Click Here: <A HREF="http://www.wine-storage.com/dominica.html">All the Notes on My Investigation part 2</A> ----- A little note before we start. I learned with God all things are possible. I also learned with God you can forgive. Finally from God, I learned that truth shall be my sword and gentleness and patience shall be my armour. (What you are about to read are my findings of the secret NON USA Echelon base on Dominica: Why it was set up by the Cabal; and finally, why my investigation was performed is based on two questions: why, when my sister, Joan Lodato, was murdered no one did anything? ... Why was my small high tech company destroyed?)....For Part I see http://wine-storage.com/octopus.html Notes about Dominica and Murders In the Caribbean, is the tiny Island of Dominica, not the Dominican Republic. This small island nation was once a territory of England, and only recently was granted soverignity. The Question is: "Why a secret "private non USA" base in this country?" This tiny nature island has a small native population. It is located near the equator and between the two continents and is ideally and geographically positioned for satellite communications. Since it has its own soviergnity, it is very difficult for any law enforcement agencies to monitor and/or investigate. But the most important reason for this base is: There is the trememdous amount of geothermal energy. It has the only Boiling Lake in the world. To run a secret "non USA" Project Echelon base (see an earlier post: Sunday Nov 14,1999 on Project Echelon), it takes allot of energy...and this is an independent renewable energy resource that would attract minimial attention while in continual operation.This type of energy source has been built near an Indian Reseveration for a cost of only $25,000,000...and not used for farming, commerical, industrial or public use. Last year this has been confirmed by a reliable source from within Dominica the geothermal power plant exists. Also Danny Casolaro, when alive, through a Mr. Nichols in California was made aware of this source. He reported this observation in his notes. Casolaro was going to expose the connections between some unauthorized black projects involving Hughes, (an Octopus company), and the power Elite. He was given this information by a government employee and had hard evidence of who was the head of the Octopus Group..(see Bill Hamilton's post under the quoted above reported post) and shortly after his investigation he was killed. Dominica has off shore gambling, and off shore banking. You can become a citizen there for a fee of $50,000.00 and enjoy a tax haven. It is a very quite island inhabited mainly by native indians. In the CIA factbook it is listed as a place for farming, relatively quite, but used on the drug routes between the Americas. There is no mention of this geothermal power plant. Finally on this tiny quite island...one will find the nerve center, a secret base, for the information flow of the world...and a "NON USA" Private Project Echelon...being powered by this geothermal energy plant. Right after the Grenada Crisis, ties were established between the "Power Elite of the USA" and Dominica. This nation gained its independence in 1978. Dominica's Defense group is divided into two segments: the regular police between 500-700 individuals, and a Special Service Unit (SSU) of a few hundred personnel. The SSU was originally privately funded and entrusted with the National Security of Dominica. From time to time these two units have clashed. In the Late 1980's Dominica's Government passed the State Security Act giving the SSU "Broad Powers" supposedly for preserving National Security. The interesting part of the SSU, is that Mr. Nichols, an American, was the first head of the SSU and well connected with the Octopus Group. This is the same Mr. Nichols who gave Casolaro the information about the geothermal power plant in Dominica. As of this posting the SSU is alive and well in Dominica, and so is the power plant. Project Echelon is a multinational government venture between the USA, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. The purpose is to be able to gather ALL information and process it via using computers, satellites, and all telecommunication equipment. France has tried to build their own system, and CHINA has one now. We can understand the reason why countries desire such a system...to protect their soveignity. Danny Casolaro found out that Project ECHELON was going private, and that a listening post, an underground base, was set up on the tiny Island of Dominica. The builders of such a system included the "OCTOPUS COMPANIES" plus the power Elite of the world. (See an earlier post about the Octopus