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In addition, Chris Ruddy and Joe Farah appear to have blackouts on any
Chemtrail or Votescam stories.
>From: Gavin Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [CTRL] Farah, Ruddy & the OKC Bombing
>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:31:57 EDT
>
>-Caveat Lector-
>
>Hello All,
>
>Devvy Kidd's David Crockett article is a fascinating story and a great
>lesson
>in how even the most scrupulously honest person can be blindsided. Which
>nicely segways into a posting I made to Freerepublic about four months ago.
>It addressed a question that had rankled me for some time.
>
>Why is there virtually no information about the Oklahoma City bombing on
>Joe
>Farah's and Chris Ruddy's websites? As I state at the end, there are no
>"sacred cows" in my pursuit of the truth in any matter. Comments anybody?
>Gavin Phillips.
>
>
>
>J.Farah (WND) Remains Mute/OKC Bombing
>
>For anybody who has spent a few hours researching the Oklahoma City bombing
>knows that the governemnt/mainstream media story is 98% baloney.
>Officially, two men (only McVeigh on the day of the bombing) and a
>home-brew
>ANFO truck bomb. (and "others" unknown)
>
>This production by the Clinton regime is one of the biggest disinformation
>coups ever perpetrated on the American people. I have researched this
>incident in great detail. The Oklahoma City bombing is the most
>Machiavellian orchestrated government incident in several decades, in my
>opinion at least as mendacious as Waco.
>
>I like Worldnetdaily and Joe Farah. He does a very good job, sometimes an
>outstanding job, in exposing the head to toenail corruption in the
>Clinton/Hillary/Reno dictatorship. One thing has stuck in my craw though,
>why
>is there nothing on Worldnetdaily about the massive government duplicity in
>the Oklahoma bombing? I ignored it. It must be an oversight, right? Or
>maybe
>I just wanted to believe that.
>
>When I heard about Hugh Turley's banning on Freerepublic for posting his
>opinion about Chris Ruddy, Joe Farah and Matt Drudge , I decided to ask
>some questions. I e-mailed Joe Farah and asked him why he has ignored the
>bombing. Our brief correspondence is below.
>
>
> Hello Joe,
>
>A search of your website returned no in depth articles regarding the
>governments lies and duplicity regarding the Oklahoma City bombing. You
>tentatively place half a toe in with your article 'We knew this was going
>to
>happen' 2 reserve deputies testify about Oklahoma City bombing" which is
>unsigned. There is far more
>evidence of government prior knowledge than this.
>
>
>" The New American" http://thenewamerican.com/focus/okc/index.htm
>magazine has followed this case from the beginning and has pointed out in
>several articles the many large credibility gaps in the
>government/mainstream
>media version of events which is supposedly two men, one on the day of the
>bombing and a "home-brew" fertilizer truck bomb.
>
>There have been several good books published documenting the lies and
>cover-up in this incident, such as David Hoffman's' "The Oklahoma City
>Bombing and the Politics of Terror," Michele Marie Moore's "Oklahoma
>City:Day One," Jim Keith's
> "Okbomb! : Conspiracy and Cover-Up " Ambrose Evans-Pritchard's "The
>Secret
>Life of Bill Clinton" in which he dedicates about a 100 pages to the
>bombing.
>Yet nothing of substance on your site. Why? Curiously, Gavin Phillips.
>
>
>Joe Farah replies;
>
>We have a limited reporting staff, which NEVER regurgitates reporting by
>others. To commit to investigating the Oklahoma City bombing cover-up
>is a major commitment of time and resources. There are many important
>stories
>we are not able to cover. You cite much good work that has been done on
>this
>story. I agree. Would you have us plough the same ground? Or should we
>focus
>our efforts on reporting no one else is doing? We have chosen the latter.
>
>JF
>
>
>I reply;
>
>Hello Joe,
>
>My reply to your e-mail is below. Gavin.
>
> << We have a limited reporting staff, which NEVER regurgitates reporting
>by
> others.
>
>
>You are not saying that all of your stories are exclusives, are you Joe? In
>many of your articles I have seen similar information on other news
>websites, or via mailing lists that I am on. You can still give a
>different
>viewpoint and new
>facts on the same event. Where does regurgitating leave off Joe and citing
>work by others begin?
>
>
> Joe;
> To commit to investigating the Oklahoma City bombing cover-up is a major
>commitment of time and resources. There are many important stories we are
>not
>able to cover.
>
>
>Gavin;
>Excuse me? The Oklahoma City bombing story is not important enough for you
>to
>allocate resources to?
>
>I am certain that you are aware of the facts about the bombing that have
>been
>ignored by the mainstream media Joe, but here is a very short synopsis.
>
>The Oklahoma City bombing is in at least the top three most horrendous
>government cover-ups in the last 10 years or so. The government had prior
>knowledge of the bombing from their informant Carol Howe. There were no
>BATF
>agents in the building at the time of the bombing, (two clerical workers)
>one
>agent told Bruce Shaw, who was looking for his wife, that "...they'd
>been tipped by their pagers not to come to work that day."
