-Caveat Lector- .............................................................. >From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Lloyd Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "New Paradigms Discussion" Subject: Russian Sub Rescue Delays Were No Accident Date: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:06 PM http://www.sierratimes.com/arcn082800.htm http://www.sierratimes.com/arcn082800.htm An Internet Publication for Real Americans Monday, August 28, 2000 | 8:03 PM Russian Sub Rescue Delays Were No Accident News Analysis by Chuck Norton - Posted: 08.28.00 Our hearts poured out and we all said a prayer for the crew of the Russian Missile Submarine Kursk as it sat 500 feet under water. I found it curious that the Russian military leaders and Russian President Putin stayed on holiday while the first days of the Kursk saga lingered on. Let�s examine the list of events after the explosion. These events point to a conclusion that is as clear as the nose on your face. The Russians said that another vessel had collided with the Kursk. Was this a lie to hide the second biggest secret of this whole mess? First the Russians said that the weather would not allow their sub to perform, then they said that when the Russian mini sub went to latch on they could not get the hatch open because it was too badly damaged. Russian Deputy Prime Minister Ilya Klebanov, leading an inquiry into the sinking, said the hatch was so badly damaged it would be impossible for the British rescue sub in the area to open it. Norwegian divers with cameras have shown us that this was a lie. The hatch was in good shape indeed. Norwegian spokesman John Espen Lien said later: "It is in a fair condition. We think it should be possible to open it with a British or Russian capsule." The Russians said that the Norwegian divers found no sign of air pockets in the sub. In rebuttal, the divers said that not only where there signs of air pockets, but there was air in the airlock below the hatch as well. The Russians also said that the currents made rescue difficult and that visibility was almost zero at the sub. Yet Norwegian and British rescuers said that there were no visibility problems at all and that heavy water currents weren�t encountered; another diver in the rescue team said that getting to the hatch and opening it was �easy.� The Norwegians claimed that the Russians hampered and interfered in the rescue effort at every turn and ordered the divers to stay away from the front of the sub. The Norwegian military commander in charge of the divers who were eventually allowed to approach the nuclear submarine became so frustrated at Russian misinformation that he nearly called off the rescue effort. Rear-Admiral Einar Skorgen, head of the Armed Forces in Northern Norway and in charge of the diving mission, said that he was "furious" at the Russians for giving the wrong information about the submarine and hampering the rescue effort. In an interview with a Norwegian newspaper, Nordlandsposten, Admiral Skorgen said: "At times, there were so many wrong details and disinformation from Russia that it was close to endangering the divers. We couldn't rely on the information we were getting." Paddy Heron, a member of the British team sent out to the Barents Sea with the LR5 submersible, said that he and the others had been "revolted" to hear the Russians claim that they had done everything they could to help the Kursk. "We had one of the most sophisticated vessels available in Europe sitting at the wreck site with a submersible specifically designed to rescue men from submarines, but the Russians wouldn't allow us to use it," Mr. Heron said in an interview with BBC Scotland. So the next question is why? Why would the Russians see to it that all on board would not be rescued in time to have a story to tell? One of the many speculative explanations for Russia's reluctance to allow Western divers on board the Kursk was that it was armed with a new weapon system and that they were afraid the British and Norwegian experts might be spies. According to the Sunday-Times of England that is indeed the case. Last night, news broke that two civilian experts from a Russian military plant were conducting secret munitions tests aboard the Kursk submarine. Rustam Usmanov, head of the Dagdizel military plant on the Caspian Sea, told The Sunday-Times that his chief engineer had been on the Kursk to monitor weapons tests. Mamed Gadzhiyev, a veteran weapons designer with Dagdizel, and Arnold Borisov, another employee of the plant, were among the 118 men who died. Was this a weapons test gone horribly bad? Russian claims of an underwater collision so far haven�t been backed up with evidence. Anthony Watts, editor of Jane's Underwater Warfare Systems, said Russian claims of a collision were disinformation. "There are 10 watertight compartments in that class of submarine. It can withstand flooding of two or three compartments and remain afloat." Another reason to blame exploding munitions was that the Kursk's periscope was extended indicating that it was at periscope depth when the accident happened and that is the proper depth for launching a torpedo. A collision certainly could not account for the explosions detected by a Norwegian seismic institute at 11.28am and 11.39am Russian time (0728 and 0739 GMT) on August 12, the second of which registered 3.5 on the Richter scale. "This was the single most powerful explosion we have ever registered in this area," said Frode Ringdair, a scientific adviser to the institute. The Russians have claimed that no rockets or missiles were on board the Kursk, however, a letter written by a crew member to his mother, which arrived the day the vessel went down, said: "We are sitting in port, loading up rockets." According to the Sunday-Times, Western experts say they believe the Russian navy was upgrading the Squall, a torpedo that can reach speeds of 200 knots. It is unique because it travels in a gas capsule, which reduces friction with the surrounding water. The Squall uses propellers to boost it out of the sub, then a rocket kicks in at a safe distance, burning liquid propellant," said one British expert. "The danger is if the second stage fires inside the submarine. Then you can say goodnight." It is also possible that the Russians are testing a torpedo launched cruise missile that exits the water and goes airborne to locate an enemy sub and enters the water again to attack. Either way the liquid rocket propellant could have ignited early and then set off the warhead. That could explain the two blasts detected by the Norwegian Seismic Institute. New weapons system or not, the Russians are acting like they have something to hide and the high price of this secret continues to grow. We know that all of the delays were lies and interference designed to ensure that no rescue would be in time to save the crew of the Kurst. Dead men tell no tales. It�s sickening that President Putin and the Russian Government considered 118 of it�s best to be expendable. 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