Well I'll be dipped in horse pucky --  after reading the lengthy list of
words listed herein, are there ANY words which can be used in an email
without setting off bells and alarms at the perusal sites of our large brethren?
 
 
 
 

"schuetzen - RKBA!" wrote:

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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:18:57 -0400, "John Perna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Hunting For Large Carnivores

Picking us off one at a time
 By Walter E. Williams, CREATORS SYNDICATE

http://www.conservativehq.com/chq/displayarticle?articleId=3014

Richard Mann, a North Carolina farmer, shot a wolf that was
 threatening his cattle. When he went to bury the animal the next
 day, he was confronted by U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS)
 officials who charged him with killing a red wolf -- a federally
 protected endangered species. Mann was fined $2,000 and required to
 perform "community services" -- building wolf houses and feeding the
 wolves.

John Taylor, of Mount Vernon, Va., was ordered not to build a small
 house on his lot to accommodate his wheelchair-bound wife. The FWS
 says it would harm a bald eagle nest located 90 feet away.

Oregon's Board of Forestry has forced Alvin and Marsha Seiber to set
 aside 37 acres of their 200-acre commercially harvestable land to
 protect the northern spotted owl.

Paul Presault purchased his Burlington, Vt., residence in 1975.
 About 60 feet from his house was a railroad track. After he moved
 in, the railroad company pulled up the track and formally abandoned
 the line. Under an 1899 agreement, the land was to be returned to
 the original owners or successors. The City of Burlington had other
 plans. They simply took the property and built a bike and pedestrian
 path. People ride through Presault's, property creating a nuisance.

Every week, 15 women gathered at Diane Reiter's Denver home for
 Bible study, prayer and dinner. There was no loud music, speeches or
 other noise. Nonetheless, the Denver zoning administration served
 Reiter with a cease-and-desist order citing a municipal ordinance
 that prohibits more than one "prayer meeting" a month in a private
 home.

These cases and many more are summarized in the "National Directory
 of Environmental and Regulatory Victims," a publication of the
 Washington, D.C.-based National Center for Public Policy Research.
 They represent gross violations of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S.
 Constitution, namely, "... nor shall private property be taken for
 public use without just compensation."

You say: "What do you mean, Williams? The government didn't take
 their property; the people still hold title." Holding title to
 private property, all by itself, doesn't mean very much. For
 example, suppose the government recognizes that you can hold title
 to your house but forbids you from living in it. The fact that you
 hold title to the house would be meaningless because the government
 has restricted your options. By decree the government has reduced
 the value of your property, and as such it is a "taking" of property
 without just compensation in violation of the U.S. Constitution.

Let's look at Oregon's Board of Forestry forcing the Seiber family
 to set aside 37 acres of their 200-acre plot to protect the northern
 spotted owl. It just might be that protecting the spotted owl is
 vital to the national interests. But the burden and cost of
 protecting the spotted owl should be borne by all Americans, not
 fall on particular Americans -- Mr. and Mrs. Seiber. Justice and
 fairness require that the Seibers be compensated for the loss in
 value of their property from having to set aside 37 acres.
Just compensation doesn't go over big with environmentalist wackos,
 simply because it would reveal the cost of their agenda. They
 achieve their agenda better simply by getting federal, state and
 local governments to run roughshod over people's rights. They pick
 us off one at a time. The rest of us don't know how our neighbors
 are being victimized and, if we did, I doubt whether there'd be many
 of us who'd care and be willing to help defend our fellow citizen.

We should all pause and remember that if the government can rip off
 one citizen, what's to say one of us won't be next?

[Forwarded For Information Purposes Only - Not
 Necessarily Endorsed By The Sender

Dear Federal Snooper:

    We got you to read all of the wisdom, that you see above, by including the
"Carnivore" key words list that you see below.
Learn something and repent. We know that the reason that they call it
"Carnivore" is because it "goes after the meat" of a message, and has the
ability to ignore words that are not in complete sentences. There is a nice
dissertation on Waco right after the key word list. ENJOY!