companies.) In the new millenium, it is the direction of control of information that will rule the world...this is accomplished by the "NEW" Private (non USA) Echelon Project, and one of the KEY locations exist on the Island of Dominica. This last bit of information cost him his life, and in an indirect manner it cost the lives of Dr. Moshe Lubin of Hampshire Instrument, and was instrumental in the murder of Joan LoDato, the brother of one of the principals of BBE. Danny Casolaro started on Inslaw. The last thing before his death, he was investigating the project on the Island of Dominica, and relating it to the Octopus companies, and some people in Colorado, California, and good old New York City -- the finanical district. Danny believed the leader lived in New York, and was a past Treasury Secretary. Vince, you are right about Echelon. The late Senator Church, head of the US Senate Intelligence Committee worried about its makers (the Octopus companies) taking it private. The Senator was right and so are you! We reported earlier of a secret base on the Island of Dominica, that is a NON USA GOVERNMENT facility. Some of the people who are aware of this base are the leaders of the octopus companies such as: Dr Armstrong the present ceo of AT&T, Louis Gerstner, the CEO of IBM, John Akers, a Partner in Lehmann Brothers. All three are members of the CFR and two are members of the Trilateral Commission. This base is a NWO secret information center (their Project Echelon) In New York City, the Head of the Octopus, that Danny Casolero discovered was Douglas Dillon, past Secretary of the US Treasury and past Ambassador to France ....he was intimiately related to the CFR, IMF, World Bank, knew the Warboug's quite well, and has a very long association with the Rockefeller Family, etc. Mr. Dillon was the tie between the USA "Power Elite" and the European "Power Elite". He knew about Project Echelon and the multinational relations between the respective countries. He was the major "finanical architect" for bringing this project "private." The late Senator Church, head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, warned the Congress about the potential of Echelon going private, and the effect on the National Security of the USA, namely the loss of constitutional rights. The plan is to control the information flow, introduce a global smart card for all, and control all the global finances via the privatization of Project Echelon by its builders, these multinational high technology corporations headed by the "Power Elite." In an earlier post the major Octopus companies are identified on the RMN board. Ask Raye, for more information about these companies. She can help you. In concluding, this is what lead Danny Casolaro all over the world from P2, to England, to all the major banks, etc, etc. He started this with Inslaw and uncovered this gigantic finanical global power plan. The NSA intercepted some messages that linked the Octopus companies and Mr. Dillon. A whistlerblower in the NSA who saw that the Constitution of the USA was, and still is, in grave danger by these so called protectors of the USA way of life gave Danny hard evidence of linking Dillon, the Octopus companies, and the secret Dominica base. The whistleblower feared that this information would be squelched by the small but effective Octopus cabal agents within certain areas of the NSA and this would not get into appropriate hands within the NSA. Hence his communications with Danny Casolaro was to insure that the US Congress had this hard evidence. Senator Byrd's staff was aware of this before Danny died. Octopus agents were dispersed and you know the rest. Finally Ambassador Dillon, I believe is still alive, lives in NYC, and in his 90's. IBM has sold and continues to sell supercomputers to the PRC that are linked with the PRC's bases throughout the world. Two such locations are the missile tracking and Echelon stations in Kiribati and Guinea. The island nation of Kiribati is composed of three groups; the Gilbert Islands, Line Islands and Phoenix Island. They received their independence from the UK in 1979. On the Gilbert Islands, the PRC has a tracking station for ICBM monitoring. This station is located near the equator and most likely acts as a listening post for the chinese Echelon project. IBM's super computer technology is critical for these stations. In the recent past the US Government awarded a hugh National Laboratory supercomputer technology contract to IBM, while at the same time IBM tired to destroy Cray Technology, an american company--the inventors of the supercomputer. Some of this technology was used in the super computers sold to the PRC by IBM. In West Africa in Guinea, formerly known as