-Caveat Lector- http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a202be51d69.htm SUE GUNZBURGER'S SON WORKED FOR DICK GEPHARDT! After finding the Sue Gunzburger for Congress website on the Liberty1.com website I did a little digging. I did a domain registrant reverse look-up and found that her son, Ron Gunzburger, owned the Liberty1.com website and found the others that he owned. He also operates a website called Politics1.com and in his bio on that site, he reveals that he used to be an assistant for, gulp, Dick Gephardt! Here is the exact text: Ron Gunzburger is a political journalist, businessman, lawyer, and campaign communications consultant. Moving into the realm of New Media, he created and launched the Politics1 web site in late 1997. L4M, a DC company, acquired Politics1 in April 2000 -- and Ron also joined their management team as Vice President of Creative Operations. In that capacity with L4M, he continues to publish Politics1 and is also Editor-in-Chief of the new HillZoo.com site. During his twelve years working as a trial attorney before changing careers, Ron served as an Assisant Public Defender, an Assistant Attorney General of Florida and as a partner in a respected national law firm of Eckert Seamans. In 1998, the South Florida Business Journal honored Ron and 39 others with its prestigious "40 Under 40 Award" for achieving career excellence before age 40. Before entering law school in the mid-1980s, Ron served successively as a legislative assistant for Congressman Dick Gephardt (D-MO) and later for Congressman Clay Shaw (R-FL). He began his political consulting career when his mother Sue Gunzburger first ran for political office in 1982 (she won that race -- and won five more elections since then). Specializing in direct mail and message development, Ron has since worked as a professional campaign consultant in over 80 campaigns ranging from municipal races through Congressional campaigns (with a success rate around 75%). His innovative and often humorous campaign ads have been featured on the Today Show, CNN Headline News and in numerous print articles. Once, in an apparent brief fit of lunacy, Ron actually "crossed the line" and ran for public office -- losing a South Florida race in 1994 at age 30 for Broward County Court Judge (149,000 votes - 45%). Originally from New England, Ron currently divides his time between his work in Washington, DC, and his home in South Florida. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a202be51d69.htm SUE GUNZBURGER'S SON WORKED FOR DICK GEPHARDT! Politics/Elections Breaking News News Keywords: GUNZBURGER Source: Politics1 Website Published: 11-25-2000 Author: Ron Gunzburger Posted on 11/25/2000 13:15:17 PST by lowteksh End XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SAT NOV 25, 2000 13:51:21 ET XXXXX TRANSCRIPTS FROM BROWARD RECOUNT SHOW HUNT FOR GORE VOTES As Broward County elections officials pressed to finish their review of disputed presidential ballots, transcripts of the canvassing board recount sessions show member Suzanne Gunzburger, a Democrat, blatantly hunting for more Gore votes! MORE Gunzburger: I Can See The Light - If You Hold It Just The Right Way JUDGE LEE: 5A 11 is a slight dimple on the spot. I have to try to remember these. Judge Rosenberg. JUDGE ROSENBERG: Cannot be ascertained with reasonable certainty. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I disagree on this one because it's pushed more than a slight and there is light visible in the bottom. I've read some of the opinions that says when there is light visible that it is a punch for a candidate. JUDGE LEE: I don't see it. JUDGE ROSENBERG: I don't see any light visible. MR LICHTMAN (Democratic Attorney): Hold it up. I can see it from here. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Turn it around. JUDGE LEE: You're right. You can see it. All right. I agree with the Commissioner, 5A 11 is a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1390 - 1391) Gunzburger Changes Her Own Liberal Standards From Daylight To Dents JUDGE LEE: 29C 3. JUDGE ROSENBERG: No clear intent. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: No. Wait. Let me look. The other votes are Democratic and I'm looking, there is a dent on the No. 3, and I would say it's a Gore. JUDGE LEE: I agree with Judge Rosenberg. It remains an under vote. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1432) Gunzburger Caught Mishandling Ballots - Twisting And Bending Ballots Until The Light Shines Through JUDGE LEE: Number three. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I see a clear vote for Gore. It's like a garage door. MR CARROLL (Republican Attorney): I ask you not to bend the ballot, please. GOVERNOR: Don't bend the ballot. MR. POZZOVLI (sic) (Republican Attorney): You may not bend the ballot. JUDGE LEE: I agree that's a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1516) Gunzburger Is Seeing So Much Light, She's Seeing Spots (However, She's The Only One Seeing It) JUDGE LEE: Moving on, moving on to 14J. There is only one disputed ballot, and it is number one. MS. ANGULO: You mean 15J? JUDGE LEE: No 14J. That was just 13. JUDGE ROSENBERG: This is 14J dash one. No reasonable certainty on that ballot. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I believe I can see light on three sides, and it's a clear vote for Gore. JUDGE LEE: I Agree with judge Rosenberg. That's an undervote. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1504) Gunzburger: Some Other Votes Are Democratic - Must Be A Gore Vote! JUDGE LEE: 10A 1, no reasonable certainty. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I haven't looked. JUDGE LEE: I'm just stating my opinion, I'm sorry. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: The other races are Democratic. There is an indentation on that and I would vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1398 - 1399) Gunzburger Defines Voter Intent Based On If They Voted For Another Democratic Candidate JUDGE LEE: Precinct 5D. 5D only has one, and I believe it is 5D 1. JUDGE ROSENBERG: No intent. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: On this one, I believe there is a discernible intent based on the following reasons: On 21, there was a Democratic vote; on 41, there was another attempt to vote for congress on 41, and it didn't get through, so that I believe this is a vote for Gore. JUDGE LEE: I agree with the Commissioner, 5D 1 is a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1436) When Everyone Else Agrees There's No Reasonable Certainty, Gunzburger Still Calls It For Gore JUDGE LEE: Moving on to 21A, there is only one dispute. It's No. 4. I believe no reasonable certainty. JUDGE ROSENBERG: No reasonable certainty. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Well, it's pushed on Gore, but I don't think I'm going to have the votes on that, but I'm going to say it is a Gore vote, based on the rest of the ballot. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1405) Even With A Clear Overvote - Recognized By The Other Two Members Of The Board - Gunzburger Still Calls It For Gore JUDGE LEE: Moving to Precinct 5H. One disputed ballot. It's ballot number 10. I don't what that's - - That's an overvote, clearly. That's an overvote. JUDGE ROSENBERG: Punched two numbers, three and eleven, in the presidential race. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Gore. JUDGE LEE: No change to Precinct 5H. (Note: Canvassing Board made a determination that if two punches were present, and one of the punches was in a spot not occupied by a candidate (spot 1, or spots 12 and on), the vote would count for the candidate. If the second punch was in a spot occupied by another candidate (spot 2-11), it would be classified as an overvote.) (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1493) Gunzburger Is Even Trying To Rationalize Bush Votes Into Gore Votes JUDGE LEE: 17D, there is only one ballot disputed. It's 17D 2. JUDGE ROSENBERG: No intent. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: They voted only in three races for congress and for Nelson, and I believe there is an intent to also vote, because in the bottom of that is a punch for Gore. JUDGE ROSENBERG: Gore? JUDGE LEE: It's really a punch for Bush. JUDGE ROSENBERG: If it's for anybody, it's Bush. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: You're right. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1438) Again, Gunzburger Attempts To Interpret Voter Intent Where Voter Intent Is Simply Not Known JUDGE LEE: G5 JUDGE ROSENBERG: (No Comment) COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I see a line on the bottom that's been punched out. I think it's a vote for Gore, based on the fact that the rest of the card is, also. 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