-Caveat Lector- : Actually, people can say whatever they want whenever they want without : hesitation. No reason for anyone to "tread on that aspect very, very : lightly" unless you're afraid of discussing it. Well, that's your : problem if so. But prominent modern Jewish authors like Abba Eban, : Raphael Patai, Peter Golden, Alexander Beider, Eli Valley, Abraham : Harkavy, Abraham Poliak, and Rabbi Benjamin Blech, and Shmuel : Cygielman -- just to name a few -- have acknowledged that the Khazars : formed PART of the ancestry of East European Jewry, even if this : component is somewhat smaller than other elements. The Khazar theory : originated as a Jewish concept among Harkavy, Gumplowitz, Schipper, and : other Polish Jewish historians and continues to be a legitimate subject : today. If you would acknowledge that IT DOESN'T MATTER what the : origins are of people who live in modern Israel then you could learn to : accept that there is no "purity of race" among modern Jews. The notion : that Jews are a pure race is straight out of Nazi Germany, and I can : find just as many people who argue against the Khazar theory who are : anti-Arab bigots and "Jews for Jesus" and other hate and cult groups. : The mere fact that a certain faction believes a certain idea doesn't : make it true or false. The idea needs to be evaluated on its own : merits and weaknesses ALONE. : Learn to deal with the fact that there was significant intermarriage : and conversion in Jewish history. Then you wouldn't have to come up : with fake "non-mixing" explanations of how so many European Jews are : blond-haired and blue-eyed, and you wouldn't have to deny history and : archaeology which clearly shows that the Khazars converted to Judaism : in significant numbers. : Statistical evaluation of the genetic study by PNAS, by Daniel Friedman : http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/friedman.html : Russian Jewish Genetics: abstracts and summaries demonstrating that : there is no consensus on the issue and a lot of unresolved questions : http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html : Are Russian Jews Descended from the Khazars? Evidence for widespread : Judaism among the Khazars, quotes from multitudes of recognized Jewish : authorities in support of the Khazar theory : http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-diaspora.html : If you disagree, then tell me WHAT IS THE FATE OF THE KIEVAN RUS JEWS : of the 11th-13th centuries, whom scholars agree are of Khazarian : origin? Do you deny that they met up with other Jews? Do you deny : that they studied in western Jewish academies in England, Germany, and : Spain? And don't you realize that no population close to the Khazars : was tested in Dr. Hammer's PNAS study? Any study that claims to : measure population distance against Khazars and other groups that only : tests Russians, Anatolian Turks, Lebanese, and Greeks is rather : incomplete and skewed. Of course European Jews of different varieties : are more related to each other than to Russians - that's a strawman : test. Where's the tests against Khazar bones and North Caucasian : peoples and Central Asian Turks? There aren't any, are there? Just : admit it, there aren't any, so Koestler hasn't been proven either right : or wrong. Even Leonard Glick, in his book "Abraham's Heirs", which : alleges that Franco-Rhenish Jews represent almost the entirety of : modern East European Jewry, acknowledges that anthropologically Jews : are a lot like Europeans due to genetic mixture. : Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ : Before you buy. <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'�with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds�is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
