DATE: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:15:40 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eternera Mailing List - http://get.to/eternera Support Antiwar.com http://Antiwar.com and also the Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space http://www.space4peace.org +Make nonviolent peace. Speak truth to power. Pray for one another. Be merciful. Love your enemies. Forgive those who've hurt you. Come Lord Jesus Christ. Deo Gratias.+ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:15:51 -0500 From: "ScanThisNews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [FP] Echelon & Carnivore on Liddy To: "ScanThisNews Recipients List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ====================================================================== SCAN THIS NEWS 8.8.2000 -----Original Message----- From: James A. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Echelon & Carnivore Friend, On Monday, August 14, I will be on Gordon Liddy's show to discuss Echelon and Carnivore. If you have any late info on these programs, I'd like to hear from you. BTW, we are also covering these spying projects on two panels during Surveillance Expo. If you have anyone to recommend to join one or both panels, we'd like to hear from you on that. We're very pleased that Charles Collins, candidate for President, has agreed to participate in expo this year and to sit on these panels. For full information on this year's expo offerings visit: www.surveillance-expo.com Regards, Jim Ross Privacy and Security 2001 Jim Ross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (www.rosseng.com) Ross Engineering Group, Inc. 8785 Commerce Ct., Manassas, VA 20110 T/F: 703-365-2200/0263 ********************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Social security is the bane of individual liberty. - SAM ====================================================================== Don't believe anything you read on the Net unless: 1) you can confirm it with another source, and/or 2) it is consistent with what you already know to be true. ====================================================================== Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ====================================================================== This is a copy of ScanThisNews, sent to contributors. 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