-------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> <FONT COLOR="#000099">eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! </FONT><A HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/2/_/1406/_/974549484/"><B>Click Here!</B></A> ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com Fri, 17 Nov 2000 Lee Markland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Microsoft conspiracy to elect a president It is so obvious that is blatant. MSNBC has been the leader in covering the election campaign and the elections. They are also so blatantly and patently pro Bush, that one has to be blind not to notice it. Now MSBC stands for Microsoft NBC, and wasn't it the Clinton Gore administration that took Microsoft to court for predatory and monopolistic practises. Show me who signs the paycheck and I'll tell you what opinions you hold or loyalty you have. In the case of MSNBC the answer is obvious, especially since MicroSoft (Bill Gates) name is in front of NBC. Military absentee ballot fraud in Leon County Watching live proceedings from Leon County in the count of absentee ballots. At least one ballot was challenged because, although military and supposedly overseas, it was mailed from within the U.S. ostensibly AFTER the election (of course it was for Bush ;) Florida law requires that the ballots have an overseas or APO or FPO post mark. This ballot was mailed from within the U.S. And oh yes, since it was live and cast aspersions on the Bush vote, CSPAN immediately cut off coverage after that observation and objection by a Democratic observor. How many more like that? Dole on Election Bob Dole, a paragon of the ruling elite, the privileged class claims a Pro Gore Bias. Laugh my ass off. I've been glued to the TV for the last week, especially NBC and Fox and if there is any bias at all, it is all in favor of George Bush. From Chris Matthews, to Brian Williams. Larry King, Crossfire and Dan Rather. All have conspired to obfuscate and cover up the exercise of force and fraud on the part of Dubya and his mafia. Repeat after me. Politicians are liars and hypocrites. Bush and Gore are politicians. Bush and Gore liars and hypocrites And neither the major or minor premise are false. George Bush is a hypocrite. He told us that he trusted the people. He signed legislation that gave priority over to hand counted ballots in Texas, and he has stated to the public, through his reps', that he doesn't trust the hand count, and he has tried to stop a hand recount because he knows that it will prove that he did not win Florida. He didn't win the popular vote, nor did he win the Florida vote and it's 27 electoral votes. Get Real, stop rationalizing. And no - I am not a Gore advocate, I shudder that a relgious right winger like Lieberman become vice president, and I shudder that a religious right winger like Bush (at least publicly, considering his involvment in abortion, his alcoholism and his alleged use of cocaine) become President. Either way, we the people lose, but I am sore tired of this ideological bullshit, this misinformation, this rationalization this twisting of facts and reality. The media is four square behind Bush, because the media pundits are in the 6 figure income range and will personally benefit from his tax break for the wealthy program. Bush will screw his constitutency, just like his "read my lips, no new taxes" father did. Reagan, Nixon and Bush Sr, all drove up interest rates, the cost of living, and unemployment, and any "tax breaks" given, were to the truly wealthy, the folks who make 6 figures, and they all shifted the burden to the middle class, those who make less than 6 figures. (I will be glad to diss Gore and Lieberman, but at present it is not them that is trying to steal the election away from the will of the people). (I personally, give a choice would rather have Bush CHENEY than Gore LIEBERMAN (Lieberman makes me violently ill, being a self pronounced religious right winger, a fundamentalist which is what an Orthodox Jew is and has to be). Anyone who is so stupid and feckless as to believe a politician (left or right) shouldn't be allowed to cast a ballot, politicians are by definition liars and obfuscators. This election is a scam, and the right wing is hypocritical because they yammer about their children and family values, yet squander their childrens posterity, financially and environmentally, for short term benefits. I personally hope that Bush wins, because a Bush victory will benefit me financially, and I could care less about the social issues, because they don't affect me personally. A Bush presidency means a rise in the cost of living, hence a rise in interest rates and hence a greater return on my investments and my annual COLA adjustment on my retirement income. And being astute, understanding money and not emotionally involved in the "social issues" which grabs the stupid right wing by their gonads, I have restructured my finances to get me completely out of debt (and I mean five figures worth of debt) by April l. It is not a good time to be in debt, especially if one has a loan with a variable interest rate. I am 61 years old and have a good memory, and remember what Nixon, Reagan And George Sr did to the pocketbook of the working middle class and the economy. (I was also once an avid right winger, voted for Goldwater and contributed $300 to Reagans campaign, only to subsequently discover that the real Ronald Reagan was a statist, liberal, stupid and a closet communist). I call the right, the gonad faction, short sighted, hormonal driven, stupid and easily propagandized. I of course have unsavory opinions of the left as well, but they are not the authors of this piece of rationalization. I hope that Bush wins. A Bush victory is my best financial interest, and I am too old to worry about posterity or what kind of world my children will live in, they will have to make the best of it and adjust, just as I did, just as