    No one is spared, when freedom fails
    The best men rot in filthy jails,
    And those who cried appease. appease!
    Are hanged by those that they tried to please

Key word Source:

http://members.xoom.com/nm_militia/spookbait.htm

Key words choked Echelon, but they are not enough bait for the Carnivore. They
call it Carnivore, because it "goes after the meat" of the message. It only
reacts to complete sentences. There is a great story about Waco following the
spook bait list.:

Don't be alarmed, this is only bait for eavesdropping  government computers at
NSA inc., CIA inc. and FBI inc. Pirates, Privateers and Brigands that they are.

Their computers are keyed to trigger on such words and copy the suspect
communications to their system. Use this list in your email! If enough people
would do this, we could bog their system down and thus hopefully prove to them
how fruitless and immoral this whole thing is.

Your right to privacy in personal communications does matter! Do something about
it!

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Key words are nor enough bait for the Carnivore. They call it Carnivore, because
it "goes after the meat" of the message. It only reacts to complete sentences.
Here is a great story about Waco:

 WACO, A NEW REVELATION

Mega Films states that this is the film that triggered a new Congressional
investigation of the WACO tragedy. It is indeed a new revelation about the
events that took place in the WACO incident. You will see evidence recovered
from the WACO evidence lockers, and testimony from FBI, CIA, and Special Forces
operatives, along with interviews with Branch Davidian survivors. See for
yourself the filmed events of WACO.

This 110 minute video presentation is narrated by former FBI Special Agent, Dr.
Frederic Whitehurst. It is produced by MEGA FILMS, INC.
 
 

If you have already seen that is GREAT! Now you will be able to get your friends
to come with you!

Waco: A New Revelation - $27.95 (tax and shipping included)
This feature-length documentary presents shocking new evidence that is
helping to bring the complete story of the Waco tragedy to light. Based
on physical evidence, FBI testimonies, and interviews with survivors,
Waco: A New Revelation has triggered a Congressional investigation and
new questions about the government's role in the deaths of 79 men,
women, and children. (1999, 110 minutes)

American Opinion Bookstore
P. O. Box 5184
Columbia, S. C. 29250-5184

Below you will find a review of "Waco: A New Revelation,"

Vin Suprynowicz wrote:

     FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA
     FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED JAN. 23, 2000
     EDITORS: A SHORTER VERSION, AT 1,000 WORDS, ALSO MOVES.
    THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz
    Video contends Davidians were machine-gunned, crushed by tanks

