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Don't you think a "tit-for-tat" approach is the only one that is justified in this
discussion. No group of people or religious philosophy has a corner of wanting to
"run the world" or get power for themselves and their own group. And just what do you
mean that jews have a "particularly jewish" way of doing the things that they do. It
sounds like you are the one who has a problem, and it is with the Jews.
On Sat, 07 October 2000, Justine Blake wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> I have a question here. In reading the dialog below, I notice that (is it
> "tenorlove"?) whenever something negative is said about the jews, tenorlove
> is very quick to point out the similarities with the Christians, Islams,
> Buddhists, etc, i.e. the "tit-for-tat" thing.
>
> BUT otherwise, tenorlove has posted plain old pro-jewish propaganda about
> how superior the jews are to all religions, as long as no one is saying
> anything to the contrary.
>
> This jewish idea of the superiority of the jews, and their racist behavior
> of separating themselves from the unklean Gentiles, is I suppose the
> foremost reason why the highly intelligent and verbose Michael J. Hoffman
> looks deeper into the underlying jewish babylonian mind.
>
> Given the propensity of the jews to seek their every advantage in all things
> in the particularly jewish way jews have of doing this, and what they
> believe about the unklean Gentiles, I think we do need people like Michael
> J. Hoffman and many, many others, if only in order to counteract the jewish
> wish to kontrol the world, if given half a chance, and enrich themselves
> ever more.
> Justine
>
>
>
>
> <<<<I stand by my interpretation of the site as a piece of anti-Semitic
> disinformation, and a badly written one at that...... Schneerson died
> in 1994, and as of today, still has not risen...... kinda puts the
> kabosh on any claim of him being the Messiah.
>
> > Jewish
> > "God" and His "Laws" must be fairly impotent since human civilization
> > is now
> > largely founded upon The New Testament, via Anglo-Protestant USA,
>
> Does this include China, Japan, France, Italy, Greece, etc., or are
> they not civilizations?
>
> > of Judaism, not Christianity? Judaic law, talmudic and otherwise, is
> > perfect?
>
> The Jewish laws are set down in the Torah, also known as the Pentateuch
> or the Five Books of Moses, to Christians. The Talmud is non-binding
> rabbinical commentary.
>
> > lived just over the next hill? Since this Lubavitcher is so
> > fundamentalist,
> > I suppose s/he believes Christian civilization is to be destroyed
>
> Being that he is still dead, I don't know that he can believe in much
> of anything.
>
> > all Christians "worship Jesus instead of God." Thus, is
> > marxist-leninism
> > really a Judaic politikal means to this babylonian talmudic end?
>
> marxist-leninism is atheistic: that means they don't believe ANY God
> exists.
>
> A
> > lot of
> > data are available that seem to point to this possibility: the
> > 3,500-year
> > old religion of Judaism teaches that idol worshippers are to be
> > exterminated
> > from the face of the Earth as quickly as possible by any and all
> > means
> > possible, exactly what marxist-leninism also decrees about
> > Christians.
>
> And every other religion, including Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc.
>
> > Since
> > Judaism teaches that all Christians are idol worshippers (along with
> > everyone
> > else in the world who is not Jewish), what do orthodox Jews, such as
> > Sen.
> > LIEberman, actually believe?
>
> Why don't you ask him?
>
> > So, "laws" that applied to the Bronze Age also apply to the Space Age
> > and
> > thermonuclear warfare? Nothing changes? A cigar is always just a
> > cigar?
> > How absurd. What a brood of vipers haughtily making busy with their
> > scales
> > as they measure tit for tat according to their own manner of
> > self-righteousness.
>
> Are you saying that the Bible is changeable to fit the times? Hmmmm,
> maybe that's where Klinton got his modus vivendi.
>
> > >In Deuteronomy 17, this false prophet is also described as someone
> > who
> > would
> > >rebel against the authority of the judges of the Jewish people, and
> > who
> > >should be put to death for his rebelliousness (v. 8-13, esp. v. 12).
>
> Jesus was crucified, a penalty reserved strictly for rebels against the
> ROMAN occupiers of Judea. Had Jesus blasphemed against Judaism, they
> would have stoned him to death, not turned him over to Rome. Can't be
> Jesus being referred to.
>
> > sinless? How absurd. If they were so sinless, why then the need for
> > a
> > Messiah?
>
> The Messiah, in Judaism, is not considered a Savior in the Christian
> sense. He was expected to be the one to liberate the Jews from Roman
> domination.
>
> But the false prophet would
> > challenge the
> > >authority of the Sanhedrin, thus revealing himself to be an evil
> > man.
>
> See above.
>
> > their forefathers. I am so very sick of religious fundamentalism and
> > its
> > "horned" boogymen and its own manners of self-righteousness.