all of you did, as your parents stupidly squandered themselves and their posterity, whether it was on the beach of Normandy, or by voting for Nixon or Kennedy, or Truman or Dewey. I know that the right wing is feckless, short sighted, stupid and fearful - in a word disgusting critters. Matched only in their gullibility by the "far sighted" liberals who waste their energy worrying about the future. What is Right and what is left is defined for us, not by us and ultimately the purpose is to provide a constant stream of brainwashed, stupid, unthinking drones that will serve the hive. Drones that will instinctively start swarming angrily, when the hive is "attacked". It is all hormones, chemicals, brainwashing (enculturation) and narrow, short sighted self interest. The drones of America deserve what they get, be it a Bush, Gore, Nader or Buchanan. In the meanwhile if the American Patriots Network, or the liberal left had any intelligence at all, they would pay attention to what people do, not what they say. Reagan, Nixon, Bush betrayed their constituency, Carter, Clinton betrayed their constitutency - but when it comes to matters of international trade and finance they all acted congruently as though they had a single mind. Ideologues are idiots. And crap like Bob Dole's piece is disinformation and untrue bullshit. Americans are so stupid, gullible, hormonal, short sighted, dumb and feckless that they don't deserve even an honest and good government. Lee ***** Votescam Fri, 17 Nov 2000 Dear Mr. Sterling, I'm a Klinton-hater, but I'm trying to be objective about this Votescam thing. From what I can see there was substantial fraud from both the Republicans and Democrats. Even though I am a republican-leaning guy it is difficult for me to defend Bush, even though I want to. To defend the Bush crime family makes me like all those feminists who defended Klinton even though he is a Certified-A#1 rapist. I mean, with all the CIA connections, plus Jeb, plus the "'92 payback", let's face it. The Bushes had the ability to control the Florida election outcome, so why not do it? On the other hand, Gore should have had the power of the highest office in the land behind him, and a pretty powerful political family behind him, too. Though, come to think of it, losing Tennesse doesn't show that much power. Truth is, Gore dissed Klinton and I think that hurt him. He needed that crook (Klinton) to help him fix a few more votes than Bush did. I'm not sure Klinton wasn't in Bush's court, really. They were buddies in Mena...and accoring to Skolnick, Bush and Klinton even snorted cocaine together. If Gore is squeaky-clean on Votescam then he should go after Bush. If not, shut the fuck up and don't fuck with the CIA Nazis. Nuf Sed, New Breed ***** Hi Robert, I did notice one of the messages I received from you talked about some voters being "struck from voter lists because they were mistakenly identified as ex-felons." I find this very odd, and here's why. Today, we did some work for some people in Chula Vista. They told me they have a relative in Florida who was hired to go to the federal prison and drive some of the prisoners to a special place, where they voted, and then drove them back. I didn't ask for any further details about it, but, when I read the article you sent, the two stories seem to be conflicting extremes. Were felons being denied voting privileges, or were they being accommodated? Or, are both stories true, depending on where it took place? Here's another thing I heard on the radio today, while driving to a job. I didn't catch the name of the person being accused, but a radio talk show host said that a woman in Florida, who is apparently in charge of some of the recounting, has been accused of manipulating many of the ballots, and counting them in favor of Al Gore. According to the report, there are five people who say they personally witnessed her doing this, and have signed official affidavits to that effect. If this is the case, then this saga will not be over anytime soon. Funny, this story hasn't made the news - at least not that I've heard thus far. There is no way hand counting ballots is either safe, fair or accurate. All it takes is for someone, with either agenda, to manipulate a ballot, purposely miscount, or even unintentionally make a mistake. There is a greater chance of mistakes in a hand count, than in a butterfly ballot, in my opinion, especially when the ballots are not designed to be hand counted in the first place, and are said to be easily messed up while handling. I am also very suspicious of all these ballots that keep showing up all of a sudden. I heard a couple days ago, that another box had just been found. It was in a room someplace, apparently forgotten about, and hadn't been counted. I find this difficult to swallow. Here it is, over a week since the election, and we are finding boxes of ballots that were just left in rooms and forgotten? Are people THAT stupid, careless, or inept at their jobs, or is something up here? For all we know, that box of ballots might have been a throw away box. People may have made mistakes, asked for a new ballot, and the old ballots were thrown in there, only to be retrieved now, and counted. The box in question was said to have only around twenty-some ballots in it, but in this recount, it might only take that many votes to tip the scale. Also, how do we know where these ballots came from? Anyone who has access to unused ballots, could have punched some ballots and placed them in this unguarded room. Who's to say? It seems no one is questioning the validity of these ballots. And, from what I've heard, they were in favor of Gore. Only thing is, if this was an attempt by a Bush supporter to get rid of some Gore votes, then why were they left in a room, where they might be found later? Why wouldn't they just destroy them - end of story? Too many questions and not enough proof, which is why I don't trust any of