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I'd say that Samantha summed it up pretty well here.  It is taken as given that the 
two are intertwined, and what has it gotten anyone?  There is never any evidence to 
present only peoples testimony that something did occur.  It could be all a bunch of 
mis-perceptions, hoaxes, and fraud, as well as signs of mental illness.  There 
undoubtedly is much of all that involved somewhere but I still think there is a lot of 
truth to the relayed memories.
There are many connections between the occult and the Intel.  There is a desire for 
control of radical movements and fringe belief systems which could potentially be 
threats to the country and which means that groups are infiltrated and controlled.  
There is a desire to study controlling systems in order to effectively use these same 
systems for their own mind control efforts.  There are others but these two examples 
should be enough to indicate why the Intel. world would almost HAVE TO be involved.


On Tue, 03 October 2000, "Samantha L." wrote:

>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>   The anecdotal evidence, from survivor accounts I've come across over the
> years, is that many/most make an intel connection to their ritual abuse
> experiences.  Dr. Bennett Braun documented many such accounts from survivors
> who linked their perps to national senators, CEO's of Fortune 500 companies
> and members of the intelligence community.  He started to give such accounts
> credibility when they fell under the rules of 3, 4 or 5 - when 3 or more
> survivors who didn't know each other named the same prominent person.
>
>   Constantine cites a marriage between intel and satanic cults beginning in
> the early 60's, as a trade-off:  protection of cult members from prosecutions
> in exchange for info on mind-control techniques.  He wrote about this in
> "Psychcic Dictatorship" but his reference for this was only a speech given by
> someone else.  More than one survivor believes the marriage occurred long
> before the early 60's.
>
>   There is no hard evidence that I am aware of - as there rarely is where
> covert ops are concerned.  I take it as a given that there is a profound
> connection between the two, and proceed from there.  But so what?  It hasn't
> helped me get anywhere with it.  If we had full accountability with
> Congressional oversight for each penny spent on covert ops, we might get
> somewhere.  But the inmates are still running the asylum.
>
> Samantha
>
> In a message dated 10/3/00 11:19:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Hi -
> >
> >  I'm curious what people think about occult belief systems operating
> >  within the intelligence community? The famous Aquino/satanism case has
> >  always interested me, that something so strange and twisted really
> >  happened. Also, I've often wondered if any of the occult Nazi beliefs
> >  operating during World War II perhaps bled over to America during
> >  Paperclip? (After all, didn't Aquino perform some weird satanic rite
> >  while visiting Germany?)
> >
> >  Aside from the Aquino saga, I've only heard rumors and conspiracy
> >  theories involving Montauk, mind-control, and maybe Jack Parsons group
> >  at JPL during the 1960s. Is there any hard evidence that this is
> >  widespread, or is it the exception to the rule?
> >
> >  thanks
>
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