French Guinea, there is a very hea vy PRC chinese contingency at this young nation. In the comparison of this country with the island nation of Dominica there are striking similarities. (On Dominica there is/or was/ a secret "private" Echelon Project --see a much lower post in early Nov. 1999). It was confirmed by a source in the Washington DC area, that there is a PRC monitoring base for the guidance of ICBM and the Chinese Project Echelon. With these facts, IBM continues to sell the latest super computers to the PRC, just for the GREEN, and forgot about the Red, White and Blue. But IBM takes the GREEN from the Red, White and Blue. The lobbying efforts of IBM at NSA, the Congress, and in the White House through Podesta Associates is extraordinary.It is quite obvious that IBM must have made some deals to circumvent the sale of supercomputer technology to the PRC--even in light of these secret bases. Just to demonstrate the foolishness of IBM/NSA scenario. If the back door is there on these supercomputers, then the chinese can perform modifications whereby selected data that was spied upon will "returns spurious information".So Echelon can become "highly ineffective" in communicating information to the USA policy makers. Remember this information is transferred indirectly to the Congress and the Administration. If we go a step further, since the DoD is using this information for tactical and strategic planning it is devasting to the Security of the USA. If there are back doors then the effect Echelon coupled with the IBM's supercomputer sales is the best offensive weapon system the PRC possesses against the USA. The chinese understand IBM great need to sell; IBM has a hold via lobbying on NSA; and NSA's Echelon is an integral part of our intelligence community; therefore the chinese penetrated the inner secrets of the USA via this avenue. If this is in the Cox report then it should be PUBLIC and an open debate occur in the Congress. This will aid immensely for world security. However if IBM/NSA has no back door on these supercomputers, and since these supercomputers are used directly against the USA, then at present, and for the time being, all supercomputer of this type (IBM's RS6000 series etc) should be banned for sale to the PRC. We can sell the chinese many many other commodities, develop a great relationship with them, and over some time possibly change---but not now. Echelon, Casolaro & "Murder" Posted By: vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, 16 January 2000, at 12:56 p.m. The death of Danny Casolaro can easily be solved. According to Danny Casolero's notes, the information he received from a former NSA employee, and a Robert Booth Nicholls of LA California is that Project Echelon went private and had a secret base on the island of Dominica with a $25,000,000 geothermal power plant to power this complex--see a lower post on RMN. If this is true, then the reason for his murder stems from the NSA/octopus companies--IBM, ATT, LOR, Gm H, LMT and LEH (see another Post below). These facts can easily be checked out and leave no room for the simplest conjecture. Either it is, or it isn't about the secret non USA Echelon base on the Island of Dominica. If it is, then the Douglas Dillon connection is very real; and the Congress should immediately start an "OPEN" investigation and let all the cards fall publically. If this information is ignored by any Agency, then their is fear of retaliation from this Octopus group that also killed Moshe Lubin and Joan LoDato. (See the lower posts on Hampshire Instruments and BBE respectively on RMN.) Messages in This Thread Echelon, Casolaro & "Murder" (views: 181) vince -- Sunday, 16 January 2000, at 12:56 p.m. NSA employee killed--Standorf (views: 156) vince -- Sunday, 16 January 2000, at 3:07 p.m. Re: NSA employee killed--Standorf (views: 47) STARDUSTER -- Wednesday, 19 January 2000, at 6:51 p.m. Re: NSA employee killed--Standorf (views: 48) RMNews Agent 003 -- Wednesday, 19 January 2000, at 11:30 p.m. Re: NSA employee killed--Standorf (views: 122) Don -- Sunday, 16 January 2000, at 7:43 p.m The Octopus companies use the Echelon Project by data mining and collecting economic information about their competitors large or small. As an example Rayethon and SCR-Thompson were both bidding on a contract from Brazil. ATT with the help of Echelon intercepted some information concerning the SCR-Thompson communication with Brazil's government. Based on this information Rayethon had the competive edge and it won the contract with the help of Echelon. Remember the four companies IBM, ATT, LOR, and LMT are major contractors for NSA. If you doubt this just write the NSA under the FOIA and ask.NSA is a great agency provided