    Is it possible David Koresh didn't lose his confrontation with the
 Godless state he and his followers identified as "Babylon," at all?
  Throughout their 51-day Texas standoff in the spring of 1993, Koresh
and his followers repeatedly compared their plight to that of God's people
facing the "flaming chariots" of Babylon in the biblical prophesies of
Nahum and Habakkuk. A follower says Koresh believed he would be the one
to "bring down Babylon" by sacrificing himself and his denomination.
  Will it turn out that -- like an earlier group of Texas martyrs who
died buying time for Sam Houston at the Alamo -- the Branch Davidians still
 retain the power to reach out from the grave and smight theiroppressors?
   After completing the documentary "Waco: The Rules of Engagement' --
nominated for an Academy Award -- researcher Mike McNulty continued to
delve into the central mystery of Waco: Why would scores of perfectly
sane and decent Christian Americans apparently choose to condemn themselves
and their "unusually bright and well-treated" children (per Texas child
welfare authorities) to death in the flames, rather than coming out and
surrendering to the federal tanks and helicopters that surrounded them?
   Mr. McNulty appears to have found some answers -- at least to the
extent anyone still can, given the determined after-the-fact efforts to
bleach
and bulldoze the "crime scene." Those answers are offered in the new video:
 "Waco: A New Revelation," directed by Jason Van Vleet.
 The documentary is not strident. If anything, the new evidence is
piled up in such a measured and matter-of-fact way -- superposed with the
 sneering denials of FBI spokesmen and apologists like U.S. Rep. (now
Sen.) Charles Schumer -- that its full impact may not register without a
second viewing.
 But at that point, any thoughtful viewer of conscience must wonder how
willfully the Congress and populace of this country must (start
ital)want(end ital) to ignore the truth, to be able to close their eyes to
facts like the following:
   On the evening of Feb. 28, three Branch Davidians who had not been
present for the initial BATF raid and shoot-out attempted to get home to
 their wives and children in the Mount Carmel church. They were
intercepted and fired upon by 17 agents "dressed as trees." Two were
captured, but Michael Dean Schroeder -- not charged with any crime -- was shot
seven
 times and killed. As the other two Davidians were led away -- after
 Schroeder was down -- they report hearing two final shots behind them,
in quick succession. An autopsy showed Michael Dean Schroeder had two neat
 bullet holes immediately behind his right ear. His body was left lying
in the ravine for five days.
   Far from inviting an exodus and surrender, tape recordings reveal that
by late March, FBI negotiators told the Davidians: "No one is authorized to
come out of there for any reason. The patience of the bosses is no
longer what it was. If anyone tries to come out, they will be treated in
such a way that they'll be forced to retreat."
   Former FBI Director William Sessions wanted to fly to Waco to
negotiate with David Koresh face-to-face, but the Justice Department refused
to let him board his plane. Sessions' wife, Alice Sessions, explains: "The FBI
did not want it negotiated. They wanted to show they could win with military
 type tactics; it was a paramilitary organization."
   When the final government attack with toxic and disabling CS gas
finally began early on the morning of April 19, the buried school bus was
gassed  first, forcing the women and children to retreat to the reinforced
concrete records vault, which the FBI referred to as "the bunker." Gas was
then  pumped into the bunker, which had no ventilation, for two hours. Rep.
John Mica, R-Fla., tells Congress: "At the very least that resulted in the
babies and children being tortured for at least three to four hours."
   Manning sniper post Sierra 1 in the "undercover house," Lon Horiuchi
(who eight months earlier had shot the unarmed Vicky Weaver as she stood
holding a baby in her kitchen in Ruby Ridge, Idaho), "accompanied by most of
the FBI team from Ruby Ridge," swore he did not fire into the church on
April 19. But other FBI agents swore they heard fire from his position, and
four expended .308 shell casings were later found there.
   At 9:02 a.m. On April 19, a Branch Davidian is spotted trying to exit
the building across the roof. "Falcon 2," an FBI helicopter, is seen
 approaching in ground-level footage. It hovers, and muzzle flashes can
be seen from its port waist gun. Dr. Edward Allard, formerly of the U.S.
government's Night Vision Directorate, says his analysis shows at least
three, five-shot machine gun bursts. "It's indicative of a machine gun
firing 600 rounds per minute," he says. "It's impossible for these to be
solar flashes."
   Other close-range video -- not high-altitude footage -- clearly shows
 full-sized machine guns in cradle mounts in the waist doors of the FBI
 helicopters, which the government long swore were unarmed.

   Branch Davidians Phillip Henry and Jimmy Riddle appear to have been
shot  behind the building at this time. Neither had soot in their lungs of
carbon  monoxide in their blood -- both died before the fire. An autopsy showed
 half of Riddle's body torn away, which the medical examiner said could
have  been consistent with "an encounter with a tank tread."

   However, when the family re-opened Riddle's casket for a follow-up
 examination of his fatal bullet wounds, the evidentiary portion of his
 skull was missing. The widow says the local medical examiner was
instructed  by Texas authorities and U.S. marshals not to release his autopsy
results  to the family.

   The film's researcher, Mike McNulty, tells me the most likely scenario
is that Henry and Riddle were shot behind the building by government agents
 around 9 a.m. A lull followed, as the FBI pondered what to do. Them,
closer  to noontime, their bodies were bulldozed back into the church dining
room  by tanks, and the final government assault -- with machine guns and
 incendiary grenades -- began in earnest.

