-Caveat Lector-
Yeah. Religious intolerance--right. Now let me see, what is the religious
"tolerance" record of these poor victimized Protestants? I believe George
Dubya Bush--a God fearing Prostestant (How do I know? Why, I've heard him
say so ad nauseum!!)--has IN THIS CAMPAIGN called Wicca, which is a religion
officially acknowledged and sanctioned within the United States and its
military (they even have Wiccan chaplains) to be an "abomination" that
should be "eradicated."
Those dear Protestants under their wonderful first head, Henry VIII,
continued the Inquisitional practices of the Catholic Church (which they
professed to abhore) by using "witchcraft" as a bandaid charge for rounding
up perceived political enemies and burning them at the stake. The German
Lutheran Church encouraged the incarceration and destruction of the Jews in
Nazi Germany. So did the Catholic Church, but the Catholic Church has
publically apologized and atoned for this stance, whereas the Lutheran
Church silently ignores their own connivance in the Holocaust. It was
PROTESTANTS in New England who, having loftily pronounced their own
victimization in England, merrily proceeded to imprison, torture and execute
all suspected dissidents to its own religious mandates. Check any history on
the Puritans' treatment of Quakers, Anglicans, and Catholics. And
perceived political agitators, of course (preserving the practices of Dear
Olde England which they had spat upon when they left)--just think of the
religious tolerance exhibited by that pious and benevolent Protestant, Rev.
Cotton Mather! Yeah--call them a witch and then torture them for the good of
their soul!!! Also consult the Puritan treatment and murder of Native
Americans under the pretext that native American religion was "Devil
worship." Of course this is what they still say about Wicca--the more things
change, the more they remain the same.
Let's not leave out the Christian fundamentalists (Prostestants all!) in
this country who, although a small minority, have worked to seize control of
the Republican Party and to attempt to dictate BY LAW the behavior of
Americans according to their own narrow, zealous ideas of what is "godly,"
which includes belligerently unrestrained human reproduction but obviously
does not include respect or preservation for the planet they expect those
children to live on. The Pope just controls the Church--the Fundies are
working hard to seize control of the biggest secular government in the
world.
It's about time that Protestants learned to stopped their judgemental
condemnations of gay people, Jewish people, pagans, Buddhists, and anyone
else whose spirituality is individual and real. The mote in their own eye is
pretty damned obvious, don'tcha think?--and needs all of their attention.
The Protestant Church in general can only benefit from a healthy dose of
"religious discrimination" directed against itself, since it's apparently
unable to learn what's "wrong" with dishing it out, except by being a target
of it.
Jenny Decker
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Subject: [CTRL] Infallible Sectarianism
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Infallible Sectarianism
>
> "There is no mistake so great as that of being always right." � Samuel
> Butler (1835-1902): Notebooks.
> Professor Arthur Noble
>
> The Pope's ecumenical dupes got a rude shock on September 5 when his
> self-styled 'infallible Holiness', in an official document called Dominus
> Iesus, questioned the validity of Protestant Churches and instructed his
> bishops not to use the term 'sister churches' with reference to them. The
> Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has now arrogantly
> pronounced that henceforth non-Roman-Catholics are to be designated as
> "ecclesial communities" with "defects". It declares that churches that
lack
> a "valid Episcopate [bishops] and the genuine and integral substance of
the
> Eucharistic mystery are not churches in the proper sense"; and a Vatican
> letter to bishops, released the same week, calls for Protestants to be
> "evangelised".
>
> The American Crosswalk News site summed it up in the headline:
"Protestants
> are not our equals, says the Vatican." It was on a par with Hitler's
> comments about the Jews.
>
> The chief ingredient of this latest outrageous pronouncement by the Roman
> impostor is nothing short of blatant sectarianism � a predictable
complement
> to the flagrant racism of his beatification of Pius IX. Once again, the
> congenital religious intolerance behind the mask of the Church of Rome's
> smiling ecumenism has been exposed: her doctrinal fascism renders her
> hypocritically guilty of the very accusation that she is so fond of
> levelling against those who refuse to bow the knee to her theological
> drivel.
