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>And we

>don't know what else it is or isn't, either."
>
>
>You say this all the time about everything.


And I'm almost always right.
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>
>
>Post referred to - "the take off and landing weights of his planes

>suddenly did not correspond anymore with the amount of fuel used, meaning

>that something besides fuel was lost during those flights."


Did you you personally weigh the plane? Neither did I. I'm willing to
believe that some guy said the weights were different. I'm not willing to
believe the weights were different without corroboration.
>
>
>
> are the commercial planes

>spraying something we don't know about?
>
>
>YES THEY ARE. WE DO KNOW .


How do you know, because somebody told you? Or did you personally observe
it happening and scientifically eliminate all other explanations for what
you saw?

Let me tell you what I know. Twice I have seen weird cross hatch contrail
patterns over my city. We have three major airports here. Commercial
airliners cross the sky here constantly. It is not at all unusual for me
to see airliners overhead. Sometimes they leave contrails, usually they do
not. It depends on atmospheric conditions. When they do leave contrails
the contrails are always at pretty much the same altitude. There are
seldom more than one to three at a time and while the are occasionally do
cross each other they never form a dense cross hatch pattern at lower
altitude like the two cross hatch patterns I reported. This has led me to
believe that it highly unlikely that the weird crosshatch patterns I saw
had anything whatsoever, natural or otherwise, to do with commercial
airliners. That's what I know.

I didn't see the planes that produced the weird cross hatch patterns.
Though I consider it unlikely, it is entirely conceivable that the planes
resemble commercial airliners. They may even be the same makes and models,
though I doubt it highly. That, however, does not make them commercial
airliners. Commercial airliners do not behave that way. Commercial
airliners never fly relatively low over the city in a cross hatch pattern,
ever. Such totally anomalous behavior would surely have drawn great
attention. We see commercial airliners all the time. The always behave the
same way. They climb and  they leave the area in a relatively straight
line or they descend and then land. They never fly cross-hatches low over
the city. They tend to not fly directly over the city at all because
that's not where the airports are.

This whole thing puts me in mind of the whole unmarked black helicopter
flap. I've heard about them. I've seen picture of what has been reputed to
be unmarked black helicopters. These are not good enough reasons for me to
believe people are flying unmarked black helicopters. So I studiously
avoided telling people that unmarked black helicopters were flying in our
skies. I did however tell people about the reports and the pictures,
neither of which amounted to my being able to truthfully say that unmarked
black helicopters fly in our skies. They could just as likely be accounted
for by lies and by Photoshop.

However, I personally have twice seen unmarked black helicopters with my
own eyes. The first time I was out in the country in Northern California.
I saw two unmarked black helicopters circling a remote farm house at
extremely low altitude. Since it was a Saturday, I guessed that they were
police marijuana raiders who were making a little money on their day off
by taping over their tail numbers, removing their badges and stealing
marijuana for themselves. This happens fairly often around here. I figured
it was a very good time for me to be somewhere else and I prudently left
the area immediately.

The second time I saw unmarked black helicopters, three were flying very
low over the SOMA district of San Francisco. I had just dropped my SO off
at work. I was riding home. I looked up and there they were. I have know
idea what they were doing. All I know was they were black and they had no
markings.

So yeah, unmarked black helicopters fly in the skies around here. People
tell me they are the advance scouts of the New World Order's UN  strike
force. Personally, I think that's a patent absurdity. Other people tell me
there are no such things as unmarked black helicopters. They are dead
wrong and I know it for a fact because I personally have seen seen
unmarked black helicopters with my own eyes. I don't know what they were
or what they were doing. All I know for sure is that they were black and
they had no markings. I've also been told, though I haven't looked it up
myself, that flying without markings is a crime. So, I hear, is flying 150
feet over SOMA. That's all I know.

Likewise, I have twice seen with my own eyes weird cross hatch contrail
like formations at relatively low altitude over my city. I don't know what
they are and don't say that I do. Maybe they are chemicals. Maybe they are
biologicals. Maybe even they are vaccines. Maybe they are harmless theater
smoke which, when accompanied by a massive disinformation campaign is
intended to effect our beliefs and behavior somehow. I just don't know for
sure. And neither do you. Neither, I suspect, do most of the people we
tell us they do.

But somebody knows. And we would do well to find out.

>
>Who are you telling to buy a @#$% dictionary?


I'm telling you to stop repeating hearsay as fact. It's hinders science
and gets in our way. I also suggest that you are far to gullible and
trusting to be consider as a reliable source of analysis. Your critical
reasoning ability needs a lot of work. Please, learn how to tell a fact
from a rumor.

As a source of data you could conceivably be superb. You have the drive.
You have the time. What you lack is rigorous scientific method. Until you
develop some I recommend that you be taken with a large grain of salt. If
you tell us that somebody told you they know what these things are, I'm
willing to believe you. Yeah, probably somebody did tell you that. But
when you tell us that means that you know what these things are i do not
believe you because it is not true. hearing something is true and knowing
something is true are different things. Everyone on this list, everyone in
the world, would do very well to learn how to tell the difference.

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