.............................................................. >From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Ian Goddard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Flight800: A Plea for Truth Date: Monday, August 14, 2000 6:50 AM The Flight 800 Independent Researchers Organization has issued a challenge to the major media to stop promoting proven falsehoods regarding the crash of TWA Flight 800. A year ago FIRO showed that the official crash scenario violates the radar data (http://Flight800.org/radar6.htm) so severely that it violates the conservation of energy, and thus is pseudoscientific nonsense, as FIRO president and physicist Dr Thomas Stalcup has clearly demonstrated (http://Flight800.org/radar9.htm). Based on the official radar data, my calculations corroborated his conclusion. FIRO's challenge to the media to stop promoting pseudo- science is made in the following devastating critique of the official explanation of eyewitness accounts: ======================================================== from: http://Flight800.org/cia_propaganda.htm ======================================================== FBI force-fed mainstream media Flight 800 CIA propaganda When the FBI stepped away from the Flight 800 investigation in November of 1997, then Assistant Director James Kallstrom held a press conference, which included a CIA video. The video allegedly depicted the final moments of flight for the doomed aircraft as it headed to Paris. All the major networks aired the video nationwide during primetime hours. But no network was given the chance to review the content of the animations, nor even the opportunity to check the validity of the data used to produce it. Even Boeing was out of the loop. "Boeing was not involved in the production of the [CIA] video shown today, nor have we had the opportunity to obtain a copy or fully understand the data used to create it." (Boeing Press Release, 11/18/97) The CIA video was produced to show the world what the Flight 800 eyewitnesses saw. "Of particular concern to FBI investigators and CIA analysts are accounts from dozens of eyewitnesses who reported seeing an object--usually described as a "flare" or "firework"--ascend and culminate in an explosion." (CIA Deputy Director for Intelligence John C. Gannon) The video attributed the ascending "firework" to Flight 800 itself, after a violent midair explosion blew off its forward section. According to the CIA, a resulting weight imbalance caused Flight 800 to pitch up sharply and climb approximately 3,000 feet. CNN continues to maintain a URL reporting on the FBI press conference and CIA video. [ http://cnn.com/US/9711/18/twa.fbi.presser/index.html ] "This may have looked like a missile attacking an aircraft," the CIA narrator alleged. Dramatic music accompanied the introduction and conclusion of the video, which included the onscreen, underlined words "not a missile" on several occasions. Nearly two years later, raw radar data from the crash were released, showing direct conflict with the CIA crash sequence. [ http://Flight800.org/radar6.htm ] In August of 1999, these data were presented during a nationally televised (C-Span II) press conference of independent Flight 800 researchers. And more recently (April, 2000) the eyewitness evidence was released showing further conflict with the CIA video. In fact, the two key witnesses referenced to produce the CIA video say that it does not represent what they saw at all. Mike Wire -- The backdrop of the CIA video shows Mr. Wire's exact view from "Beach Lane Bridge" in Westhampton, NY. No CIA representative ever contacted Mr. Wire, yet the CIA crash sequence was based upon an FBI drawing Wire made while at his Pennsylvania home. He was never taken back to the bridge to gain line of sight trajectories or other information. During a July 17, 2000 press conference (carried live by Fox News Channel) Wire stated that the CIA video does not account for what he saw. Dwight Brumley -- The video also takes into account the observations of Master Chief Dwight Brumley (active duty Navy at the time of the crash). He was looking out a right side window of a US-Air Flight when Flight 800 crashed (3 miles away). Before the explosion, he reported seeing a "flare-like" object ascend from below and behind the US-Air jet. The object passed the US-Air plane on a parallel (NNE) heading, toward Flight 800. [ http://Flight800.org/brumley.gif ] But the CIA video misrepresented Brumley's testimony, giving the flare- like object an erroneous origin and heading, making it fit a theory that it was Flight 800. Brumley was never interviewed by the CIA, nor was he asked any detailed questions about his observations by any federal investigator. Brumley also spoke at the July 2000 press conference and stated that the CIA video does not account for what he saw. The only detailed briefings taken from Mr. Wire or Master Chief Brumley were by independent investigators from the Association of Retired Aviation Professionals (ARAP) [ http://TWA800.com ] and Flight 800 Independent Researchers Organization (FIRO). [ http://Flight800.org ] The fact that neither the FBI, NTSB, nor CIA took detailed briefings from these witnesses is shocking, but does help explain the video's misrepresentations of their accounts. Not only are the Wire/Brumley accounts inconsistent with the CIA video, but all witness accounts who saw the front section separate from Flight 800 contradict the CIA conclusions. The CIA alleges that the loss of the forward section of the plane preceded a steep climb of Flight 800. This climb is supposed to account for what dozens of eyewitnesses saw going up. But not one eyewitness who reported seeing the front section separate from the rear agrees. These eyewitnesses either see a secondary object cause the front section to separate or observe Flight 800 descend immediately after losing its forward section. Witness 55: "She then saw and heard an explosion and saw the cockpit separate from the plane. She saw a trail of blue-gray smoke following these pieces downward." (NTSB Witness Exhibit, Appendix B [ http://TWA800.com/witnesscd/witnesscd.htm ]) Witness 73: "While keeping her eyes on the aircraft, she observed a 'red streak' moving up from the ground toward the aircraft at approximately a 45 degree angle...