>
> George Carey, the spiritual leader of the world's 70 million Anglicans and
> hitherto a loud and pathetic parrot of the Pope, has expressed his
"dismay".
> No wonder: he failed to take heed of the warning that Rome does not
change,
> and is now suddenly confronted with the reality that the term 'separated
> brethren' was merely a ruse and the original designation of 'heretics' is
> now official. Carey has learned of his error the hard way. He has reacted
by
> saying that the worldwide Anglican Communion "does not for one moment
accept
> that its orders of ministry and Eucharist are deficient in any way", but
> "believes itself to be a part of the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic
> Church of Christ."
>
> Protestant leaders in Germany have also been rudely awakened. Manfred
Kock,
> chairman of the Council of the Evangelical Church of Germany, told ZDF
> television: "The declaration suggests that the Catholic and the Protestant
> Churches are not on equal terms with each other." These leaders, be it
> noted, are the dupes who on October 31, 1999, signed the Joint Declaration
> on the Doctrine of Justification between the Lutheran World Federation and
> the Roman Catholic Church, believing it to be the reconciliatory seal of
30
> years of so-called 'dialogue' between the two Churches.
>
> Irony of ironies! The Vatican's boot-licking World Council of Churches
> itself is worried that the ecumenical relationships of the past 100 years
> may now be "lost" or "hindered" by what its professing 'theologian' Tom
Best
> calls "language which precludes further discussion of the issues"; and
even
> John Wilkins, editor of the Roman Catholic newspaper The Tablet, has
> described the declaration as "enormously negative".
>
> Valdo Benecchi, President of the Methodist Evangelical Churches of Italy
and
> an on-the-spot connoisseur of the Pope's machinations in that country, was
> quick to recognise the Vatican's latest confidence trick. Almost echoing
the
> warning of last October by the 150 German Academics who opposed the
> LWF-Vatican Declaration, he said: "Salvation through Christ is not
deposited
> in one religion only. This puts only the Catholic Church at the centre,
but
> especially the Catholic hierarchy."
>
> The Southern Baptist Convention, the largest U.S. Protestant denomination,
> has also recognised the contrivance. Jerry Rankin, President of its
> International Mission Board, protested: "Salvation comes by God's grace
> through faith in Jesus Christ and Christ alone � not through any
> institutional church body, be it Baptist, Catholic, or otherwise. [�]
That's
> why we have always sent missionaries, even to 'Catholic' countries,
because
> people come to salvation only through personal faith in Jesus Christ. That
> is the message of the Christian gospel according to the Scriptures, and
that
> is the message shared worldwide by our missionaries."
>
> Popery, despite her modernist garb, remains unchanged. The arrogance of
this
> latest pronouncement is astounding. It describes all churches since the
> Protestant Reformation as not being "churches in the proper sense", while
in
> reality it is the Church of Rome that is not a church at all, but a
colossal
> political and financial organisation. Adam Smith, in his famous study The
> Wealth of Nations, calls it "the most formidable combination that ever was
> formed against the authority and security of civil government as well as
> against the liberty, reason and happiness of mankind."
>
> Then we have the preposterous claim that Protestant Churches lack a "valid
> Episcopate [bishops]", whereas in reality it is the Pope himself who
falsely
> poses as the 'Bishop of Rome' and successor to Peter � an office which
> Christ neither instituted or intended. In every country where the
seditious
> Papal system succeeded in gaining a foothold � and not least in England �
> this was achieved through the setting up of Rome's own invalid episcopates
> in contravention of civil law.
>
> As a contributor to our Guest Book recently put it: "As a free Protestant
in
> the free U.S.A., I will not allow this bum to tell me what to do." Amen,
> brother! � and as free Protestants in this free United Kingdom, in which
the
> Pope of Rome "hath no jurisdiction", neither will we!
>
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