   Viewing the government's high-altitude infrared footage of the final
 battle, Dr. Edward Allard, formerly of the U.S. government's Night
Vision  Directorate, explains: "What we have here is a tank-infantry type of
 operation. As the tank advances, two men have dropped out of the escape
 hatch. They then roll over, and as they roll over they open up with
 automatic gunfire. The shots occur at one-thirtieth of a second. There
is  absolutely nothing in nature that can cause thermal flashes to occur in
a  thirtieth of a second."

   Dr. Allard reports he stopped counting the gunshots into the dining
room  -- the last available escape route from the building after the fire
broke  out -- "after 62 individual shots."

   The filmmakers report Maurice Cox, a former analyst with the U.S.
 intelligence community, determined that for an aircraft circling at
9,000 feet to pick up rhythmic flashes at a rate of 600 per minute from
 "reflected sunlight" as the government claims, the reflective surfaces
 would have to be placed in a precise array, and the aircraft would have
to  be traveling at the absurd speed of Mach 1.8.

   FBI officials have refused to respond to Cox's findings, and have
dragged  their feet in the face of demands that they re-create the footage to
see
if  sunlight reflections can be made to look like the flashes in the
 Forward-Looking Infrared (FLIR) footage. Absurdly, the FBI claims
cameras  like the one used in 1993 can no longer be obtained.

   Meantime, ground level footage -- not distant aerial shots -- clearly
 show men in Kevlar army helmets firing projectiles from an M-79 grenade
 launcher into the church's storm shelter the morning of the final
assault.  Seconds later, white smoke pours from the shelter.

   Although the government has consistently denied the Army's Combat
 Applications Force -- the "Delta Force" -- was present at Waco,
previously  classified Army documents reveal that four Delta Force "observers"
were
 deployed to Waco on March 21. Gene Cullen, a senior case officer with
the  CIA's Special Forces Group, reports on camera he was "initially told
they  would just be observers. But at (an April 14) CIA briefing, we were told
 there were more than 10, and that they would be actively participating"
in the April 19 attack.
   March Bell, who headed the staff of the last congressional
investigation into Waco, tells the filmmakers: "They were in the tanks and the
sniper
posts. They were not giving advice back in some conference room -- they
were working shoulder to shoulder with the (FBI's) Hostage Rescue Team."
   Rep. Stephen Buyer, R-Ind., explains that it is a federal crime -- a
 violation of the Posse Comitatus Act -- to use any part of the Army or
Air Force "to enforce the law in this country."
   But CIA agent Cullen says he met Delta Force operators in Europe who
 "told me not only were they forward deployed at Waco, Texas, but they
were actually involved in a gunfight with the Branch Davidians."
   Steven Barry, a retired Special Forces sergeant, concurs: "I did talk
to some Combat Applications Group guys, and they did confirm that, yes,
 portions of B Squadron were there pulling triggers."
   Most chilling of all, Sgt. Barry reports: "Their operators had
penetrated the building on several occasions, and on one occasion, late April 17
or
 early on the 18th, they saw Koresh within six feet of them. They radioed
 back to the Tactical Operations Center for permission to grab him, and
 within minutes the word came back from the Justice Department, 'No, we
 already have a plan in place,' that being what happened on April 19."
   "People ask why we didn't let the children out," sobs Davidian
survivor Clive Doyle. "If they saw all that was happening, and they were there
with their children, would they have sent them out to the animals outside
that were shooting at them and doing all those terrible things? No. ... When
there was shooting going on it's kind of tongue in cheek to then turn
and say, 'Well, why didn't you come out?' "
  Although the government long denied its agents fired any incendiary
projectiles into the church -- which was lined with hay bales against
 government gunfire, heated with kerosene heaters after the government
shut off the electricity, and then flooded with combustible propellant for
the CS gas -- photographs taken after the fire clearly show a U.S. military
Mark 651 pyrotechnic CS gas projectile lying in the ashes.
  When researcher McNulty finally broached the evidence room with the
aid of the Freedom of Information Act in 1998, the pyrotechnic devices
visible in those photographs were missing from the evidence boxes. But two
additional pyrotechnic 40mm devices were found. The film's investigators
also found -- mislabeled as gun parts or silencers -- six spent
government flash-bang grenades, which were recovered from the dining room, the
chapel, and the southwest corner of the building -- "all three points of origin
of the fire."
   Asked at a press conference whether she is embarrassed that
independent filmmakers could find this evidence, when the FBI had been unable to
turn it up in six years, Attorney General Janet Reno responds: "I'm not
embarrassed. I'm very, very upset."
   At 12:10 p.m. on April 19 the overhead FLIR footage shows at least two
automatic weapons being fired into the rear of the dining room, the only
remaining undamaged exit from the now-burning building. According to a
 Justice Department report, at least 15 people were found shot to death
at this location. The FBI conducted ballistic tests which the DOJ later
termed "inconclusive and rudimentary at best."
   "I cannot remember anything more sickening" than watching that gunfire
 into the building's last exit, comments Dr. Allard.
  Asked whether the Davidian gunshot victims appeared to have committed
 suicide, a former FBI forensic crime scene analyst who preferred to be
 filmed only in silhouette responds: "The majority of people, the bodies
 that I saw, were clear-cut homicide victims. ...I don't know who fired
the bullets into their bodies. So in fact what we have here is an open
homicide."
  Congressional investigator March Bell says the treatment of those
bodies was "very troubling. The bodies were preserved in a semi-frozen state in
two trailers for the purposes of investigation. For some reason those
 trailers under the control of the FBI were allowed to not have any
 electricity running to them and the bodies deteriorated beyond the point
 where any sort of forensic evidence could be gathered. We were very
 disturbed by that."
   Indeed, the scene of the massacre was declared a "bio-hazard," and
since the FBI had predetermined this was a mass suicide, "The FBI
investigators were instructed to sift, wash, and bleach the evidence associated
with
the bodies, destroying much of its evidentiary value."
   The large hole in the roof of the concrete records vault where the
women and children were sheltering -- the rebar bent downwards as though from
an external blast -- has never been explained. Military explosives expert
Brig. Gen. Benton Partin, USAF retired, says "What it tells me is that
you had a demolition charge that went off on the roof."
   The FBI bulldozed the "bunker" to rubble. Six years later, in 1999,
when Davidian attorneys were granted permission to recover the portion that
 might bear traces of the explosive used, that portion of the bunker
ceiling was found to be missing. Gen. Partin concludes the rudimentary gunpowder
possessed by the Branch Davidians would not have been capable of blowing
 that hole through six inches of reinforced concrete. Special Forces Sgt.
Steven Barry reports the damage inside the records vault was "consistent
 with a shaped charge," as does retired USAF ordnance engineer Col. Jack
 Frost.

