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Blessings, Tsadowq,
I indeed am interested in the Greek ELS that you have, because there are NO
equivalents in Greek to some of the letters in the Hebrew. The Classical
Greek script carries no exact equivalent for vav, tzade and kof. I checked
my equivalents chart that I got in Israel, and they also concur with this
assessment. So, if someone were to assign exact numerical equivalents,
letter for letter, there would have to be some type of relaxing of the
alphabets to come to an agreement on the assigning of numeric value. Of
course all historical and exegetical aspects are harmonized throughout Old
and New Testament.
I do have Drosnin's book, and do agree that he stretches the use of the
Biblical numerical values way out of proportion.
I would be happy to carry on this discussion further, off CTRL.
Blessings, again,
Dr. Deborah
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Subject: [CTRL] Bible codes
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>
> Hello everyone,
>
> In a message dated 11/19/2000 12:53:58 PM
> Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> << The Bible Codes Program I have is by Bibletech Corporation
> of Israel. Also, to my knowledge there is no "codes" program to
> the New Testament.>>
>
> Well, I guess it depends on what type of code you are looking
> for. I know for a fact that there are currently ELS and gematria
> programs available for Old and New Testaments. Gaining info
> from these programs requires dedication, as each chapter must
> be made into individual text files which then must be further
> "edited" (search tags, etc.) so that the program's algorhythms
> will search correctly.
>
> In a message dated 11/19/2000 12:53:58 PM
> Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> <<Aleisha keeps making some kind of reference to the
> codes of the New Testament, and there isn't one available
> to my knowledge.>>
>
> The same numeric code for both the Old
> and New Testaments. ELS may surely
> be found in the New Testament as well.
>
> In a message dated 11/19/2000 12:53:58 PM
> Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> <<The Greek language of the New Testament cannot be
> equalized to the Hebrew in the Old Testament. The only
> way it can be compared is through numbers; each letter
> is equivalent to a number. That's how it comes up with
> 6-6-6 for a name.>>
>
> I am not sure what you mean by "equalized." The Old
> and New Testaments are certainly "equalized" in my
> own paradigm through use of biblical, exegetical,
> historical, and theological disciplines. I personally
> use the mathematical phenomenas found within
> the Bible to show people that numerically, the Old
> and New Testament are the same book.
>
> Lastly, as far as ELS goes...
>
> My own experience shows that the Bible does in
> fact possess certain ELS "prophecies." But, again
> we make note of the fact that these "prophecies"
> always seem to come to our attention AFTER
> the fact.
>
> Take a look at Drosnin's Bible Code book. I believe
> that this book was written in the same fashion as
> was Richard Preston's "Hot Zone."
>
> Drosnin's false prophecies were popularized only to
> be shot down statistically. Because of Drosnin, many
> people truly believe that there is NO Bible code.
>
> The same may be said of Preston's drivel and
> how it adversely affected the work of Dr. Len
> Horowitz.
>
> As far as Aleisha's code, well....It sounds alot
> so far like Drosnin's book. Many "I told you so's"
> after the fact. Drosnin nor Aleisha has offered a
> single example of where their "code" may be
> observed PRIOR to the event taking place.
>
> And this is, to me, as it should be. I do not believe
> that ELS can prophecy the future. I believe that it
> will only be used to show what has taken place.
>
> ELS, or ANY Bible code will never reveal something that
> is not manifestly written in the Word Itself; this I say, after
> many years of experience in this vein of numerical prophecy.
>
> This would have to also include temura, notarikon,
> and many other forms of permutations.
>
> So, Dr. Deb, if you would like, email me privately
> on this matter of Bible codes. I would like to know
> if you have discovered the name of the "man" whose
> number is 666.
>
> Tsadowq
>
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