>
>The government said a 4,800 pound (decreased to 4,000 pounds at McVeigh's
>trial) ANFO truck bomb was solely responsible for the damage to the Murrah
>building. But several explosive and other experts have stated that an
>amateur
>concocted fertilizer bomb detonated at a 15/20 foot standoff from the
>building could never have inflicted anywhere near the degree of damage the
>government says it did. Explosives inside caused most of the damage. Many
>eyewitnesses said that they heard and/or felt two explosions about 7
>seconds
>apart.
>
> Dr. Frederic Whitehurst, formerly in charge of the FBI Crime laboratory
>for
>about 10 years, went public and said that certain agents working in the
>laboratory had been manipulating forensic tests for years in favor of the
>prosecution.
>
> This is a very small sample of the information that remains unreported by
>the fourth branch of government, the mainstream media. Researchers such as
>Devvy Kidd (www.devvy.com) Hoppy Heidelberg, Charles Key, Pat Briley,
>Michele
>Marie Moore, David Hoffman, Pat Shannan ("Media Bypass" magazine) and many
>others have managed to expose much of the government lies and deception in
>this incident on shoestring budgets.
>
>You publish dozens of in depth articles about Waco, Kosovo, Vince Foster
>the
>myriad of Clinton scandals, Elian , a whopping 357 hits for the Y2K
>nonevent
>(I was also concerned about Y2K, but come on Joe, you massively over-hyped
>that situation) and yet you deem the Oklahoma City bombing unworthy of some
>time and resources in order to publish a few articles.
>So your readers remain ignorant about the web of lies and deceit spun by
>the
>government about this event.
>
>
> Joe;
>You cite much good work that has been done on this story. I agree. Would
>you
>have us plough the same ground? Or should we focus our efforts on reporting
>no one else is doing? We have chosen the latter.
>
>
>Gavin;
>You have ploughed some of the same ground on Waco and the dozens of
>'Clintongates." How much time and money does it take Joe to telephone
>Hoppy
>Heidelberg or Pat Briley? Or to send a reporter to Oklahoma to conduct
>some interviews for a few days?
>
>Am I to believe that you are incapable of 'ploughing' any new ground in the
>Oklahoma City bombing case? How about a few links to websites that are
>getting people as close to the truth as possible about the bombing such as
>"The New American" magazine or Devvy Kidd's
>website? As the saying goes Joe, the silence is deafening.
>
>Apart from ignoring virtually all relevant facts about the Oklahoma
>bombing,
>you do a very good job informing people about the appalling endemic
>corruption in our government. But that is the problem. The fact that you do
>such a thorough job of reporting all of the government's scandals in the
>last
>few years but miss one of the biggest raises a serious question mark. Thank
>you. Gavin Phillips.
>
>
>
>
>I e-mailed my reply to him twice and he has chosen not to reply. As far as
>I
>am concerned there is no excuse for Joe Farah's continued silence about the
>Oklahoma City bombing.
>
>Joe Farah's good friend Chris Ruddy and Newsmax.com also have a news
>blackout
>regarding reporting anything of worth about the bombing. In fact, Ruddy's
>site is even worse. The only reference I found when searching the site was
>an
>excerpt from the County Grand Juries final report which has been completely
>
><A HREF="http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1998/12/31/54513">Click
>here</A>
>
>discredited by several longtime researchers of the case. The County Grand
>Jury basically agreed with the government, a total whitewash.
>
>I do not know why, but the Oklahoma bombing is a taboo subject for Joe
>Farah
>and Chris Ruddy. They purposely avoid reporting the enormous amount of
>prima
>facie evidence that exists proving that the official version of events
>about
>the bombing are completely erroneous.
>
>As far as I'm concerned, there are no "sacred cows" in my pursuit of the
>truth in this incident or any other. I try to remain as objective as
>possible
>and onstantly reevaluate information and obtain other peoples opinions so
>that I can remain honest.
>
>In the Oklahoma bombing 169 people were blown to pieces, 19 of which were
>kids. Over 500 more were injured. Thousands of other peoples lives were
>devastated. The government/mainstream media has lied through their teeth
>about this incident. It is just as atrocious a cover-up as Waco and yet two
>of the Internet's most celebrated journalists say nothing about it.
>
>What would you think if they remained silent about Waco? Thanks. Gavin
>Phillips.
>
>For a brief one article overview about the bombing
> <A
>HREF="http://www.thewinds.org/arc_features/government/okc10-97.html">Click
> here</A>
>
>For several good articles
><A HREF="http://thenewamerican.com/focus/okc/index.htm">Click here</A>
>
>Read David Hoffman's book, "The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics
>Of
>Terror", online <A
>HREF="http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt.htm">Here</A>
>
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