   "In military operations, it's standard procedure to do this," Barry
 explains, in order to reduce casualties among the attacking forces.

   The FBI's White House contact during the Waco operation was
presidential aide Vince Foster, who committed suicide 90 days later. His widow
told
the FBI that the Waco tragedy was "very high on his list of concerns." She
says he told the FBI he "believed everything was his fault," though Foster
also commented: "The FBI lied to me."

   After his suicide, the White House kept the Department of Justice and
the Parks Police from reviewing Foster's files. Witnesses saw Maggie
Williams
-- Hillary Clinton's chief of staff -- removing Waco files from Foster's
 office. The staff was told "The contents of the box needed to be
reviewed by the First Lady."

   Sgt. Barry of the Special Forces: "If the Special Combat Applications
 Group were on the ground that day actually pulling triggers, the origin
of that operation would have come from the White House. It would have come
 from the president. Because the Special Combat Applications Group is,
for all intents and purposes, the president's private army."

   So: The ATF, the FBI, and the Army Combat Applications Group (the
"Delta Force" -- which can only have been dispatched to the scene by the
special authorization of William Jefferson Clinton) stand accused of murder at
 Waco.   Why are there still no trials?

   "Waco: A New Revelation" is $30.90 postpaid. Dial 1-877-GET-WACO; or
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 Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas
 Review-Journal. His new book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the
 Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available at $24.95 postpaid from
Mountain Media, P.O. Box 271122, Las Vegas, Nev. 89127; by dialing
1-800-244-2224;
 or via web site http://www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html.

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