[and afterwards] observed the front of the aircraft separate from the back." (NTSB Witness Exhibit, Appendix B) Witness 88: "He glanced over to the southeast and observed what he thought was a firework ascending into the sky...[and afterwards] noted that he felt that either the bright red object pushed the nose cone of the plane up or the plane was slightly angled upward when the strike occurred." (NTSB Witness Exhibit, Appendix B) Witness 150: " She followed the object for approximately 2 or 3 seconds when she then noticed a large commercial airliner which appeared to be travelling at the same altitude, 'just stop' and begin to disintegrate...As the plane [identified by the witness as a 747] came apart, its nose turned up and to the right." (NTSB Witness Exhibit, Appendix C) The above four, independent eyewitnesses are highly credible. Two of them informed the FBI that the front section of the plane separated before it was confirmed during salvage efforts, while the other two suggested the same. Three of the four describe a secondary object rise up from the surface and cause the forward section to separate. But the CIA somehow got the order of events reversed and created a video showing an ascending streak of light after front section departure. The CIA simply did not do their homework. The video is in total disagreement with the radar data as well [ http://flight800.org/radar6.htm] as with the two key eyewitnesses upon which it is based. Furthermore, all eyewitnesses who viewed the front section separation are in conflict with the video. But the CIA video concludes: "The 21 eyewitnesses whose observations began earlier describe what almost certainly was the aircraft in various stages of crippled flight after it exploded. Those who said they saw something ascend and culminate in an explosion probably saw the burning aircraft ascend and erupt into a fireball just after it reached its maximum altitude. From a distance of 9 miles or more this may have looked like a missile attacking an aircraft, but nothing in their statements leads CIA analysts to conclude that these eyewitnesses in fact saw a missile. Indeed, several eyewitnesses who suspected that they had watched a missile destroy an aircraft were puzzled that they hadn't actually seen the aircraft before the missile hit it. The following summaries from 21 FBI eyewitness statements "whose observations began earlier" are at odds with the above CIA conclusions. For starters, a majority (13) did see an aircraft. Witness 73: "On 7/17/96, at approximately 8:37 P.M., she was on the Mobay (phonetic) section of Long Island Beach, New York, when she observed an aircraft climbing in the sky, traveling from her right to her left. She advised that the sun was setting behind her. While keeping her eyes on the aircraft, she observed a 'red streak' moving up from the ground toward the aircraft at an approximately a 45 degree angle. The 'red streak' was leaving a light gray colored smoke trail. The 'red streak went passed the right side and above the aircraft before arcing back toward the aircraft's right wing. Described the arc's shape as resembling an upside down NIKE swoosh logo. The smoke trail, which was light gray in color was narrow initially and widened as it approached the aircraft. She initially thought someone had set off a flare and commented same to her friends...She never took her eyes off the aircraft during this time. At the instant the smoke trail ended at the aircraft's right wing, she heard a loud sharp noise which sounded like a firecracker had just exploded at her feet. She then observed a fire at the aircraft followed by one or two secondary explosions which had a deeper sound. She then observed the front of the aircraft separate from the back. She then observed burning pieces of debris falling from the aircraft." Witness 88: "All of a sudden he heard an explosion. He glanced over to the southeast and observed what he thought was a firework ascending into the sky. He stated he originally felt this firework emanated from the shoreline on the other side of the jetty to the east. He stated that he continued to watch the firework ascend, expecting to view the explosion in the sky. He stated this object which was ascending left a wispy white smoke trail. About midway through its flight, the smoke trail stopped and the object turned a bright red in color. He felt that this bright red flame was at the top of the device. He stated that he now thought it was some type of boating distress flare. All of a sudden, it apparently reached the top of its flight. He stated that the red fireball then arced from the east to the west. At this point he observed an airplane come into the field of view. He stated this airplane was very high up and many miles from his location. He stated that the bright red object ran into the airplane and upon doing so both the plane and the object turned a real bright red then exploded into a huge plume of flame. He noted that he felt that either the bright red object pushed the nose cone of the plane up or the plane was slightly angled upward when the strike occurred. He stated he felt the bright red object struck the plane towards the cockpit area." Witness 150: The shiny object "had no projections on it, like wings, but [she asked herself] why would there be such a huge bullet hurling through the sky?...She followed the object for approximately 2 or 3 seconds when she then noticed a large commercial airliner which appeared to be traveling at the same altitude, 'just stop' and begin to disintegrate...As the plane [identified by the witness as a 747] came apart, its nose turned up and to the right." Witness 166: "noticed a large commercial plane flying east...