Why take anyone's word for what someone else believes when you can read their works 
for yourself.  In my reading of Vallee he has stated that informants in the French 
military admit to engineering at least one abduction for the purposes of studying 
psychological phenomena and religious manifestation in light of it (certainly implying 
that a religious connection was seen by them as well), and in that case someone 
peripheral to the case DID start a religion based on the "teachings" of the "aliens", 
who were French military men all along.  I believe he has also stated that the 
Rendlesham Forest encounter was staged to determine military personnel's reaction to a 
supposed alien encounter.  At least TWO totally fake and bogus encounters.
I also believe that his take on the UFO phenomenon itself is that it is a control 
program, something like a cybernetic psychological enhancer, in order to mold or shape 
cultural thought, or social behavior.  I have not heard him speculate further as to 
it's extraterrestrial nature, but could be in error there.
Needless to say, don't take my word for it read his works for yourself and come to 
your own conclusions.  Since no one has any real evidence, at least any they are 
bringing forward for consideration, then his word is as good as anyone elses.
Food for thought, the idea of a "Cosmic Top Secret" clearance in respect to people 
having some connection to UFO phenomenon in the US Military was always treated as 
ludicrous by many, including me.  I have recently met a man who was in the military 
and who claims to have had that clearance level when working as a security guard at 
Wright Patterson AFB.  I believe that this person is telling the truth, and he has 
stated that there were "UFO'S" at the base.  I believe him when he says it.  There was 
another man who worked for NATO in Europe who said he had the clearance as well, and 
he claimed to have seen documents about UFO retrievals and such.  Don't know him so 
can't speak for his reliability or not.  BUT, here is my point.  I have talked to 
military people who say there is no such classification and to people who worked at 
Wright Pat. and who say there were no aliens or UFO's there, and I am inclined to 
believe them TOO.  Now, this lends itself to one possible conclusion in my mind and 
that is that the security clearance was given to some people for the purpose of later 
denying it in order to discredit anything they had to say about what they saw or 
worked on.  I believe these people possibly saw advanced terrestrial craft, or 
captured enemy aircraft and they were told it was alien so that if they talked the Air 
Force could then say they were cuckoo, in order to keep it all secret.  These people 
were used, just like the person abducted by the French military and the people at 
Rendlesham Forest.  BUT, that is just my interpretation and you can take it or leave 
it.


On Sat, 03 June 2000, Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:

>
> From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   It is perfectly appropriate for someone to bring their qualifications and
> > experience to the table during a discussion.  June and Mr. Webre interpret
> > Vallee differently.  That Mr. Webre knew him and worked with him adds weight
> > to his interpretation.
>
> Mr. Webre CLAIMS to have known and 'worked' with Jacques Vallee.
>
> I don't hear Monsieur Vallee weighing in here with his agreement.
>
> I'd like Mr. Webre to tell us which of Monsieur Vallee' books we should look
> in to find Monsieur Vallee acknowledging Mr. Webre's vast contributions.
>
> I suggest everyone read Jaques Vallee's books for themselves, especially
> "Messengers of Deception", and come to their OWN conclusions as to what
> Monsieur Vallee's conclusions are...
>
>
> June
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