-Caveat Lector- ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Scientists I.D. Christ's fingerprint - Nonsense of Achyara S and S... > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 9/24/00 9:04:47 PM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > OH DEARY ME! Poor old WILLIE is a tad ruffled again! But then, that tends to happen to the mentally incarcerated in their own shallow and blind dogma. So once again, we ask poor old doddering WILLIE, where exactly are his refutations of previous rebuttals to the outright and outlandish LIES of his spiritual guru Achyara ? NOWHERE to be seen, just more conceited Willie rhetoric, lets have a further read below. And why has Willie so long played the pseudo liberal ere this, and not had the courage to reveal his hidden Gnostic agenda here? > << All it really shows, and all she really knows, is how to disseminate lies > and disinfo to the subject illiterate cultists, and ill-informed bigots like > you Shannon. >> > > She simply and effectively shows that the inspiration for your particular > cult, one Jesus Christ, was a fabrication based upon older myths and > fables...that's all. > Her site www.truthbeknown.com speaks for itself and will easily counter your > hysterical ravings. Willie, your worshipful spiritual phoney fakir, only effectively demonstrates that she is a liar, or at best completely ignorant of the historic facts and evidence. She also confuses, as but one example, historically State sponsored terrorism via the Vatican, with the teachings of the Bible and Jesus Christ, the twain are a universe apart. No one that is supposedly as intelligent as she boasts and professes to be, could be THAT ignorant and not be able to distinguish between the two, yet she constantly confuses and muddles both by her deliberate obfuscations. Hence, I say that your guru is a more likely a deliberate disinfo agent. The Papacy in fact burnt, destroyed and sought to eradicate the very manifesto of true Christianity - the Bible. Your guru is highly confused at best. In the same manner, your holy guru does the work of the Vatican, but merely employs more subtle methods and lies to do so - are you so blind to this Willie? Why would the Vatican wish to eradicate the authority of the Bible Willie? Why would these neo-Gnostics with their inherent Gnostic Jew hate do the Vatican's work? Have you ever studied the TRUE tenets of Gnosticism Willie? Have you ever considered why many of such adepts praise the Nazis as did the Vatican align itself with Nazi Germany? Have you ever looked at the similarity in doctrine to these neo-Gnostic New Agers and the third Reich Willie? As much as you THINK you know Willie, there is a lot you are completely ignorant of. > > <<Cleary, when examined against the evidence, her work is one of pure > dis-information and has more to with raking in the hard earned savings of > gullible fools who require on-going stimulation for their ridiculous fear of > life and the world as a whole.>> > > Actually the people raking in the "hard-earned savings" of the gullible are > those who call themselves churches and have preyed upon human weakness and > insecurity for millenia. Agreed, and this is true in many cases, but not in all and every case. It is however undoubtedly the case with reference to your sacred cow guru whom you blindly worship, not even being fully cognizant of what is being peddled Willie. In fact, you are completely out of your league here Willie. You got conned, and conned good wee Willie, better than by any slick Tele-Evangelist, because like the gullible churchocrats, your guru merely appeals to your own particular paranoid style of superstition. You really should check into this stuff, honestly - it's not as harmless, nor "liberating" as they like to sell you. > > <<As I said, and now Shannon confirms, the author of this piece of charlatanry > is merely out to rake in the bucks any way she can with her ridiculous and > grandiose FICTIONS, because fiction in today's world, most oft sells best.>> > > With the bible being the king of all fictions and the greatest con-job in > history. This is clearly a complete falsehood. How anyone could be so unsophisticated and prattle such unhistorical garbage in the modern world is incomprehensible. You ought to examine some of the links and references I supplied to familiarise yourself with the facts rather than relying on invalidated data from long dead and ill-informed sceptics and conspiracy theory nutters wishing to sell books and attempt make a name for themselves. Such invariably are given over to their egomania and will say and print any kind of worthless and demented froth to satiate their weak egos. I can't believe you are as dumb as that not to have seen through her bunkum. > > <<You seem extremely ruffled > that someone dared to question one of your sacred cows, and expose your guru > for the fraud she is. >> > > LOL!! It's the fact that your sacred cow has been gored by truth that started > your harangue and namecalling...and the abuse that you and your cohorts have > heaped upon Acharya is proof positive that you are fearful. I think your unsolicited SPAM e-mail thoroughly demonstrates that you are as frightened as a startled rat scuttling down a sewer drain that anyone dared to question the baloney you posted without even checking it. You couldn't answer the rebuttals made against that shyster guru of yours, so all you have left is your wounded bloodied ego by which to limp-wrist wave and mewl in response. > > <<You are a bigot, and are one of the most > profoundly blind religionist bigots I have yet come across.>> > > Well you're still a mere lad so I'm certain you'll meet many more that you > feel the need to abuse and attack...people who differ from you undoubtedly > and point out the fallacies of the mental prison you've chosen to lock > yourself away in. I think the fact that I bothered to read and investigate the baloney your sacred holy-cow Gnostic guru regurgitates, whilst you have advertised your ignorance and froth of alternative views, suggests that it is you in fact that is incarcerated with a mental-padlock and an extremely dogmatic and cloistered mindset. Are you perhaps a Catholic priest by profession, many such seem to inanely ramble on as you do? > > Again, http://www.truthbeknown.com/christcon.htm ........find out what riles > up the blind religionist!! > > Bill. I think people can judge for themselves who is riled and ruffled. Your rude, bilious and unsolicited SPAM e-mail suggests you are an extremely disturbed individual, who feels his dogma cannot be questioned, and when Willie and his never-to-be-questioned holy mullahs teachings are shown to be fraudulent, Willie resorts to personal abuse via my PRIVATE e-mail gateway. Some "neighbour" this guy would make eh folks? Tossing his inane psychotic manure over his fence and into your PRIVATE yard. Once again, for those that desire GENUINE, thoughtful considerations of the issues, or for those that are interested in sound refutation of Shannon's guru's nonsense above, which Shannon has fallen for hook-line-and sinker, Bookmark the following, and have a casual peruse as you find time, they are very informative, and give a balanced appraisal without the extreme bias and oft outlandish lies promulgated by arch mythmakers like Willie Shannon and et al. http://www.cet.com/~dlavoie/solo.christo/theology/Bible.html http://www.christian-thinktank.com/hway.html http://www.carm.org/objections.htm http://www.watchman.org/slipslop.htm http://www.tektonics.org/ http://www.christiananswers.net/ http://probe.org/index.html Suggested reading written by serious scholars and researchers: The Historical Reliability of the Gospels by Craig L. Blomberg The Historical Jesus : Ancient Evidence for the Life of Christ by Gary R. Habermas Jesus Under Fire by Michael J. Wilkins (Editor), James Porter Moreland Reasonable Faith : Christian Truth and Apologetics by William Lane Craig Christian Apologetics by Norman L. Geisler The Gospel and the Greeks : Did the New Testament Borrow from Pagan Thought? by Ronald H. Nash Archaeology and the New Testament by John McRay > > <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > ========== > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! 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