Two items from the July30 list.  I am posting these merely as an example of
how extremely complex issues such as abortion can be.  It's up to each
person, ISTM, to decide where the *real* "ultimate elitism" lies...or,
perhaps, whether it may not lie in *both* positions equally.

A very wise older woman once said something that stunned me.  I asked what
her view was on abortion, curious as to what her unique experience as both
an organic chemist and an electrical engineer had shown her.  Her answer:
"Life begins *at birth.*"

Think about it.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 9:27 AM
Subject: [July30] Abortion "rights": The Ultimate In Elitism


July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com

REMINDING ALL OF YOU THERE IS NO FREEDOM OR LIBERTY WITHOUT LIFE! How can
any
of you claim to love freedom when you want to deny a human being the right
to
live? The following article underlines the fact that to be in favor of the
"right" to abortion is the ULTIMATE IN ELITISM.


From: News and Views | Opinion |
Wednesday, July 05, 2000
Time for the Abortion Pill?
No, it devalues human life
By GEORGE J. MARLIN

For more than a century, U.S. elitists known as eugenicists have advocated
disposing of undesirables - the poor, immigrants, the handicapped.
America's leading families - the Rockefellers, Harrimans, Carnegies and
Eastmans - funded the Cold Spring Harbor Eugenics Laboratory, Eugenics
Record Office and the American Eugenics Society. These groups promoted the
view of forebear Karl Pearson "that the state might well have to intervene
in reproductive matters at least in families of anti-social propagators of
unnecessary human beings."

One of contemporary feminism's greatest heroines, Margaret Sanger, said in
1921 that eugenics is "suggested by the most diverse minds as the most
adequate and thorough avenues to the solution of racial, political and
social problems." Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, openly admitted
"more children for the fit, less from the unfit, that is the chief issue of
birth control."

Today, eugenicists argue for a political agenda under the guise of
"liberal," "scientific" or "scholarly" interests. In the name of
"compassion" and "choice," they lobby legislators and judges to sanction
abortion, infanticide and geronticide.

The heirs of Sanger are now popping champagne corks because they expect Food
and Drug Administration approval of their latest potion to rid the world of
undesirables: RU-486, the abortion pill. Women's rights activist Peg Yorkin
donated $10 million to the Feminist Majority Foundation to make RU-486
available in the U.S. Alex Sanger, who now heads the so-called family
planning organization his grandmother founded, describes their efforts as
"one of the most important victories in this century."

These ideologues expect this pill to place the transmission of human life
into ethically neutral terrain. By chemically emptying the womb of growing
life, they hope to limit the abortion debate to biological propositions.
What they fail to grasp is that regardless of the technique that induces
abortion, the moral gravity of the action does not change. The human embryo
is not a biological by-product. Hence, even a government-approved abortion
pill cannot be viewed as equivalent to taking Ex-Lax.

At the Nuremberg trials, doctors who practiced Nazi eugenics were convicted
of crimes against humanity. The court rejected the Nazi doctors'
"scientific" dehumanization of Jews, Catholics, Slavs and Gypsies and
embraced instead the Judeo-Christian view of the human being as a person who
is precious and possesses intrinsic rights.

The prerequisite for all rights, the inalienable right to life, cannot
justly be taken by the state with regulated abortion drugs because the state
has no power to grant this right. The person's inalienable rights are
granted by God, the author of human nature. They are natural rights
precisely because, as Thomas Jefferson put it, they are "the gift of God."
>From Jefferson to Martin Luther King, Americans have understood the laws of
nature and of nature's God as the great guardians of the soul of democracy,
which rests on the intrinsic value of the person. Therefore, whether an
abortion is induced by a pill or other means, it is still a grave and
immoral attack upon the inviolability of the human person, and as such
represents a threat to the dignity of all of us.

Marlin, former executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New
Jersey, is the author of "The Politician's Guide to Assisted Suicide,
Cloning and Other Current Controversies."

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From: "Deb Lagutaris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [July30] Abortion "rights": The Ultimate In Elitism-NOT


> July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com
>
> I am writing to remind you that none of us will have rights when the earth
> is too overpopulated to sustain our bloated mass.  Furthermore, "prolife"
is
> a tool in the hands of men to control women.  I will, to the degree that I
> can manage it, eliminate control by men of women's bodily autonomy.  We
have
> no control of theirs.  You are talking elitism of the highest order here
and
> the hardest to eradicate, that of males.
>
> Just in case you are wondering, I am married with two children.  But
> separated from an alcoholic.  Now that I am on my own I have learned that
I
> am an excellent student and an excellent example for my grandchildren of
> what a woman can accomplish to take care of herself.  Your ideology keeps
> women in thrall to men who physically and emotionally abuse them because
> they have no other way to support themselves.  And don't tell me that only
a
> few men do this.  Studies have indicated that around 40% of men think it
is
> OK to use violence to control women.
>
> I will fight against the control that the prolifers want to impose on
women
> until I die.
>
> Deborah Lagutaris
>
>
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>
> "What we're doing in Vietnam is using the black man to kill the yellow
> man so the white man can keep the land he took from the red man."--Dick
> Gregory
>
>
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Robert F. Tatman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jenkintown, PA, USA
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