it works within it charter; but the tapping of information by these companies is an outright scandal and illegal. Recently on the message board the Octopus Group was mentioned. The goal of this group is to control the transport of information for the next century. By so doing, this group will be the most powerful group in the world. Lehmann Bro will be their investment banker...IBM will make the key chips and computers for the information age...AT&T will be the leading communications company-- fiber optics etc....Loral will be the leading satellite company in the world...Lockheed- Martin will be the leading defense contractor and control the information technology for global defense...General Motors through its electronic subs and its sheer size is the sixth company....in a previous communication there net assets, sales and profits were reported. There combined assets are over $0.5trillion dollars...with profits of $21B/yr (in 1997). These six companies overtly control the US government. Consider the following facts: LMT is the largest federal contractor. GM is the fourth largest federal contractor. ATT is the 20 th largest contractor. IBM is 44 th largest contractor. However for Information Technology for US Government contracts their ranking are LMT (1); GM..(3); ATT...(4); IBM...(18) Collectively these four companies control information technology for the US government. This means the CIA, NSA, FBI, DOJ, etc are at their mercy and they are at present. Loral is a company incorporated in Bermuda with questionable ties and holds sensitive electronic communication technology relating NSA etc. THE INSLAW CASE-- Danny Casolaro tied these six companies to organized crime either the Gambino or Genevese crime family where their monies and God know who else monies, probably drug money was funneled into these companies....the yukuza had ties with Lockheed well documented, and the IBM company has been in Japan for nearly 50 years...also check out..... each of these companies has had their stocks have swings over 100% in the last three years.....the ONLY WAY THESE STOCKS can double and triple in sales is-- if they control the INFORMATION AGE.... Concluding on the Octopus companies and repeating some of the above: Consider LOR, it's on the NYSE. Check the company out. It is incorporated in Bermuda. Why is a $2 billion dollar American company that handles ultra secret projects incorporated in a foreign country? Back in the 1970, LOR had a big scandal and mob connections. Recently their is the problem of Bernie Schwartz, the CEO of LOR, and his contributions to the present Administration. LMT when it was just Lockheed back in the 1970's had ties with the Yakuza. I know this is old information, but it shows these companies will and have dealt with anyone. IBM corporation is a convicted felon as of last year. Yes felon, for selling supercomputers to Russia. I assure you if you tried to do such a thing you would be in jail and they would throw away the key. But IBM just got a $8.5M fine and all was hush hush. GmH and LOR just had a big investigation for selling missile technology to the chinese. So in conclusion I would not worry about the NSA per se, but I am very concerned of the misuse of Project Echelon by these octopus companies. This could only occur if there are some bad apples in NSA. This may be a hard pill for some to take, but years ago when I consulted for the GAO on certain projects I use to say, "I found out that motherhood was prostitution."Dominica is real. The private Project Echelon is real. These companies are real IBM, LOR, LMT and GmH. Finally the concerns of the late Senator Church is real. Who are watching the contractors of Project Echelon? Remember Casolero and Standorf tried to alert the Congress and it ended in their death via murder. Alan Standorf worked for the NSA/NRO. Through geographic pictures taken by satellites of the tiny island nation of Dominica the construction of the secret private echelon base may have been spotted. At first it may have been taken as a foreign base by some government say the chinese. But upon further investigation, Alan Standorf found it was the Octopus alliance of USA companies. As the hard information was collected, it had to be released first to the Congress, and then the Congress would release it to the public. This was based on the gravity and nature what was found. Danny Casolaro was chosen by Alan Standorf. Unfortunately, the boys had to stop them. and you know the rest...check lower posts In the NWO (or whatever you want to call this cabal), the Power Elite... the plan is the control of information. They realize if this could be accomplished they can rule the world and they really believe they know what's best