[then] noticed something ascending 30-35 miles away, which looked like white, yellow fire, trailed by black smoke...It ascended in a straight line at an angle of seven to ten degrees away from a vertical ninety degree...[He] believed it was from the water...After hearing news of the crash, he concluded that he had seen a missile. He stated he was in the Polish army in 1974 and has experience with missiles...[He] opined that this was a medium size missile which would have required three experienced people to operate." Witness 675: At a water hole in Speonk, NY "...noticed an orange flare ascending from the south, traveling in a WNW direction trailing white or light gray smoke. He then observed the flare strike what looked like an eastbound Cessna airplane on the port side. 675 saw a small burst of flame erupt from the port side wing near the fuselage. Approximately two (2) seconds later he saw the plane go into a spiral and explode. With five (5) seconds [of losing the falling debris behind the tree line] he heard what sounded like thunder and felt the ground shake." Witness 34: "observed what he thought was a shooting star travelling west to east coming from the south shore...[it] moved faster than an airplane and had no arch to it...he stated that it approached the aircraft (what he originally thought was a Coast Guard flare) from west to east...He was approximately 15 miles from where he observed the crash site and no more then 5 miles from the missile (originally described as a shooting star)." Witness 107: He "described the flare as starting off in the front of a larger obect and giving off an orange glow initially...[and] advised that the initial flare seemed to hit the object then shoot off to the west at an eighty (80) degree angle giving off an orange and red glow." Witness 145: "stated that she saw a plane and noticed an object spiraling towards the plane. The object which she saw for about one second, had a glow at the end of it and a gray/white smoke trail. She stated she saw the object hit the plane and the object headed down toward the ocean. She could not be sure where the object hit the plane, but said it could have been to the side or near the back. She heard a loud noise and saw an explosion just as the object hit the plane. The plane dropped towards the water and appeared to split in two pieces. A few seconds later, she heard another explosion. She stated that the explosions were so loud that they shook the house." A drawing of the collision is presented. Witness 640: At Smith Point Park, "he leaned back to stretch [and] his eye caught a jet plane in the sky, off to his left, and moving eastward. At the same time, he saw, off to his right, a 'green flash' rising up, and going toward the plane. The "flash" was far out in the ocean, was rising from the west, was also traveling east, and was behind the plane." Witness 144: "she first noticed a plane in the sky traveling right to left...She then saw an object angle to the right with a bright orange glow with a white streak behind it...She then lost site of the streak because of the clouds. She described this streak as 'taking off like a rocket.' She thought at first that she saw fireworks but then changed her mind and said 'no way it was a missile.' After the clouds parted she saw a bright orange fireball, more than doubled in size, which broke shortly after into two pieces." Witness 550b: "[H]e saw a plane coming from west to east and then what looked like a 'smaller' plane coming from the northeast on a dead course heading toward the nose of the larger plane...and saw what looked like aerial bomb fireworks. The larger plane blew up and became a big fireball...he heard a sound like paper crackling when the 'two planes' crunched up." Witness 649: At Westhampton Beach High School, 649 observed a "projectile ascend in the sky." It was "red or pink with a trail of whitish smoke. The projectile moved in a squiggly manner in a southwest direction. The projectile was airborne for six-seven seconds and then it met with a shiny object that produced white smoke. The white smoke disappeared and then a red ball began to form. The red ball fell in an easterly direction at a [?]much quicker[?] pace than the projectile was ascending." [? this is contradicted by a later FBI summary that says the second object fell at the same or half the speed of the first, ascending object.] Witness 658: While piloting an Air National Guard Helicopter, "Baur first noticed what he thought was a flare and said into the helicopter's radio, "Is that a pyro?" Baur's first thought was that two things had flown into each other." He also saw the falling debris and immediately flew to the area in a search and rescue effort. From NTSB interview, Appendix N: A "white-hot.. pyrotechnic... device...[which] came from the left and went to the right. And it made the object on the right explode." Witness 221: "At approximately 8:30 pm, he heard the sound of jet plane engines and he looked up so see a large commercial jet which had apparently just taken off from John F. Kennedy International Airport. The aircraft was increasing in altitude as it flew out over the ocean in an easterly or southeasterly direction...Within seconds after the aircraft past him, his wife called his attention to two fishing draggers which were directly south or southwest of their location. ...looking at the draggers, but further east or in the same direction of where the aircraft flew, he saw a streak of light travel up from the water into the sky...