mind control project of the CIA
after WWII. He has Þles on as many of these as he can possibly get. “I
have in my possession about 80 of the 149 sub-project Þles which I
obtained through FOIA, Þling requests with the CIA on each
deceased investigator of interest.” (I like that.) He says,
“Neurosurgeons at Tulane, Yale and Harvard did extensive research on brain
electrode implants with intelligence funding and combined bra in
implants with large numbers of drugs including hallucinogens.” So
while they were telling Tim Leary and Richard Alpert to get out of
Harvard … because a few people were taking acid and enjoying it …
there were other people there who were inserting electrodes in people’s
brains and then giving them acid. “MKULTRA alone included
four sub-projects on children, one was conducted at the International
Children’s Summer Camp in Maine by an unwitting investigator.
The MKULTRA sub-project Þle in my possession for this project states
that “the CIA’s interest in this research was in establishing
contact with foreign nationals of potential future operational use by
the CIA. The children who served as subjects in the project were as
young as eleven years old.”

“Multiple personality disorder patients in treatment throughout the
United States and Canada are describing involvement in mind control
research that is much more sophisticated than MKULTRA. Deliberate sexual
abuse of children to make them more dissociative … “ and
then he ends up simply by saying, “I would be pleased to testify at
length at any hearings on CIA and military mind control.” Colin Ross,
M.D. Psychiatrist Richardson Texas

Here is a statement from a therapist submitted anonymously. “One client
told me that they were made to believe they had been abducted
by UFO’s so that if memories were retrieved, they would be discredited
by the community.” I found that kind of interesting. Hmmm.
Other people mentioned satanic costumes … CIA people putting on satanic
costumes while they were doing their crazy stuff here …

Here’s John Boyd, Ph.D., Clinical Psychologist, practiced clinical
psychology for 25 years, Ohio State, University of Virginia. “I have
treated three patients whose memories of childhood abuse include
detailed recall of sophisticated mind control technology being inþicted
upon them by “experts” in collusion with the patients’ mentally
disturbed parents. The independent reports of these individuals contain
similar information of an esoteric and intricate nature concerning mind
control technology which in my opinion could be gained only
through personal experience.” The press says nothing. The press says
zero about this.

Here’s a woman operating under the pseudonym I believe of Chandra
Walker-Michaels. “I learned how to handle weapons, particularly
how an ice-pick left a neat hole, a hole that allowed so little blood to
escape that the victim could remain in public view for hours before
they would be discovered not to be napping.” “I was taken on planes to
Germany and Egypt to assist Joe with arson … to Israel, along
with messages … to Mexico for terrorist activities. I remember a small
laboratory in a partially exposed basement of a large building I
visited many times starting at age four south of Washington, D.C. At the
age of fourteen I was drugged and woke up on a stretcher, and I
heard men outside my door discussing how they had gotten me past the
guards at Langley that night. At the age of Þfteen Joe introduced
me to an elderly man who he referred to as “the Senator”. At the
Mayþower Hotel in Washington, D.C. the portly gentleman was
brought to the room adjoining ours. Our closet space was Þlled with
photographic equipment viewing the Senator’s scene … I refused to
participate. I was severely punished.”

Just a word about the media, and then we will take a break. One of the
best payoffs of being a reporter for Þfteen years is that I have
come to see this machine called “the media” and how it operates in a way
that I never thought was possible because I have talked to a lot
of reporters, and they become the eyes, the mouth and the ears for
everybody else. Since I am now researching the Oklahoma City
bombing, and I have done a lot of research on AIDS, and now this and
other topics, there is a pattern that always seems to emerge. The
pattern is that there is a cover story that emerges very quickly after
something is either revealed or happens. Very quickly a cover story
comes to the fore and then anything that does not Þt the cover story is
discarded. In the case of Oklahoma City, it happens to be basically
that McVeigh and a few of his friends are rednecks … the rednecks are
connected to other rednecks who belong to militias and the
militias blew up the building and that’s it … we don’t w ant to know
anything else … they are all kind of crazy and stupid … that’s the end
of the story … they rented a Ryder truck knowing it could be traced …
they bought 5000 lbs. of ammonium nitrate knowing it could be
traced …(hey business is suddenly picking up … did you see that guy who
suddenly came in and bought 5000 lbs. of ammonium
nitrate??? Wow. I thought business was kind of slow and then all of a
sudden they came in like 15 or 20 cars and they like, loaded it up
in the backs of the station wagons and they kept coming back for more
and they took it away … I guess April is a really good planting
month you know?? They have a lot of crops in mind …) That’s the cover,
right? They were that stupid, and that’s all we have to know. And
McVeigh, three hours after the explosion, happens to be driving in a car
with no licence, and a cop stops him and says “I will have to cite
you for driving without a licence and you will have to appear …” McVeigh
says “No problem”, t hen the cop looks at him and he is
writing out the citation, he’s going to give it to him, and let him
drive away. No problem, Driving without a licence. So what? Then the cop
says, “Sir, do you have something under your windbreaker there?” And
McVeigh says, “I have a weapon under my windbreaker.” Pulls
down the zipper, there’s a 9mm Glock, and a Þve inch knife hanging off
his belt. He has just killed 100 people … he’s on a lonely road
some place … a cop stops him … he’s going to let him go … he then shows
the cop his weapon … the cop then puts his service revolver to
his head, disarms him, takes him to jail, puts him on ice for a few days
until the Feds … they work fast these guys … three days and they
know who did it, they know what happened, they come to the jail where he
is, and they take him … Right? By the way, I was told that
initial reports placed McVeigh at Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma.
People who anonymously testiÞed in here, and it has been
mentioned by other people, that some of the mind control that was done
on them was done at Tinker Air Force Base. Tinkerbell, right?

So this is the scenario that is painted by the press, see? Talk about
mind control here … now the reporters that I talked to … how they slip
and slide with this … once the cover story is established … how they
manage to keep from discovering anything, or thinking about
anything … or just considering the insanity of the cover story itself,
is really something to behold. And I have been talking to a bunch of
reporters down in Oklahoma City now … I just listen and we talk and it
is all very chatty and everything … and for example one guy who
was with the only daily in Oklahoma (The Daily Oklahoman) … all he could
talk about was the federal boys … the federal boys combing
through the wreckage of the building … the federal boys were there and
they did this and they told me and they said this … and it was
kind of like, when a sportswriter covers the Yankees … the Slugger told
me this, and he told me he threw the curve ball and he holds it
this way … had a beer with Mickey … you know, that kind of stuff … “the
federal boys told me” that they couldn’t Þnd any other kind of
bomb in the building at all … that’s it … what else is there to know …
the federal boys day after day were going through the wreckage and
they told him they couldn’t Þnd anything … this guy would have talked
for three hours like this if I had let him … and that’s how he keeps
himself from Þguring out what’s going on and each reporter has his own
little scene.

In the case of this one here, of course, now Valerie Wolf and one of her
clients, they say “look we are not sure we really want to get this
exposed all the way out because we know that the False Memory Syndrome
Foundation right now has a stranglehold on the press.”
That’s the cover story. Nobody cares that the FMSF board is composed of
these guys with CIA, mind control connections … That’s the
cover story that’s laid down, and so everything else is irrelevant.
That’s what we have to bust — is that cover story — with enough people
coming forward and saying, “it’s not true”.

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