for all of us. Since part of the plan are private control centers like in Dominica...which exits today, ...and men like Douglas Dillon who is passing on his powers to men like Louis Gerstner (IBM), Mike Armstrong (ATT), and John Akers (LEH) who are all members of the CFR. The latter three have their professional growth from IBM. The main plan calls for E- money, smart cards, bigger and faster supercomputers for the control and monitoring the "global" information flow, and super super chips in satellites needed for the private Echelon Project. This all spells the need for chips with design rules down to 0.2 to 0.05 microns, or simple put, ultra high density chips with billion and billions of more microelectronic components and finer interconnecting wires. This chip manufacturing process takes of the order of 800 to 1400 manufacturing steps and a host of tools. However there is one draw back--the "manufacturing type" lithography tool is not made. Also the light source needed for this tool requires wavelengths of light less than the feature size of the components..lets say for a wire 0.05 microns in width, one must use an x-ray light source with an alignment tool called a step and repeat tool. Hampshire Instrument was going to solve this problem and make a COST EFFECTIVE MANUFACTURING tool. Hampshire Instruments Hence Hampshire Instruments and Dr. Moshe Lubin (the founder) came on the scene in the 1980's. Lubin built the x-ray light source but used an old step and repeat tool. He was funded by Harvard University for $50,000,000, Venrock $25,000,000 (the venture capital group for the Rockefeller) and another $25,000,000 from a group in California, and finally with a $20,000,000 loan from NYS. Over a ten year period Lubin built several versions of this tool. In the final version of this tool he was promised more money from "The Boys". When he was just about done, they pulled his funding, bankrupt the company and allowed NYS to own the patents; all the Boys from IBM, ATT, NSA (that's John O'Hara group...Dr O'Hara was the number 2 man in NSA, their chief Scientist)...all effectively stole Lubins work. Lubin tried to bring back his company by getting other sources of funding. However before he could accomplish this, they found him dead. They say he hung himself in his basement. I have known Lubin for over 30 years, not as a friend but a colleague. He graduated from Cornell with a PHD, started the high energy laser lab at the University of Rochester, was one of the Rockefeller groups favorite young scientist etc...worked has a VP for them at an oil company...and then founded Hampshire Instruments...after much investigation I believe he did not hang himself but was murdered. Why was he murdered?? He was going to get funded outside the Group, this threaten their plans. This x-ray lithography tool was really going to go public. They would not control the tool. Hence the chip manufacturing process, hence the control of the information flow....and men like Dillon, Gerstner, Armstrong, O'Hara, etc etc etc would fail. and the global economy that they dreamed of controlling would not exist. So Lubin had to go. They were either directly or indirectly responsible for his murder. "The ends do not justify the means." The next company to come on the scene is my company Bizzy Bee Equipment (BBE)...we tried to pick up where Lubin left off... Bizzy Bee Equipment Corporation (BBE) BBE was a company that had the capabilities to make a step and repeat tool for these ultra high density chips. When Hampshire went under, BBE had the opportunity to purchase the patent portfolio of Hampshire. With BBE assets (see lower note) and Hampshire's patent, an american success story would have been told. But the Octopus via IBM had something more in store for BBE. Under the leadership of Gerstner and Akers, its present and past CEO, IBM destroyed the company. During Aker's tenure of CEO of IBM. IBM criminally violated the Lanan Act with a government contract that it was administering for a synchrotron stepper. It awarded the contract to SVGL--a company that it partially owned at the time. Also IBM refused to accept the BBE proposal for bid---Federal law say you can not sole source a contract over $20,000,000. BBE ask for "no special options" or considerations but just wanted to submit its bid for $7,000,000. Mr Jamba of IBM said the company would not accept the PROPOSAL even though BBE want give them their proposal. Hence IBM violated the Lana act...The eminent NYS jurist Araon Klein was involved in all these proceeding with IBM and DARPA....and concluded...this situation stinks. BBE did not have the monies to pursue further legal action. So it bit the bullet and went on for private funds. By the way