[like] a rocket or like a shooting star only going upward..." then heard rumbling sound and saw flash of light. Witness 157: "he noticed a red flare or firework trailing white smoke ascending over the tree line on the south side of the waterhole. The flare was angling east- southeast. Approximately seven (7) to ten (10) seconds later, he observed a large fireball erupt approximately 12 miles away. An object, not on fire fell away from the fireball. Before the explosion in the sky, he observed a plane in the area of the flare. After the explosion, he could no longer see the plane." Witness 218: "observed what appeared to him as two objects flying up, coming together and exploding.... then a blue and dark purple flash. Then another part dropped off. The rest of the plane seemed to coast a little further." Witness 233: "she noticed a flare off in the distance, rising into the air [later describing the flare as rising "at a steady, remarkable pace"]...and straight up..[then after looking away at nearby boats that she thought may have launched the flare], she reacquired the flare still glowing and still steadily rising...pause..then brightly pulse in a small concentrated area...within two (2) seconds of the pulse she observed a large object seemingly stopping its forward momentum while igniting into a fireball." Witness 261: "saw a red navigator light from an airplane in the distance. He then saw an orange firework, with a tail, in the air southwest of him. The firework traveled up, then arched down before he lost sight of it. Seconds later he saw a second and third firework in the sky simultaneously..[and they]..traveled in the same arching pattern of the first firework. Approximately 30 seconds later, he heard a rumble and saw a blue vertical line of smoke stretch down to the horizon." Witness 243: "This flying object looked like it came up from land [later described as "ascending into the sky from an east to west direction"] in the Moriches area.. [It] was relatively slow in flying up and took about four or five seconds before hitting the plane. The smoke which trailed this object was whitish in color and the band of smoke was narrow. It looked like a Roman candle flying into the air...and neither it, nor its impact with the plane, made any noise." Witness 508: saw "an orange thing streak toward a dark object for about 10 seconds [approaching] ...from behind and on a downward angle and continued until an explosion occurred...[And from another FBI summary, he described the trajectory of the orange object:] saw an orange object ascending in the sky...travelling horizontally from right to left." [This other summary does not mention the "dark object."] Witness 185: "To the right of the star, a 'yellowy- orange" light, 'all glowing', was coming up, it arced, from the right of the star going left. It went in front of the star and then exploded like a big bright light...She saw the rising light originate, she thought...from the water...then one piece falling" The above twenty-one eyewitnesses all describe two distinct objects in the sky. Thirteen identify the larger object as an aircraft, with a smaller object hurling towards it. Time after time, the smaller object is described as causing the aircraft to explode. Cloud cover on the night of the crash caused some eyewitnesses to lose sight of the "flare" before it exploded, and Flight 800 was likely behind these same clouds, out of view to many eyewitnesses. Thus, most of the 183 eyewitnesses who reported seeing an ascending "flare-like" object did not see an aircraft. But sixty of these reported either a western or eastern component for the ascending object, and a majority (33) gave a western component. The CIA says the "flare-like" object was Flight 800, heading east to Paris. It is clear that the analysts did not pay attention to details, since they did not bother to interview eyewitnesses, nor account for the radar evidence. The finished product was simply multimedia misinformation, with the CIA stamp of approval preceding dramatic music and state of the art 3-D animations--all costing U.S. taxpayers $40,000.00. But when put to the test, it does not represent reality, as seen by the eyewitnesses and recorded by FAA radar. The video is mere propaganda for an official crash theory that does not include a missile. Now that the truth is known, will the mainstream media, who transmitted this nonsense to the taxpayers during primetime, give equal time for the truth? FIRO is sending a letter to all the major networks asking just that. We will keep the public informed as to their decision. ========================================================== from: http://Flight800.org/cia_propaganda.htm ========================================================== Ian Goddard's critique of the CIA's "you saw nothing" F800 video: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/ciavideo.htm Aviation experts show many ways the CIA-video violates physics: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/experts.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ GODDARD'S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm ____________________________________________________________ Asking the "wrong questions," challenging the Official Story Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *********************************** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ** Explore Our Archive: <http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html> <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. 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