.............................................................. >From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Ian Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Waco: Dead Expert's Report Date: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 4:58 AM The following is a summary of Carols Ghigliotti's preliminary report on the 1993 Waco FLIR. Carlos sent this report to the Congressional Committee on March 18. It is believed that he died sometime between March 30 and April 19. This is probably why: =================================================== http://www.NewsMax.com/articles/?a=2000/4/30/160306 =================================================== Report to Congress on Infra-red Footage at Waco NewsMax.com The following is a summary of conclusions reached by Carlos Ghigliotti, an infra-red film expert. Mr. Ghigliotti completed this report as a consultant to the Congress. He determined federal officials had, in fact, fired into the Koresh compound. Summary of the most important events that occurred on April 19, 1993 A complete analysis of the FLIR videotape (#3) taken between 10:41:57 and 12:16:13 was made using the equipment listed in volume 1. An electronic grid was placed on the videotape and divided into 4 quadrants. The top left section is quadrant 1 or (Q1). The top right section is quadrant 2 or (Q2). The bottom left section is quadrant 3 or (Q3) and the bottom right section is quadrant 4 or (Q4). A videotape was recorded with this grid pattern and provided. At 11:16:27 the tank or CEV (combat engineering vehicle) first appears. At 11:18:40-Q1 the tank starts to demolish the rear wall of the gym. This continues on until 12:09:02-Q3 when the tank leaves the rear area of the gym. There were a total of 19 instances that the tank penetrated the gym. At 11:23:02-Q3 & Q4 the tank has penetrated the gym for the 6th time. At 11:23:23 the tank is completely inside the gym. At 11:24:17-Q2 two unknown subjects appear from underneath the tank. Between 11:24:30:16-Q2 and 11:24:36-Q1 the unknown subjects shoot into the hole made by the tank in the gym wall. Between 11:24:50-Q4 and 11:25:04 there is a response in the form of gunfire from the inside of the gym directed at the 2 unknown subjects. At 11:26:04-Q2 the tank breaks through the front wall of the gym. Between 11:26:13-Q1 and 11:26:27-Q1 additional gunfire comes out of the gym directed at the 2 unknown subjects. This gunfire has pinned down the 2 unknown subjects on the ground. At 11:26:26-Q1 the tank backs over the 2 unknown subjects. The approximate height of the tank is 20 inches and 6 feet in width between the tracks. At 11:26:39-Q4 one of the 2 unknown subjects is clearly visible exiting out the hole in the front wall of the gym the tank previously made. The unknown subject turns to the right into the courtyard. Between 11:28:04-Q1 and 11:28:14:04-Q4 there is gunfire emitting from the position the unknown subject was seen at 11:26:39-Q4 (the courtyard) the direction of this gunfire is into the structure. Between 11:28:18-Q4 and 11:28:22-Q4 there is a response of gunfire coming out of the structure. Between 11:30:09-Q4 and 11:30:15-Q4 there is gunfire from the same area in the courtyard directed into the structure. At 11:33:51-Q4 there is gunfire between the gym wall and the swimming pool. The direction of this gunfire is into the structure (possibly unknown subject #2) since the infrared signature from this weapon is different from the rounds fired in the courtyard. At 11:34:32-Q4 there is one gunshot directed at the unknown subject on 11:34:33-Q3 that is running and hiding between the gym and the swimming pool. Between 11:34:33-Q3 and 11:34:34-Q3 unknown subject is being shot at. Between 11:34:45-Q4 and 11:38:31-Q3 there is gunfire coming out of the structure. Between 11:38:34-Q3 and 11:38:36-Q3 an unknown subject is seen hiding in front of the tank. At 11:43:34-Q4 is the 3rd time the tank enters the front middle section of the structure. This is the side facing the cameras from the media. The tank enters the front part of the structure on numerous occasions and is fired upon every time it enters the structure. Between 11:43:36-Q4 and 11:59:03-Q3 there is gunfire from the second floor front side directed at the tank. At 12:03:59-Q2 unknown subject appears next to the tank in the rear of the structure. At 12:05:17-Q2 1st time the tank inserts the boom into the corner of the front tower. At 12:07:42-Q4 the fire is now visible in the infrared spectrum coming out from the window of the second story tower. At 12:08:12-Q4 unknown subject comes out of the tank and shows up at 12:08:51-Q3 shooting at the other unknown subject that appears at 12:08:34-Q4. Between 12:08:31-Q4 and 12:08:32-Q3 a cluster of thermal anomalies appear at the corner of the gym. Between 12:08:34-Q4 and 12:08:44-Q4 unknown subject runs from the area where the thermal anomalies are. The subject hops over the rubble and hides in the gym. Between 12:08:51-Q3 and 12:08:52-Q3 there is automatic gunfire into the area where the unknown subject at 12:08:44-Q4 was hiding. 12:09:02-Q3 rear tank leaves the area. Between 12:10:41-Q3 and 12:11:15-Q1 numerous rounds of gunfire are shot from the center of the courtyard and all are directed into the structure. No additional events of importance are viewable due to the fire overloading the detector on the FLIR. CONCLUSIONS: No additional gunfire is detectable on the videotape because the infrared detector on the FLIR overloaded with the infrared energy emitted by the fire. The gunfire did continue on. There is visible video evidence taken by the media to support this and there is gunfire recorded on the audio track of the aerial FLIR tape #4 taken by the same aircraft. Total number of gunfire shots coming out of the structure 69 Total number of gunfire shots going into the structure* 57 Total number of flash devices 1 cluster SUB TOTAL 127 Total number of times the tanks penetrated into the structure** 33 Total number of times the tanks penetrated thru the structure 1 TOTAL NUMBER OF EVENTS 161 � *THERE ARE 3 THERMAL FLASHES WHERE THE WEAPON USED, HAD A POSSIBLE FLASH SUPPRESSOR DEVICE INSTALLED, THEY OCCURRED AT 11:24:31:28, 11:24:35:10 AND 11:28:14:13. THEREFORE THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS THAT MORE THAN ONE ROUND OF AMMUNITION WAS FIRED DURING EACH OF THE 3 EVENTS. ALTHOUGH ONLY ONE ROUND OF AMMUNITION WAS USED AS THE AMOUNT FIRED FOR THIS LIST. � **AFTER REVIEWING THE VIDEOTAPE NUMEROUS TIMES. THE FOLLOWING PATTERN APPEARED, WITH ONLY A FEW EXCEPTIONS. THE BRANCH DAVIDIANS SHOT AT THE TANKS, ONLY AFTER THE TANKS PENETRATED THE STRUCTURE. TOTAL NUMBER OF TIMES, UNKNOWN SUBJECTS APPEAR ON THE FLIR VIDEOTAPE. 7 TOTAL NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT OCCURRED BETWEEN 10:41:57 AND 12:16:13 (FLIR TAPE #3) 198 =================================================== -- NEWSMAX.COM -- =================================================== http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/4/30/160306 =================================================== ============================================================ If the axiom "power corrupts" is a reliable axiom, then the Official Story must be suspect on its face. ------------------------------------------------------------ GODDARD'S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm ____________________________________________________________ Asking the "wrong questions," challenging the Official Story Shop for Cars On-Line: http://a-albionic.com/ads/srch.html Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *********************************** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. 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