this baloney. You know, you could tell people that vote fraud is a common occurrence, but many people would refuse to hear it, saying it would be un- American to think such things about our country. But then this happens, and almost everyone I talk to agrees that there is probably some vote fraud going on here. But, I find a surprising amount of these people who don't care - even when they now admit that it's probably happening!! Unbelievable! Well, that's it for now. Squiggy ***** Frank Altomonte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rob, I'm really disappointed in your biased approach toward this election fiasco. Are you a leader or a follower? Both sides stink in this affair. The 'story' you are following is more like the path you're being led down. Has anyone come forward with evidence other that specious claims about 19,000 double punched ballots and 26,000 this and that? You doubt Democrats could organize in 3 Florida counties and circulate enough disinfo to disrupt the votes? They are just as big and capable as the Republicans. You really underestimate them. You accept these stories at face value because the media is passing it on to you? How about investigating it first and verifying the story for us. That's what we can expect from you. Someone who will get to the truth. That's journalism. But it's pretty hard when you take sides for a 'story'. Let the mainstream media take that story. I want the story behind thestory; namely, is it really true? I think Jon has the right idea. It's all such a joke. Let's expose both sides. Frank http://www.nomorefakenews.com By Jon Rappoport THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16. For some reason known only to the gods, today I've been flooded with analyses about the election which favor one side or the other. What a surprise THAT is. No, listen...some of these columns have been quite clever, even cast as fables, a form I enjoy myself after din-din with a little snifter, the Tasmanian '07, if you would, Joseph. ADD: But if one-zillionth of the energy that has gone into defending the Gore or the Bush would be re-directed into proclaiming that BOTH of these shysters are pawn criminals on the chessboard of power...then we might have something. ADD: I understand, though. It's very hard to watch a football game and not root for one side or the other. If it isn't the home-town mania that grabs you, it's the underdog status, the old dog thang, or the uniforms, or the favorable-looking point spread, or...whatever. My solution to this rule of the universe THAT WE MUST EACH PICK A SIDE is to always root for the team that is winning. ADD: At every moment of the game, I'm for who's ahead, so I'm always happy. And in politics, and especially in presidential elections, I recommend cultivating this strategy if you can. It's modern Zen, Jack, get used to it. America loves a winner. So if it looks like Gore is going to get over in Florida today, my man is the Alster. And if tomorrow Bush and the entire CIA are reprinting the ballots in a garage in South Miami with the help of the Cuban expatriate navy, I dig George. ADD: I want the votes to be recounted in every bathroom and whore house in Florida. I want the votes of the rich and the poor to be counted six times because they already have been. And that's important too. ADD: Right now I'm rooting for the Yankees in the World Series and the Lakers and Rams and I think I've got something going. A trifecta whipass. ADD: I want votes cast by all the people in all the cemeteries in Florida to be counted by God and mailed in from overseas ships. ADD: I want Jeb Bush to haul his own personal one million votes in great gunny sacks down to the Miami-Dade counting houses. I want Charles Dickens to supervise the state-wide recount, in which children of former vote-counters will be sitting at the tables carrying on the hologram of Bleak House. ADD: I want Dan Marino and Mercury Morris and all the other great Dolphins of the past to jet into town and vote. Now. A thousand times each. Each man with his own customized vote-card manufacturing machine. I want Jim Collier, big Jim, the author of Votescam, the book that drove everybody crazy in Florida, Jim who is sitting in the sky over Miami tonight laughing his ass off, I want Jim to come on down and cast a ceremonial gold-plated vote for Janet Reno and her army of robots. ADD: I want precinct workers to count all the votes cast by Palm trees and platinum-crust ladies in their vampire furs in their mansions. I want them to count the parking meters and the swans with hernias and the ghosts of plantation owners and the men of Columbus and the backup singers. Put that number down. ADD: I want them to count all the hopeless Cadillacs on valium aimlessly drifting down Collins Avenue. And the clowns and dwarves and elephants and tigers and acrobats and tent peggers. Throw them in. And Ratso from Midnight Cowboy spilling his final guts out in the new bright day of Florida, bring him back for an encore. ADD: The real Fountain of Youth is to vote and keep on voting. Bring in a horse with a cigar and I'll make him president. I'll coronate a mule with a long perm and a guitar and send him to the UN as our next ambassador. I'll recount the recount and add each successive count to the last until the proud state of Florida, home of the orange and the long sleep, casts one billion votes for the next president of the United States. ADD: And if that isn't enough to raise the adrenaline level of the man in the street and the girl of our dreams, if that isn't enough to raise a cardboard sky to the rafters and bring a brackish foul smell of victory down to the front of the stage where the footlights outline the eager faces, then we'll all start throwing eggs and take out the accordion and dance on our tails and set the long table and carve up the White House and feed it to the mice. If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist
