-Caveat Lector- 10-13-00 Barak's government won't last much longer and there will be new elections. The Likud was forced out of power by the US. They would not play along with the phony peace process as the Labor Party did. What is happening today is a direct result of American meddling in Israel's internal affairs. The " Oslo Peace Plan " was nothing more than a cover for the establishment of a Middle East NAFTA. But to do that, they needed to nullify the Palestinian problem. Without a Palestinian Problem, there is no visible reason to rally around the destruction of Israel. The elites of the Arab world would benefit greatly from a Mid East Nafta. That has been the carrot all along. Israel's economy would be the driving economy for the region. The West got all there puppets together including their newest one Arafat. They chose Arafat because he was a loser and on his way out as the " Head of the Palestinians." He was promised a state, any form of state, at the end of the process. And lots of money to salt into Swiss accounts for himself and his henchmen. In the end, he couldn't swing the deal. Because the deal was impossible. If he gave in on all the most important Palestinian issues, he wouldn't have long to live. He chose to make Jerusalem his stand. By doing this, Arafat who is about as religious as I am, turned it into a religious conflict which has ignited the whole Muslim world. THERE IS NO RETREAT FROM RELIGIOUS CONFLICTS. The little shit is gambling with the world. This is an act of both desperation and an utter disregard for lives of his own people. The Palestinians didn't get much, and the Israelis are now in a much LESS secure position than before. Understand this...Both sides were betrayed by their elites. Because of this, they are both more vulnerable. This is an extremely dangerous situation. In a confrontation Israel will win militarily and the Palestinians will face their worst time yet. If there is a war, they may get wiped out by Israel and Jordan. That's not the worst of it. If the war escalates into a regional war, then the possibilities are boundless. This includes nuclear war. No matter which side you choose to back, for whatever reason, DON'T FEED THE FLAMES. You need to put your feelings aside and understand what is really going on here. By blindly backing one side, you add gas to the fire. Israel will not go away. That is a fact. The only way it will disappear is if it losses on the ground. If that happens you too can kiss your ass good-bye. When Israel was loosing the 1973 war ( until Gen Sharon turned it around )it had its nukes at ready. A nuclear country about to be over run has NOTHING TO LOSE. Do you understand? Every thinking person must prevent this scenario from playing out. We must ALL be anti war, not just pro Palestinian or pro Israel. Joshua2 ===================== Aaron Lerner Date: 13 October, 2000 Gallup - Ma'ariv The following are the results of a survey of a representative sample of adult Israeli (both Jews and Arabs) carried out by Gallup on the evening of Wednesday 11 October. Sampling error +/- 4.5 percentage points: If elections were held today: 11 Oct. 2000 Barak 30% Netanyahu 46% [Israel burning/before lynch] 4 Oct. 2000 Barak 32% Netanyahu 41% [Israel burning] 27 Sept 2000 Barak 38% Netanyahu 42% [case closed on Netanyahu] 13 Sept 2000 Barak 38% Netanyahu 39% 6 Sept 2000 Barak 41% Netanyahu 38% De'eri jail,Min.Religion closing 16 Aug 2000 Barak 38% Netanyahu 43% 2 Aug 2000 Barak 40% Netanyahu 43% 26 Jly 2000 Barak 43% Netanyahu 38% [talks fail] 19 Jly 2000 Barak 39% Netanyahu 40% [talks in stalemate] 12 Jly 2000 Barak 36% Netanyahu 39% 5 July 2000 Barak 39% Netanyahu 41% [talks announced] 28 Jun 2000 Barak 36% Netanyahu 44% 21 Jun 2000 Barak 40% Netanyahu 42% [middle of resignations] 14 Jun 2000 Barak 46% Netanyahu 39% 31 May 2000 Barak 41% Netanyahu 41% 24 May 2000 Barak 42% Netanyahu 37% [just left Lebanon] 19 May 2000 Barak 45% Netanyahu 38% 15 Apr 2000 Barak 42% Netanyahu 39% 05 Apr 2000 Barak 40% Netanyahu 37% 31 Mar 2000 Barak 42.5% Netanyahu 42.4% 1 Mar 2000 Barak 50% Netanyahu 34% 9 Feb 2000 Barak 42% Netanyahu 37% 2 Feb 2000 Barak 45% Netanyahu 36% 19 Nov 1999 Barak 50% Netanyahu 33% 8 Oct 1999 Barak 56% Netanyahu 26% 14 Aug 1999 Barak 50% Netanyahu 29% 25 Jun 1999 Barak 59% Netanyahu 27% 11 Oct 2000 Barak 36% Sharon 36% 4 Oct 2000 Barak 37% Sharon 32% 27 Sept 2000 Barak 39% Sharon 34% 13 Sept 2000 Barak 39% Sharon 32% 6 Sept 2000 Barak 43% Sharon 31% 16 Aug 2000 Barak 41% Sharon 38% 2 Aug 2000 Barak 41% Sharon 35% 26 Jly 2000 Barak 45% Sharon 30% 19 Jly 2000 Barak 44% Sharon 36% 19 Jly 2000 Barak 44% Sharon 36% 12 Jly 2000 Barak 42% Sharon 33% 5 July 2000 Barak 44% Sharon 31% 28 Jun 2000 Barak 41% Sharon 37% 21 Jun 2000 Barak 43% Sharon 34% 14 Jun 2000 Barak 50% Sharon 35% 31 May 2000 Barak 44% Sharon 35% 24 May 2000 Barak 43% Sharon 35% 19 May 2000 Barak 43% Sharon 36% 15 Apr 2000 Barak 43% Sharon 31% Do you support or oppose continuing the peace process with the Palestinians? Yes 63% No 32% Do not know 5% Are you satisfied with the way Prime Minister Ehud Barak is handling the crisis with the Palestinians? Yes 21% No 70% Do not know 9% Barak voters: Yes 33% No 54% In your opinion, do we have a peace partner on the Palestinain side? Yes 27% No 62% Do not know 11% Jews: Yes 19% No 70% Arabs Yes 90% No 6% What in your opinion will happen in the end? 32% The conflict between Israel and the Palestinians gets worse 46% The crisis will end and a peace agreement between the two sides will be signed 22% Do not know Dou you understand the feelings of the Jews who rioted this week against Israeli Arabs? Yes 73% No 25% Do not know 2% What in your opinion is the greatest danger to the future of the State 17% Conflict with the Palestinians 70% Conflict between the Jews and Arabs inside the country 13% Do not know Do you support the establishment of a national emergency government? 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