if IBM took BBE's contract and just informed BBE that it was not the winner, they would have been "within the law". A Simple Task! However a trail would have been left....and they very well knew that could not forefill the making of a manufacturing X-RAY PROXIMITY stepper with a 40 wafer throughput for the $20,000,000 Naval Systems Contract. If they (IBM) accepted the BBE proposal, then IBM knew BBE would be on record, and if they (IBM) failed (and they did--two years later), then BBE could question IBM's decision (as prime Government contract) to give this contract to SVGL- a company that failed to produce one in the past and a company that IBM had partial ownership. So the IBM management refused in"writing" to take BBE's Proposal, knowing that they were breaking the law, and BBE was legally helpless. (It was like taking candy from a baby.) BBE was excluded from biding--since it was an INSIDE CONTRACT. (There were only four other companies that bid on the contract and BBE was to be the fifth.) The Next IBM Incident Against BBE After some time, BBE tried to acquire the intellectual property of Hampshire Instruments. Now under the leadership of a new CEO of IBM, Louis Gerstner, IBM directly tried to stop the sale of Hampshire Instrument's intellectual property to BBE. Hampshire went bankrupt and BBE had means and NYS agreed to sell this property to BBE . IBM heard that BBE wanted to buy this intellectual property. It (IBM) lobbied the NYS government and when NYS refused to honor their contract for the sale of Hampshire's patents to BBE. which we repeat occurred because of IBM's lobbying pressure on the Government of NYS a new IBM strategy came into being. A plan to destroy BBE was devised via the falsification of the sale of the Hampshire documents: First Vince Lodato was offered a bribe to stop pursuing the Hampshire patents via $1,500,000 (for six months consulting job to set up a chip plant in China.) When he refused the bribe and informed US government officials. This "legal bribe" was offered by the SAME group that fa lsified the documents for the sale of Hampshire Instruments...again, State and Federal officials were aware of all these actions. Since the patents of Hampshire Instruments were owned by the State of New York because they, Hampshire Inc, owed the State several million dollars via loans (the State owned the 50 or so patents based on Hampshire's bankruptcy). A Note What BBE Possessed .....and More On the "Legal Bribe" When Mario Cuomo was Governor of NY, BBE had an option to purchase the remained of the intellectual property of Hampshire Instruments. BBE had contracts to buy the patents from the State of NY and the State would have benefited handsomely..the State abruptly changed their tune...Even when BBE had a $3.4M bond issue from Ulster County in NYS, an option on a unique facility to build the stepper, and the best group of scientists and engineers in the world for the success of this project...and THE REAL POTENTIAL OF JOBS FOR THE HUDSON VALLEY-- DURING THIS TIME AND IN THIS AREA, IBM CLOSED ITS KINGSTON PLANT AND LAID OFF OVER 6000 EMPLOYEES No one wanted Lubin's patents (and to this day they are gathering dust)...No company wanted to buy them they said they were useless... IBM did not want to buy them or any of the other major companies...(how would it look if they did buy them --after Lubin's death???)...so BBE was to only taker, but the State refused to give BBE an option on the patents even after they first agreed to sell them to BBE. Several New York State elected officials said that the State was pressured by IBM to stop the sale. Nevertheless BBE persisted in its quest. During this time, a group from the Midwest, forged documents for the sale of the patents... (the VP of the Economic Development Corporation of NYS signature - Mr Garry Ryan), thus falsifying the sale of the patents. When BBE found out about the spurious sale, Vince Lodato contacted the FBI , and Mr Greg Hautau, a young FBI agent was given all the documents including a copy of the falsified documents that were faxed to BBE by a third party. Vince Lodato was interviewed by the FBI provided them with hard evidence. Congressman Hinchey and State officials were also alerted Bob Deterick, a VP of BBE and others in BBE. The groups that were alerted included: NY State Senator, Mr William Larkin , the criminal division of the NYS Attorney office, plus the chief attorney for the Economic Development group for NYS-Ms Larmont. When the FBI completed their investigation, and according to the FBI, the DOJ refused to prosecute..even the young FBI agent was perplexed.They had them with hard documentary evidence, and $40,000 money change for these forged documents...no one did