>
> Does this include Christian and Islamic fundamentalism?
>
> ALL Old
> > Testament prophesy became obsolete in AD 70 with the destruction of
> > Jerusalem, according to the "curse" of Malachi 4:6.
>
> Which reads: (verse 5, for context): Behold, I will send you Elijah the
> prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
> (v.6) And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and
> the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the
> earth with a curse. Not a word about OT prophecy, or the destruction of
> the Temple.
>
> > This
> > "learned" wo/man is seriously pondering what a middle eastern tribal
> > prophet
> > mused some 2,600-years ago. Okay. Talk about living in the past,
> > even
> > worshipping the past.
>
> This would include most practitioners of the world's major religions.
>
> > According to Jews who worship the idol of their now damned religion.
> > What
> > is:
> > God
> > / \
> > Adam Eve
>
> > Hmmm. Could it be a trinity? What would Adam and Eve have become if
> > they
> > had not fallen? The Image of God and the Spiritual Parents of
> > Humankind in
> > the Kingdom of Heaven ON Earth?
>
> That's the Mormons, not the Jews.
>
> > Lord Jesus did not suffer fools easily, and especially haughty
> > religious
> > fools and their petty "religious" beliefs, er, I mean opinion, i.e.
> > "laws."
>
> I didn't know Jesus and Schneerson knew each other.
>
> > Kosher laws are the result of a more ignorant, "unclean" age. Some
> > have
> > theorized that the "law" against eating pork, for instance, really
> > has to do
> > with the fact that pork tastes very much like human flesh. Now, if
> > one has
> > developed a taste for loin of pork and a famine arises, might one's
> > neighbor's children begin to look very tasty?
>
> Pork was forbidden because it was known to make people ill at times.
> Today modern science has identified the Trichina parasite that causes
> this.
>
> > We are all one family, and our only parent is God. If Mary was such
> > a good
> > "Jewish mother," then why isn't her presence apparent in nearly every
> > Gospel
> > verse? Mary thought Jesus insane, that's why.
>
> Which Bible verse declares this?
>
> Not even His Own
> > mother
> > supported His Ministry.
>
> That explains her presence at the wedding in Cana, where AT HER URGING
> Jesus performed his first miracle, and her presence at the Crucifixion,
> and her going down to the tomb with the other women to anoint Jesus'
> body.
>
> > This is like saying that Hitler though Jews were merely impolite.
> > Tell us
> > about the babylonian talmudic teaching concerning Lord Jesus and
> > Judas
> > flying
> > around in the air, fighting with one another, and pissing on one
> > another.
>
> Why don't YOU tell us? Book, chapter, verse.
>
>
> > File this with the babylonian talmudic teaching that Lord Jesus is in
> > hell
> > for all eternity immersed up to his neck in a pit of boiling sewage.
>
> Again, book, chapter, verse.
>
> > What a
> > crock. This is from the same folks that teach that Lord Jesus was a
> > Roman
> > soldier's bastard via a hairdresser whore.
>
> This is from Roman sources, not Jewish.
>
> This from a person who
> > believes
> > it is unGodly to allow women to sit next to men in sin-agog.
>
> Muslims also segregate men and women. Is it sinful for them to do so?
>
>
> > Excuse me, don't you mean "Jehovah?" Or is that Yahweh? What is the
> > name
> > of
> > the god of the Jews since even Moses himself had to ask what "god" he
> > was
> > speaking to? (Ex. 3:13)
>
> Moses, having grown up in Egypt, had been exposed to Egyptian
> polytheism.
>
> > So rabbinical mediators don't separate man from God?
>
> So Christian priests and ministers don't separate man from God?
>
>
> > This is so twisted I cannot continue.
>
> Is this a threat or a promise?
>
> What a benighted understanding
> > of
> > "God." Law is dispassionate, graceless. However, God is first and
> > foremost
> > our Loving Father of Grace and Compassion. Therefore, what does God
> > really
> > have to do with those who only worship His supposedly unforgiving
> > "law?"
>
> OK, if Hitler or Stalin, or someone like that asked God for forgiveness
> on his deathbed, would he go to heaven?
>
> The "spiritual leadership" of some Russian ASHkeNAZI
> > marxist-leninists created the modern "science" of concentration
> > camps. What
> > goes around, comes around. Preach hatred, and one is soon forced to
> > also
> > drink of the bitter wine of that cup of satan.
>
> <passes glass through screen>
>
> > Read on - it's just more of the same sophistic casuistry to deny the
> > obvious.
> > Now, how are the Lubavitchers going to pull off Schneerson's
> > "resurrection?"
> > God Save us from that stinking little racist and the vipers
> > slithering along
> > behind me according to their own manner of "holiness."
>
> <passes mirror through screen>
>
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