Firstly why do whites stay even though we have legislation that is anti white, ant white crime is increasing, the government blames you for everything, when The HIV level is about 20% of the sexualy active, when they want remove any trace of the whites in terms of town names, where the music is stopping orchestral music and ballet groups are being banned as eurocentric. Where they are importing the most crazy of american legislature and PC runs amok. Ironically because most of the whites are africans. Not that they love blacks, which most whites don't, but there is more respect and courtesy than I saw in the US. Johannesburg has the climate of the mythical land of camelot and the african sun brings light to even the most grey of days. Yet there is a fear that fill the people. the fear of african failure, of black racism, of that night of darkness that no one dare murmur. But Is there any place for a blue eyed african? And the blacks- they also fear african failure, tribal conflict , the horde of immigrants from Africa bringing drugs and more crime. they can earn more money inthe USA.....better to be called a victim in the USA than help in Africa. John -----Original Message----- From: Bill Richer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, July 27, 2000 4:25 AM Subject: [CTRL] Just As Many Blacks Want To Leave South Africa As Whites WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Just As Many Blacks Want To Leave South Africa As Whites Foreign Affairs News Source: London Times Published: 11/99 Posted on 07/26/2000 12:54:08 PDT by TrueGood South Africa's disenchanted professional and managerial classes are among those who are queueing up to leave the country South Africa's brain-drain turns from trickle to torrent Five years after the dawn of majority democracy and the end of international pariah status, South Africa's reservoir of skilled people is still oozing out of the country. But the so-called brain-drain or "chicken run", widely believed to have run its course, now appears to have shifted suddenly from a trickle to a torrent. The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh will open the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Durban tomorrow at a time when more people are leaving South Africa than at any time since the run-up to the first all-race elections in 1994, when "white panic" or "white flight" was thought to be at its apogee. Moreover, those who are leaving are being drawn predominantly from key sectors of the economy such as information technology, which South Africa desperately needs to retain. Even more troubling for the African National Congress Government is that the number of highly skilled immigrants, who once compensated for the loss of the country's home-grown talent, has virtually collapsed. And, as if to add insult to injury, a small but significant number of the emerging black professional class has now joined the queue to get out. Official statistics show that 82,811 people left South Africa between 1989-97. As some 20 per cent of white South Africans travel on a British passport, many of them simply slipped out of the country without officially declaring that they were leaving. Government number-crunchers were always aware that these figures underestimated the real scale of the problem. But nobody knew by how much. Newspaper headlines have been talking of "a new white exodus" for some time. Anecdotal evidence suggested that the brain-drain was not only bigger, but much bigger than anyone had realised. One white South African estimated that 90 per cent of the people he was at school with during the 1980s had gone. Hilliard Kassel, an emigration lawyer for 16 years, has been laughing all the way to the bank. With a burgeoning client list, he scoffed at the idea that the brain-drain was tailing off. "There is still a net outflow of skills, and it has increased since 1994," he said. "Information technology people are in the forefront. They are mostly white, but there are Asians, coloureds and black people as well." The exodus of skilled information technology personnel, known as the "Great Information Technology Trek," has hit all sectors of the economy. Countless Y2K project managers have been lured abroad, inflating the salaries of those who remain and exacerbating existing inequalities. A study carried out by Trade and Industry Monitor, an independent research unit at Cape Town University, last month confirmed the growing suspicions of a new brain-drain. It showed that not only had the Government underestimated the scale of emigration but its figures were way off beam. Data supplied by the American, British, Canadian, Australian and New Zealand immigration services showed that 233,609 South Africans had moved to those countries between 1989-97 - almost three times the official figure. John-Baptist Meyer, one of the authors of the study, says: "We were not completely surprised. It was well known that South Africa underestimated the extent of emigration. What was not known was the magnitude." Emigration is now a serious problem, he said. "It's serious in terms of the volume of people, and in terms of their calibre," he added. The report demonstrated that young, educated South Africans were one of the least likely group in the world to remain in their country of origin. "A significant brain-drain is under way," the report said. "Post 1994, the annual emigration of professionals was 56 per cent higher than for 1989-94. It is likely that between one eighth and one fifth of South Africans with tertiary education now reside abroad," it added. Evaluating the cost of this outflow to the economy is one of South Africa's main preoccupations. One study suggested that between 1994-98, emigration had cost the government R8.4 billion (�850 million) in lost income tax, and 285 billion rand in lost contributions to gross domestic product. With immigration running at one sixth of 1980 levels, these costs are no longer offset by the economic contribution of new immigrants. Adding a new twist to an alarming picture, a survey of South Africa's racial groupings, published by the Human Sciences Research Council, exploded the myth that only whites wanted out. The survey showed that the number of people who would leave the country if they had the chance was more or less evenly spread across the races. "It's just that more whites have the opportunity," it added. When Nelson Mandela lambasted the migratory flood in September last year as "cowardly", he did so against the unspoken backdrop of Africa's post-colonial history. During that time hundreds of thousands of Africa's best brains have abandoned the continent of their birth for better lives in the developed world. The spectre haunting South Africa is that of the two-class state. If the middle class packs up and leaves, all that will remain is a tiny elite and a massive underclass. John Gambarana, one of the country's growing number of "emigration consultants", knows how to prey on these fears. Holding up a book by Lester Venter called When Mandela Goes, an apocalyptic vision of South Africa's future, he was spotted in the upmarket Johannesburg suburb of Sandton earlier this year proclaiming to a predominantly white audience: "People - this book is a wake-up call. The bad news is that the pawpaw's really going to hit the fan. The good news is the fan probably won't be working." The message was clear: "Get out while you can." But predictions that the end is nigh are premature. Admittedly, the brain-drain is worrying. The fact that it is three times bigger than anyone thought, even more so. But some perspective is necessary. The higher figure still represents only an annual 0.3 per cent loss of South Africa's extensive skills base. And as Meyer points out: "Even at that rate you would need three centuries to exhaust the stock of highly skilled people in this country." The obvious question is why haven't more people abandoned the sinking ship? The inescapable answer is that, despite record crime rates, soaring levels of unemployment, the unprecendented wave of violence sweeping the country, and the ravages of corruption, the South African ship of state isn't sinking. In fact, it's doing rather well. It is regarded by the international financial community as one of the most disciplined of all the emerging markets. It has driven down inflation to a 30-year low. It faced up to, and won, a potentially crippling wage demand from the public sector unions. And its low labour costs and potential for economic growth are among the most attractive in the world. It remains to be seen, however, whether President Thabo Mbeki, Mandela's successor, can muster the political courage required to tackle the country's awesome economic and social challenges. On that question the jury is still out. South Africa has shown a particular inability to stimulate economic growth. 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