anything in law enforcement... .WHY????.... WHY????.....WHY????... Even Governor Pataki's Office was aware of these deeds and had the evidence...nothing done! .WHY????.... WHY????.....WHY????... When this occurred, "a signal was sent out" that BBE was up for grabs,.. and anything could happen to it and no one would do anything....so Vince Lodato's home was arsoned, lotted, and my sister murdered. Also in our last communication (received on Good Friday and before the arsoning - that occured in late spring) , the NY State's Department of Economic Development informed BBE via Ms Anita Larmont that Mr. Charles Gargano, the Economic Czar for NYS, basically informed Vince LoDato & BBE that they were not welcomed in NYS..and should possible consider moving from NYS. (Considering the fact that Vince Lodato is a born New Yorker, Gargano's threats were ignored.) After receiving the letter WE CONTINUED TO REQUEST HELP (VIA communicating in members of the State Senate of NYS)....however to no avail. IBM through Louis Gerstner has a tremendous hold on the NYS government, and IBM was the corporation that influenced the State to stop the sale of the Hampshire patents to BBE For no logical and good reasons. You, the reader, knows the ending ...arsoning, looting, murder and no one did anything. This is not national security but selfish security coupled with greed and arrogance of the few and powerful---Gerstner, Akers (IBMERS) and O'Hara (NSA). Repeating and Concluding their Final Deeds When they didn't succeed, IBM through the Wachenhut Corporation hired "contractors" and Vince LoDato, one of the founders of BBE, home was arsoned and his sister killed in the fire. This key principal of BBE had all monies tied up in the BBE fight with IBM. Consequently he had no insurance on this home (during this temporary period); and didn't expect arson to occur; but it occurred, the house was also looted, BBE documents stolen, and BBE destroyed. IBM bought their way out of this one too, just like the hanging (murder in Argentina) with Bank Nacion. When the local police ask Vince, who he thought did this ...The only one that came to his mind was IBM....and even to this all evidence points to IBM and its leaders. The reason for IBM's actions is based on the fact, that they desperately need to control this technology--the x-ray lithography tool manufacturing. These are the printing presses for E-money and being transferred to China. In fact Gerstner transferred some of this technology to China. What deals did he make? We know that Armstrong, a past IBMer, sold out America to China (the missile crisis) when he was CEO of Hughes now CEO of AT&T. Note on IBM's ceo The old guard is changing and the new ones are arriving. No matter what one has to say about faction one, the old leaders had "some class" but the new ones well....they're brutal. Consider Louis Gerstner, the CEO of IBM for seven or so years: During his tenure the following events occurred. (1) IBM was criminally convicted of selling super computers to the Russians for atomic weapon research. IBM received only a $8.5M fine and it was in the news for only one day. (2) IBM sold one the largest supercomputer in the world to China via Hong Kong. It is reported to be used in the chinese Eschelon project. (3) IBM was caught in bribing and payoffs in a $250M contract with Banco Nacio in Argentina. The trail lead back to IBM Corporate in NY. IBM had a similar incidence in Mexico. IBM bought their way out of it via the political influence and money. Gerstner hired Podesta Associates. The owner of this firm has a brother who is chief of staff to President Clinton. Consequently Gerstner has an in the the White House. (4) When Companies and individuals get in the way of their plan...they die!!!...Judge Bagnasco witness in Argentina. Other examples the murder of Joan LoDato in Kingston NY. (5) Under Gerstner leadership IBM set up an Institute to tell governments how to act in the Information Age. Gerstner is a member of the Tri Lateral Commission, the CFR...and a voice in the Bilderbergers. (6) Under Gerstner leadership, tens of thousands of americans lost their jobs at IBM. These same jobs were and are being transferred to IBM China and IBM India. (7) Gerstner has a modest salary of only a few million a year. However over his tenure he made over one billion dollars from his stock options.... A poor boy who became rich...and sold his soul and lack of concern for the USA for money...This is an example of the new NWO leaders. Concluding Yes the Casolaro Octopus is well; so is IBM its key company. Gerstner made one billion dollars in stock options over a period of six or so years and some murders too. 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